i for 1 are on the out campaigh…the sooner or better in my eyes the ( eec ) eu was to trade …and no more …wawaw
Good thread !
Put one of those fancy vote things at the top .
I know you can make it , i cant .
Btw im out . i could cope with Brussels failed politicians ( mandleson , kinnock , patten etc ) telling me what to do as EU Commissioners .
I could cope with an organisation never getting its accounts audited .
Im chilled about having so many pointless layers of government ( local council , area council , regional authority , house of commons AND lords , EU parliament , EU Commission , EU President etc )
But the amount of miserable ex Soviets blathering away in russian who now live here gets my skin crawling .
If we need immigration please take people from commonwealth who speak english and respect our way of life e.g west indian , kiwi , indian , south african , zimbabwean etc etc… Even aussies !!.
There will be steam coming out of Carryfast s computer when he gets going on this
boredwivdrivin:
Good thread !Put one of those fancy vote things at the top .
I know you can make it , i cant .
Btw im out . i could cope with Brussels failed politicians ( mandleson , kinnock , patten etc ) telling me what to do as EU Commissioners .
I could cope with an organisation never getting its accounts audited .
Im chilled about having so many pointless layers of government ( local council , area council , regional authority , house of commons AND lords , EU parliament , EU Commission , EU President
But the amount of miserable ex Soviets blathering away in russian who now live here gets my skin crawling .
If we need immigration please take people from commonwealth who speak english and respect our way of life e.g west indian , kiwi , indian , south african , zimbabwean etc etc… Even aussies !!.
number 3…the eu is corrupt
kr79:
There will be steam coming out of Carryfast s computer when he gets going on this
aaaaaa quality…its all good fun… 
Stay in, but back to what we voted for in the 70’s, a Free Trade area and not a federal state like we have now.
We need to go back to making our own laws and not being ruled by some faceless unelected minority!
OUTTTTTTT 
Martin:
Stay in, but back to what we voted for in the 70’s, a Free Trade area and not a federal state like we have now.
We need to go back to making our own laws and not being ruled by some faceless unelected minority!
wont happen unless we pull out…i never voted as i was way to young …we let 2 many countries in that hadnt got a pot to ■■■■ in…agree about we need go back to making i own laws ect…reet all av a good day time to crack on from sweden germany bound …wawaw
Im on the fence as I havent yet weighed up all the pros and cons. Less interference from folk not in touch with our society is worth considering.
To save time my decision will ultimately be deceided by whoever makes the longest post on this thread…
Dipper_Dave:
Im on the fence as I havent yet weighed up all the pros and cons. Less interference from folk not in touch with our society is worth considering.To save time my decision will ultimately be deceided by whoever makes the longest post on this thread…
Look out for one by Carryfast then Dave 
pete smith:
Dipper_Dave:
Im on the fence as I havent yet weighed up all the pros and cons. Less interference from folk not in touch with our society is worth considering.To save time my decision will ultimately be deceided by whoever makes the longest post on this thread…
Look out for one by Carryfast then Dave
I didnt think politics was his cup of tea… 
Maybe its best if I just do what our untrustworthy round peppa pig primeminister (allegedly) wishes, after all I voted for the bugger.
You were wrong voting for dave and his smarmy workshy pals .
Dont be wrong a second time !!
Its funny how the main drive engine behind EE countries membership was the GB. You let to many countries hahaha who are YOU to say who to be let in or left out of a union of number states? Some say Britain will suffer massive economic losses, some speculate UK is split, by some Scotland will leave to enter EU, some say everything will be fine, even better.
Continental EU is sick and tired of the British BS, do as you want and stop blaming everyone else. Start deporting Italians, Germans and Spanish from London if you have the guts, not only Eastern European migrants, because all of the above are EU citizens.
Nevertheless clear you head and make your mind of what you want, this referendum talk and re negotiations of EU principles is beyond stupid.
Even your PM Cameron when asked: say what are you demand from EU? He is like :I’m not saying/writing my demands coz they might be leaked to the press 
. How the hell to deal with people like David Cameron. You want something but wont say officially in writing what it is.
The Europeans are increasingly exasperated with the British negotiating tactics and their refusal to come clean on what Downing Street wants. “It’s absurd,” said one official.
Another senior source said: “To have negotiations, we need to have a starting point.
“To kickstart the political process, we need some trigger from the UK side. The best way is to get a paper which says that’s what we want to discuss. The future of this process will depend on whether it is triggered by the UK. We need to have a paper. To have a negotiation, you need to know that the negotiations are about. You need a proposal. You can’t play a guessing game.”
OUT ! , and lock all the doors…
OUT OUT OUT
We are go, but these are the people who will benefit from it most.
My parents generation had the first vote and my Mum still says that she only knew of one person who voted yes for it!
We are going to see an extremely well funded, both monetary and politically, campaign to convince us to stay in from the people who have the most to gain from it. The same happened right at the end of the Scottish Referendum, they sent all the big guns up North spouting their false promises and lies (I mean Gordon Brown was one of them, would you believe a word from the mans mouth?) and it all came back to bite them on the arse.
People are ■■■■■■ off with the political class and want a change, fed up of not being listened to.
It is funny how hugely successful countries like Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg manage to get along just fine without being controlled from Brussels, I am sure we could, it is a big world out there, in fact most of it was under our wing at one time, so there is plenty of trade opportunities outside of a dying Europe.
So make sure you actually go out and vote this time rather than lie in your bunks bemoaning your lot, let’s start the road to taking our country back, even if we are a few quid a week worse off (though I do not believe that will happen) at least we will have more of a say on our children’s future!!!
Stay in, but I want no more politic integration and ideally repatriate some powers already yielded, though can’t really see that happening to any great degree unfortunately.
Dolph:
Its funny how the main drive engine behind EE countries membership was the GB. You let to many countries hahaha who are YOU to say who to be let in or left out of a union of number states? Some say Britain will suffer massive economic losses, some speculate UK is split, by some Scotland will leave to enter EU, some say everything will be fine, even better.
Continental EU is sick and tired of the British BS, do as you want and stop blaming everyone else. Start deporting Italians, Germans and Spanish from London if you have the guts, not only Eastern European migrants, because all of the above are EU citizens.
Nevertheless clear you head and make your mind of what you want, this referendum talk and re negotiations of EU principles is beyond stupid.
Even your PM Cameron when asked: say what are you demand from EU? He is like :I’m not saying/writing my demands coz they might be leaked to the pressThe Europeans are increasingly exasperated with the British negotiating tactics and their refusal to come clean on what Downing Street wants. “It’s absurd,” said one official.
Another senior source said: “To have negotiations, we need to have a starting point.
“To kickstart the political process, we need some trigger from the UK side. The best way is to get a paper which says that’s what we want to discuss. The future of this process will depend on whether it is triggered by the UK. We need to have a paper. To have a negotiation, you need to know that the negotiations are about. You need a proposal. You can’t play a guessing game.”
I think you’re making the mistake of thinking that the out side of the argument is actually interested in what Cameron does or any of his bs ‘renegotiations’.In which case it is more a case of we never should have joined it being that the whole basis of our membership was/is an illegal transfer of national sovereignty to a Federal government structure.
As for Cameron he can’t answer the question as to what his demands are because in reality he doesn’t have any demands.He is just another lying snivelling Federalist like Heath and Thatcher who is using stalling tactics in the hope that the out side will just give up.On that note I’d doubt if he will even call any so called ‘referendum’ if it looks remotely like he’ll lose it.While UKIP has fallen into the trap of going along with the sham when it should be concentrating on the legality ( illegality ) of our membership from day 1.
As for the SNP they are just a bunch of Socialists masquerading as Nationalists for their own ends.The contradiction between pro EU and anti UK Union being part of that.
OUT…too much of our taxes get wasted on Europe laws made by Europe that affect to many ex mp’s on gravy train …OUT
Chainsaw, you are very mistaken to give countries like Norway and the others as example. Yes they are fine, but they have to comply with EU rules in order to trade with the union. All principles like free movement of people and capital are mandatory for them as well and they have no say in EU policy. If UK is out of EU in order to trade has to oblige with the EU principles and will not be able to shape its policy.
The main goal of reducing EU migrants in UK will not be achieved by leaving the union.