Jimmy McNulty:
Just had a little look on indeed for class 1 work in Rugby. Of the first 8 jobs advertised there were 4 full time, permanent vacancies for tanker work, night trunking on containers, supermarket work for sainsburys and container work on days.
Thats the first 4 of 8 out of 301 jobs. Your talking out your ■■■■ fella
They don’t exist Jimmy. Out of that lot will be the agency lead-ons, the ones that turn into Hermes or the jolly green giant ones, the trunks that are multi-drops … I’ve spent months going through them and the lies and deceit are legion. Believing them is why I stopped answering the agency calls.
switchlogic:
Yeah being ill is such a fun thing to boast about…took me a long time to admit to and talk about how ill I’ve been, it shouldn’t have at my age but alas sometimes it does. I only mentioned it to illustrate how daft Carryfasts comment about Hoses was.
As for being one of the many idiots that make job what it is now…let’s weigh that up, you’re 65, doing crap agency work for a crap agency for crap companies, a job you clearly despise and chances are you’ve spent at least 80% of your ‘career’ doing s*+t jobs you hate for s<>t companies. Me, well I’m over 20 years younger in a job where I work less than half a year, with NO other work to speak of and NO strenuous load handling in a job I enjoy for a company I enjoy working for thats full time and as secure as any job is these days having never done a job with strenuous other work in a career I’ve loved 95% of and I’M the idiot? You’re nothing if not a bit dim old boy, keep it up its good for laugh.
The chances of you ever getting to my age given your mindset is something I wouldn’t bet on.
Did I tell you about the time I unstrapped a curtain sider with two broken arms? Used my teeth. Or about the time I pulled a pallet on a pump truck with a broken leg along the hard shoulder of the M6 to its destination when I broke down as it was a timed delivery? Whelps today don’t know what work is, do they. My boss was ever so impressed and said I was the best idiot, sorry driver, he’d ever had … You couldn’t make up some of the c**p now being written here!
You really want to go back to the Victorian era and risk your life for a job? I was never a lover of the unions, but now they’ve just about gone, I can see why they were necessary if only to protect ourselves from the stupid surrounding us. Having said that, I hope you never have to hack it out here at the bottom end which is where most of us are.
Jimmy McNulty:
Just had a little look on indeed for class 1 work in Rugby. Of the first 8 jobs advertised there were 4 full time, permanent vacancies for tanker work, night trunking on containers, supermarket work for sainsburys and container work on days.
Thats the first 4 of 8 out of 301 jobs. Your talking out your ■■■■ fella
It doesn’t follow they’re going to offer him those jobs just for his trouble of asking - there could be 100 other applicants if the positions seem decent, and if there aren’t any other applicants then there’s probably something wrong with the job.
switchlogic:
Yeah being ill is such a fun thing to boast about…took me a long time to admit to and talk about how ill I’ve been, it shouldn’t have at my age but alas sometimes it does. I only mentioned it to illustrate how daft Carryfasts comment about Hoses was.
As for being one of the many idiots that make job what it is now…let’s weigh that up, you’re 65, doing crap agency work for a crap agency for crap companies, a job you clearly despise and chances are you’ve spent at least 80% of your ‘career’ doing s*+t jobs you hate for s<>t companies. Me, well I’m over 20 years younger in a job where I work less than half a year, with NO other work to speak of and NO strenuous load handling in a job I enjoy for a company I enjoy working for thats full time and as secure as any job is these days having never done a job with strenuous other work in a career I’ve loved 95% of and I’M the idiot? You’re nothing if not a bit dim old boy, keep it up its good for laugh.
The chances of you ever getting to my age given your mindset is something I wouldn’t bet on.
Did I tell you about the time I unstrapped a curtain sider with two broken arms? Used my teeth. Or about the time I pulled a pallet on a pump truck with a broken leg along the hard shoulder of the M6 to its destination when I broke down as it was a timed delivery? Whelps today don’t know what work is, do they. My boss was ever so impressed and said I was the best idiot, sorry driver, he’d ever had … You couldn’t make up some of the c**p now being written here!
You really want to go back to the Victorian era and risk your life for a job? I was never a lover of the unions, but now they’ve just about gone, I can see why they were necessary if only to protect ourselves from the stupid surrounding us. Having said that, I hope you never have to hack it out here at the bottom end which is where most of us are.
Reading this again it doesn’t seem to relate to anything you quoted, are you struggling a bit mentally in old age?
Somehow you seen under the illusion that my illness is a result of work, it isn’t, totally unrelated to the job. You also seem to have missed where I quite plainly wrote I didn’t realize how ill I was before my last hospital admission. So not entirely sure where you get I’m risking my life for a job, esp considering its hardly a deadly condition and most of the time I’m perfectly well. But carry on calling me stupid if it makes you feel better, despite you being the one struggling with comprehension.
Grandpa:
You really want to go back to the Victorian era and risk your life for a job?
Says the man scrabbling round struggling for work doing crap jobs for crap companies with no job security moaning that he can’t hack it at the tail end of his career. Ironic
the nodding donkey:
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It’s a pity your lot are further to commute than Newport, otherwise I might be tempted to pop round. I fancy getting back on the milk, but the only depot around here isn’t hiring.
Where are you? It’s a very good job but way way out in the sticks for most people. We do have drivers travel from across South Wales though. Even for me fairly local the drive to work is nearly an hour.
switchlogic:
Yeah being ill is such a fun thing to boast about…took me a long time to admit to and talk about how ill I’ve been, it shouldn’t have at my age but alas sometimes it does. I only mentioned it to illustrate how daft Carryfasts comment about Hoses was.
As for being one of the many idiots that make job what it is now…let’s weigh that up, you’re 65, doing crap agency work for a crap agency for crap companies, a job you clearly despise and chances are you’ve spent at least 80% of your ‘career’ doing s*+t jobs you hate for s<>t companies. Me, well I’m over 20 years younger in a job where I work less than half a year, with NO other work to speak of and NO strenuous load handling in a job I enjoy for a company I enjoy working for thats full time and as secure as any job is these days having never done a job with strenuous other work in a career I’ve loved 95% of and I’M the idiot? You’re nothing if not a bit dim old boy, keep it up its good for laugh.
The chances of you ever getting to my age given your mindset is something I wouldn’t bet on.
Did I tell you about the time I unstrapped a curtain sider with two broken arms? Used my teeth. Or about the time I pulled a pallet on a pump truck with a broken leg along the hard shoulder of the M6 to its destination when I broke down as it was a timed delivery? Whelps today don’t know what work is, do they. My boss was ever so impressed and said I was the best idiot, sorry driver, he’d ever had … You couldn’t make up some of the c**p now being written here!
You really want to go back to the Victorian era and risk your life for a job? I was never a lover of the unions, but now they’ve just about gone, I can see why they were necessary if only to protect ourselves from the stupid surrounding us. Having said that, I hope you never have to hack it out here at the bottom end which is where most of us are.
Reading this again it doesn’t seem to relate to anything you quoted, are you struggling a bit mentally in old age?
Somehow you seen under the illusion that my illness is a result of work, it isn’t, totally unrelated to the job. You also seem to have missed where I quite plainly wrote I didn’t realize how ill I was before my last hospital admission. So not entirely sure where you get I’m risking my life for a job, esp considering its hardly a deadly condition and most of the time I’m perfectly well. But carry on calling me stupid if it makes you feel better, despite you being the one struggling with comprehension.
I was in the professions while you were still doing your HGV test Switchlogic. It’s why I don’t have to kill myself and go the way you will. Anyone who carries on with the symptoms you described can’t be all there. You knew how ill you were and tried to boast about how you forced yourself to carry on, the rest of the post was sarcasm that was way beyond you. Mental illness? No, but I have professionally worked with them and as for comprehension, people like me taught people like you.
Do some of you believe everything you’re told? I mean, if someone says it’s an easy local two drop trunk, do you stop and wonder why it’s advertised as long shift hours? When someone tells you Royal Mail is so desperate for drivers they’re having to use small general haulage companies because no one wants the job, do you also believe them? When an agency tell you no handball for a well-known supermarket chain (involving un/loading yourself with a pump truck) do you believe them? It took me four months to plough through the BS and understand what’s going on.
I get Rugby indeed vacancies every day in my email. Go back in a month’s time and the same vacancies will still be there. I can spot the same agencies advertising them and I know who they’re recruiting for. The same three or four dead end companies as everyone else. All those adverts you see for Rugby on Indeed and Total Jobs either don’t exist, or are all touting for ‘victims’ for the same companies.
Grandpa:
You really want to go back to the Victorian era and risk your life for a job?
Says the man scrabbling round struggling for work doing crap jobs for crap companies with no job security moaning that he can’t hack it at the tail end of his career. Ironic
No switchlogic. I have enough intelligence to stop when I realized what it was all about. I will now move back into the professions and it’s you that will end up complaining in time because unfortunately, I suspect there’s nothing else you can do. But good luck with it anyway and I hope you survive to my age.
Grandpa:
I was in the professions while you were still doing your HGV test Switchlogic. It’s why I don’t have to kill myself and go the way you will. Anyone who carries on with the symptoms you described can’t be all there. You knew how ill you were and tried to boast about how you forced yourself to carry on, the rest of the post was sarcasm that was way beyond you. Mental illness? No, but I have professionally worked with them and as for comprehension, people like me taught people like you.
FFS give it a rest with this boast nonsense, was nothing of the sort, I was illustrating how ridiculously easy my job is. Like anyone would boast about being ill. As for carrying on with my illness…You’ve no idea what’s wrong with me have you, what are your expecting me to do book a trip to Switzerland? As for the sarcasm yup I got that, and as you’ll see I chose to ignore it as it was rather lame, some of the posters on here could teach you about real sarcasm should you ask. Have fun back in ‘the professions’ (how pompous does that sound), shame you ■■■■■■ so much of your life up the wall in a job you hate.
Grandpa:
it’s you that will end up complaining in time because unfortunately, I suspect there’s nothing else you can do.
I doubt it, I bet you were just as much a miserable old sod at 40 as you are now. Met too many chaps like you, run a mile is usually the best advice.
switchlogic:
There’s so much easy work out there but you seem like you can’t be bothered looking and expect an agency to drop the perfect job in your lap
Yep tankers absolutely no possibility of having to lug heavy hoses around in that job.( Yes I’ve also done tanker work as part of my council driver job luckily only a 4 wheeler in my case ).Yours must be a hose less type delivery system.
If you think dragging a few hoses around is hard work then you are either incredibly lazy or genuinely disabled and shouldn’t be working anyway.
And opening curtains 4 times a day? A bloody child could do it.
How do some of you even get into the cab?
the nodding donkey:
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It’s a pity your lot are further to commute than Newport, otherwise I might be tempted to pop round. I fancy getting back on the milk, but the only depot around here isn’t hiring.
Where are you? It’s a very good job but way way out in the sticks for most people. We do have drivers travel from across South Wales though. Even for me fairly local the drive to work is nearly an hour.
Swansea . Newport is an hour down the motorway, and if push comes to shove, I could go to work by train. Haverfordwest is too far to give up my present job, which is a pretty decent number, but being general haulage with tauts, I am looking at getting back on the milk, as that’s what I know. I’ve stuck another iron in the fire, for what looks like a decent opportunity local, but well have to wait what comes out of that.
Any readers of this site, employers especially, of this thread alone would already have ruled a few posters out of consideration immediately, CV’s reveal far more than people might realise even if the right CV can open doors that would otherwise be firmly closed, age immaterial.
If you had a decent job and your boss asked you if you knew of anyone good looking for a job, similarly there’s a few would be on the ‘never in your life’ list.
There’s nothing wrong with being naïve if you don’t understand the changing nature of work in the transport industry, but let’s explain it.
The jobs you see advertised on job boards are nearly 100% agencies. Its window shopping with ‘wonderful opportunities’ and ‘earn £1K a week plus’ with Ltd pay rates stated as normal to boost the fantasies and designed to promise you anything you want. They’re from a host of agencies all competing for the same three or four dead end jobs in the area. It’s why they first ask you what kind of job is it you’re looking for and whatever you wanted, that’s what the job becomes. You get the surprise later on.
For instance, who in their right minds would take that job in the op? No one and why it was advertised as a two drop trunk. Fancy containers? The job doesn’t exist, ‘but we have got …’ Aldi’s? ‘We promise you no handball.’ As people begin to cotton on to the lies they leave and the agencies then complain they can’t get drivers. Next time you walk past a driving agency look through the window, they’re like graveyards. Why wouldn’t anyone with other skills not want to get away from all that and that’s what’s happening. The industry is hemorrhaging drivers and can’t understand why.
The bad news is that it’s now filtering through to the once secure jobs. It’s now not unusual to go through three or four jobs a year as the employer begins to pile on the work and people move to other jobs and after a while find the same thing is happening there. There is no job security in a ‘gig economy’, it’s become a competitive industry based on getting the maximum workload from the driver whilst at the same time introducing H&S to make sure the company doesn’t get a compensation claim for the stress and injuries resulting from it.
If the tens of thousands who now have licences suddenly same back into the industry, do you think the jobs would also increase? No, you’d just have more drivers chasing the same dead on jobs that already no one else will do. It’s not boasting to say we tens of thousands with a licence and other skills have seen what the logistics industry has turned into and don’t want any more of it and above all we’re fortunate to have a choice. When an industry has to rely on foreign workers, recruit ex-prisoners and has to lie about the job to get anyone to do it, you know there’s something seriously wrong.
Juddian:
Any readers of this site, employers especially, of this thread alone would already have ruled a few posters out of consideration immediately, CV’s reveal far more than people might realise even if the right CV can open doors that would otherwise be firmly closed, age immaterial.
If you had a decent job and your boss asked you if you knew of anyone good looking for a job, similarly there’s a few would be on the ‘never in your life’ list.
In my past life I used to help with resume construction and design in another profession. What logistics employers now look for is not necessarily skills and experience, but anyone who will do the anything required role which they demand. It’s not unusual to see ads that say, 'six months experience required, will take new passes.’ Can you work long hours with a maximum amount of physical labour? You’ve got the job.
the nodding donkey:
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It’s a pity your lot are further to commute than Newport, otherwise I might be tempted to pop round. I fancy getting back on the milk, but the only depot around here isn’t hiring.
Where are you? It’s a very good job but way way out in the sticks for most people. We do have drivers travel from across South Wales though. Even for me fairly local the drive to work is nearly an hour.
Swansea . Newport is an hour down the motorway, and if push comes to shove, I could go to work by train. Haverfordwest is too far to give up my present job, which is a pretty decent number, but being general haulage with tauts, I am looking at getting back on the milk, as that’s what I know. I’ve stuck another iron in the fire, for what looks like a decent opportunity local, but well have to wait what comes out of that.
Its not quite as far as Haverfordwest, you can do the yard in 20 mins or so from Carmarthen and it wouldn’t be much more than an hour from Swansea. It’s worth considering its a good job and when you can get the hours in, it’s a little quiet at moment, the money is good. Esp if you did 6 & 2
Juddian:
Any readers of this site, employers especially, of this thread alone would already have ruled a few posters out of consideration immediately, CV’s reveal far more than people might realise even if the right CV can open doors that would otherwise be firmly closed, age immaterial.
If you had a decent job and your boss asked you if you knew of anyone good looking for a job, similarly there’s a few would be on the ‘never in your life’ list.
Thanks to my former YouTube activities Im something of a Marmite character already with employers! Well ones who’ve heard of me that is (if not I storm into their office yelling DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM!)
Grandpa:
There’s nothing wrong with being naïve if you don’t understand the changing nature of work in the transport industry, but let’s explain it.
The jobs you see advertised on job boards are nearly 100% agencies. Its window shopping with ‘wonderful opportunities’ and ‘earn £1K a week plus’ with Ltd pay rates stated as normal to boost the fantasies and designed to promise you anything you want. They’re from a host of agencies all competing for the same three or four dead end jobs in the area. It’s why they first ask you what kind of job is it you’re looking for and whatever you wanted, that’s what the job becomes. You get the surprise later on.
For instance, who in their right minds would take that job in the op? No one and why it was advertised as a two drop trunk. Fancy containers? The job doesn’t exist, ‘but we have got …’ Aldi’s? ‘We promise you no handball.’ As people begin to cotton on to the lies they leave and the agencies then complain they can’t get drivers. Next time you walk past a driving agency look through the window, they’re like graveyards. Why wouldn’t anyone with other skills not want to get away from all that and that’s what’s happening. The industry is hemorrhaging drivers and can’t understand why.
The bad news is that it’s now filtering through to the once secure jobs. It’s now not unusual to go through three or four jobs a year as the employer begins to pile on the work and people move to other jobs and after a while find the same thing is happening there. There is no job security in a ‘gig economy’, it’s become a competitive industry based on getting the maximum workload from the driver whilst at the same time introducing H&S to make sure the company doesn’t get a compensation claim for the stress and injuries resulting from it.
If the tens of thousands who now have licences suddenly same back into the industry, do you think the jobs would also increase? No, you’d just have more drivers chasing the same dead on jobs that already no one else will do. It’s not boasting to say we tens of thousands with a licence and other skills have seen what the logistics industry has turned into and don’t want any more of it and above all we’re fortunate to have a choice. When an industry has to rely on foreign workers, recruit ex-prisoners and has to lie about the job to get anyone to do it, you know there’s something seriously wrong.
no offence you hate the sector just leave it. You can complain thats just the way it is. I have worked on containers so dont know what its like elsewhere. I went into the job with the aim of only paying my bills. Have you tried being a driving instructor.
. Newport is an hour down the motorway, and if push comes to shove, I could go to work by train. Haverfordwest is too far to give up my present job, which is a pretty decent number, but being general haulage with tauts, I am looking at getting back on the milk, as that’s what I know. I’ve stuck another iron in the fire, for what looks like a decent opportunity local, but well have to wait what comes out of that.
