Warning to Jeff 
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DON’T watch this!!
You will have a coronary with all this truth and common sense…AND he’s a Tory ffs . 
It will tip you over the edge. 
If this guy was my local MP, I wouldn’t gaf which party he represented, he’d get my vote for sure.
youtu.be/kfXpiYLesF8?si=DbhilFP4OLxP1Mf2
Even if they were doctors and solicitors,it’s a pretty ■■■■■■ thing to do to poach talented people from other poorer countries.These countries have paid the cost of training these doctors only for them to be poached by countries like the UK and Germany.The poorer countries suffer a brain drain because of this,while there are English young people cant get a place at the universities,the whole thing stinks
Sploom:
Even if they were doctors and solicitors,it’s a pretty [zb] thing to do to poach talented people from other poorer countries.These countries have paid the cost of training these doctors only for them to be poached by countries like the UK and Germany.The poorer countries suffer a brain drain because of this,while there are English young people cant get a place at the universities,the whole thing stinks
Why are you even bothered…Do you not get it? 
They AINT ■■■■ Doctors or solicitors, it’s a positive spin the lefties are putting on it to mask the proven fact that many of them are criminals, low lives and past and potential terrorists.
tmcassett:
chrisdalott:
Has anyone got any actual evidence and proof that illegal immigrants are claiming benefits?Maybe I sound naive and gullible like you accuse Jeff a but I’d prefer to think of myself of very skeptical about these dubious claims.
Can you prove they are not?
I think the fact they cross the entire breadth of Europe and then jump in a dinghy risking their lives in the channel even further to come here says alot about what they will get handed to them on a plate here.
So they are supposedly fleeing horror, war and all sorts of other awful things, why not stop in Greece, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Germany, France and so on - last time I checked there wasn’t any sort of war or conflict going on there?
I don’t need to prove that they are not, your the one making the claim the burden of proof is on you
Now go and make a brew with Russel’s teapot and let’s see if we get somewhere
chrisdalott:
tmcassett:
chrisdalott:
Has anyone got any actual evidence and proof that illegal immigrants are claiming benefits?Maybe I sound naive and gullible like you accuse Jeff a but I’d prefer to think of myself of very skeptical about these dubious claims.
Can you prove they are not?
I think the fact they cross the entire breadth of Europe and then jump in a dinghy risking their lives in the channel even further to come here says alot about what they will get handed to them on a plate here.
So they are supposedly fleeing horror, war and all sorts of other awful things, why not stop in Greece, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Germany, France and so on - last time I checked there wasn’t any sort of war or conflict going on there?
I don’t need to prove that they are not, your the one making the claim the burden of proof is on you
Now go and make a brew with Russel’s teapot and let’s see if we get somewhere
Quote from Russel Teapot article
That said, we can give reasons for believing something doesn’t exist. We have no reason to think matter would randomly arrange itself into a teapot.
So, explain then, the origin earth, and of live on Earth… 
At this point in time I feel like a white migrant where I live.
Gravity is considered to be one of the more weaker forces in the Universe…
But consider the broader nature of “Gravity” a moment:
Gravity is EVERYWHERE in the Universe (“Omnipresent”)
Gravity has the power to create or destroy anything in the Universe - given enough time. (“Omnipotent”)
Gravity cannot be seen, and you have to be near a source to see it’s effect. It is not easily “Felt”, but various set-ups are available to either artificially reduce or increase it, such as a hard-bank/climb in an aircraft, or again in an aircraft - the increased OR negative G effect.
We’re simply not built (out of meat, bone, etc.) to travel “To the Heavens” (space travel) where the effects to Gravity are out-of-control compared to on the surface of a planet such as this one we’re on.
As such, we need to transform the Human Physique in some way that permits us as a lifeform to leave this planet, before something happens to this ball we’re currently marooned upon - to prevent Humanity going anywhere.
Currently, the Green Agenda - would have us stuck on Earth FOREVER and therefore must be counter to any hopes and dreams of Mankind going to the Stars, or for the Religious faithful “Ascending to the Heavens”…
“Social Disorder” is the only thing around the world - that prevents Mankind as a whole - from making positive progress in that regard.
The only one who gains from “Zero Heaven Progress” - is Satan of course.
Even if you don’t believe in such things - you need to believe our future as a Human Race is “Reaching for the Stars” rather than “Reaching for our Neighbor’s Throat” all the time. Right?
I wouldn’t have a problem with unfettered immigration IF we were importing Doctors of all disciplines from around the world, rather than people who feel hard-done-by in their old country, rather than actual Talent leaving for a better prospect in their own careers “Spiritually” rather than renumeratively…
I agree with Robbo then: Too many illegals coming here - are NOT what they need and are supposed to be.
The Crime by our own government - is that they continue to permit this travesty of common sense…
the maoster:
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Not true.
Our benefits - actually offend a lot of UK taxpayers who happen to be PAYING for them, whilst finding themselves NOT entitled to them, when they, the taxpayer - fall upon hard times.
Are those people offended by our flag and our culture too?
I suspect no. In which case you are merely playing with semantics.
As opposed to Semitics, which is a whole different ball game.
Most people are actually indifferent to our flag and culture, as they were indifferent to any kind of “National Pride” in the country they once left to get to these shores.
FUND them to be “Anti” our culture though?
Is that what you mean by “Semantics”?
Soros has got a lot to answer - but he’s not the only one.
ALL the globalists - have got a stake in overthrowing the entire world’s nationalistic heritages EVERYWHERE.
“The Devil Makes Work for Idle Hands”.
chrisdalott:
tmcassett:
Can you prove they are not?I think the fact they cross the entire breadth of Europe and then jump in a dinghy risking their lives in the channel even further to come here says alot about what they will get handed to them on a plate here.
So they are supposedly fleeing horror, war and all sorts of other awful things, why not stop in Greece, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Germany, France and so on - last time I checked there wasn’t any sort of war or conflict going on there?
I don’t need to prove that they are not, your the one making the claim the burden of proof is on you
I think my previous post (included here) is all the proof we need.
robroy:
tmcassett:
chrisdalott:
Has anyone got any actual evidence and proof that illegal immigrants are claiming benefits?Maybe I sound naive and gullible like you accuse Jeff a but I’d prefer to think of myself of very skeptical about these dubious claims.
Can you prove they are not?
I think the fact they cross the entire breadth of Europe and then jump in a dinghy risking their lives in the channel even further to come here says alot about what they will get handed to them on a plate here.
So they are supposedly fleeing horror, war and all sorts of other awful things, why not stop in Greece, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Germany, France and so on - last time I checked there wasn’t any sort of war or conflict going on there?
Shhhh you ain’t supposed to say that
You know that we all must stick to the official line,.and accept that they are genuine asylum seekers looking for refuge,.and that most of them are qualified Doctors and Solicitors who can enhance society.
It’s politically incorrect to call them economic migrant scroungers with a high contingent of criminality who contribute actually Jack.sh to our country,.but instead sponge off us whatever tf they can…ie the truth.The young male 'Doctors and Solicitors! in my home city are very often visited by the Police at their luxury hotel,.who have been told to actually cut the blues and twos due to the attention it atttracts from the totally ■■■■■■ off locals…(Heard from VERY good and relevant source btw.)
In comparison the GENUINE refugees from Ukraine in my area, have all integrated and contribute in many ways to the local community…
Incidentally not many, in fact not any, are young fit lads of ‘fighting age’ which is blindingly and blatantly obvious in comparison to the other lot.
Oh yeah I forgot, my bad. 
On the bright side it’s good to have some fully qualified doctors coming over to help us out with the shortfall within the NHS.
The “Doctor Shortfall” in the NHS is on more than one front:
It is very difficult for qualified FOREIGN doctors to get here, as they are being leap-frogged by “No Papers” boat people who pretend to be doctors enough to fill the lists up, which then shuts the door for proper, and legit migrant doctors from pretty much anywhere.
It is also very expensive and difficult for UK citizens to TRAIN to be a Doctor, and has been for many years by this point.
It is a bit like the question “What’s the fastest way to make a Million?”
Answer: “Start with 10 million, and then lose 9 million of it”.
If you are not well-heeled financially - you can forget becoming a Doctor, because no state will pave the way for you, unless and until you are financially independent FIRST.
Same applies to those wanting to be:-
A Writer of Fiction
An Ascending Sports Star
and of course…
A Banker
Starmer calls latest net migration figures ‘shockingly high’
Keir Starmer has described today’s net migration figures, showing it at 745,000 in the year to December 2022 (a figure that has been revised upwards) and 672,000 in the year to June 2023, as “shockingly high”. Echoing language used by Yvette Cooper (see 1.07pm), Starmer said:
That figure is shockingly high. It represents a failure, not just of immigration, but also of asylum and of the economy.
Because within that figure there’s a huge increase in work visas, which shows the government hasn’t done what it needs to do on skills.
Within that number there are a rising number of asylum seekers and disclosure that the hotel bills are going up and up.
Jaysus - 745,000 legals. That is absolutely staggering.
(Just to get some perspective - that’s 745,000 legals and 25,000 illegals)
Just to get some perspective that’s 745000 fully legal potential taxpayers versus 25000 totally illegal interlopers who will probably never contribute.
Or to use the hysteria laden totally out of context language that you liberals prefer; 745000 law abiding citizens with 25000 proven criminals living amongst them.
Yes, I can see why you are getting your ■■■■■■■ in a twist now.
Mayhem in Dublin last night they say a import stuck a knife into kids and a teacher
It kicked off Mayhem hundreds of people went mad and did a lot of damage
This is what the taxpayer is paying for all staff are imports even security
That hotel was probably rented for 5 million a year for 5 years
the maoster:
Just to get some perspective that’s 745000 fully legal potential taxpayers versus 25000 totally illegal interlopers who will probably never contribute.Or to use the hysteria laden totally out of context language that you liberals prefer; 745000 law abiding citizens with 25000 proven criminals living amongst them.
Yes, I can see why you are getting your ■■■■■■■ in a twist now.
Then why not make them legal so they can pay tax? You’ve got 745,000 anyway - what difference does another 25,000 make? It’s a drop in the ocean.
And what about the hundreds of thousands of British people you’re throwing out of work to employ dirt cheap foreign labour in care homes etc?
And what if they don’t find a job or lose a job? That’s more dole money going to hundreds of thousands of migrants. They all want housing and health care too. And their kids want school places.
Nope - I know you like to blame everything on the “liberal” even after the tories have been in power for 13 years but you’re flat wrong as always.
just saw an interesting video about men fleeing war in their home country. watch it and you will see that there are no legal ways for them to do this, so they are bribing guards for fake paperwork or just climbing a fence and swimming across rivers even though 19 bodies have washed up. Two of them want to get to Britain and the USA despite crossing many safe countries on the way there, but they have their reasons. no mention of benefits or coucil houses
what do you think? youtu.be/ANxo0gBM6GM?si=i2Ac6vSqte-wrLis
