Scarab:
What the hell has all this childish bickering got to do with people working in security?
How tediousAlex
So what has anybody learnt from the 27 odd posts that didn’t once have the word security or anywords connected to it either mentioned or referenced in them 
pecjam23:
Scarab:
What the hell has all this childish bickering got to do with people working in security?
How tediousAlex
So what has anybody learnt from the 27 odd posts that didn’t once have the word security or anywords connected to it either mentioned or referenced in them
Yeah, if the book starts with letter A you expect it to be the only letter in it? 
orys:
pecjam23:
Scarab:
What the hell has all this childish bickering got to do with people working in security?
How tediousAlex
So what has anybody learnt from the 27 odd posts that didn’t once have the word security or anywords connected to it either mentioned or referenced in them
Yeah, if the book starts with letter A you expect it to be the only letter in it?
I was just saying that IMPO that this topic seems to of gone ever so slightly off course, that was all orys 
nothing personal againt you mate just my opinion 
. Just watch out for that iceburg 
orys:
Happy Keith:
orys:
‘…Brit … Brits … Brits …’Just a quickie: Like some others, I loathe that derisory and derogatory term - but unlike the majority that ‘wanna be where it’s at’ or consider it wholesomely embraced (it isn’t!), at least I know the correct term to be Briton(s).
I am sorry. I noticed that many of this forum users refer to themself as a Brits, so I did not expected that to be offensive. Should I use “British citizen” or is there another shorther form which is all right?
Hey, it’s me resisting sloppiness & respecting my nation, Orys - don’t fret, matey …many Britons don’t.
Being such is respectfully accurate - but isn’t fashionable. I don’t like ‘Brit’ as it was meant to be derogatory & derisive when it was often spat out with hatred during the 1970’s-80’s etc by Irish Republicans on telly when they had a ‘being upset’ phase. Actually, they had the English at the focus of their ire because it was the English that got most of their murderous terror. (Damned illegitimate migrants that the whole of the British Isles is apparently full of…)
orys , there is no any sense to explain all aspects of the world in one topic.
the fact is - many people like george3 are reading only “the sun” or other “poor” newspapers and they only know - “lost job - imigrant fault because “the sun” says so”.
Bnp will finish the same way as Lepper finished in Poland.
usa, britain, were sold poland and large part of EE in 1945 for russia - does any newspaper said it?
bombed Dresno at the end of 2nd war?
nobody will take winners to the court.
i’m doing my job best i can, got my mortgage to pay, all taxes paid here and all manoey spending here. even holiday i had in truro last week - was nice and nobody were complaining about my english when i paid for caravan, hotels and other things .
the true is - there most of You are just waiting that the employer has to give you, the country has to give you. I think , if you will not do your best, then nobody will give you.
again sorry for spellings, some day maybe i will be able to write like orys or some of you
Happy Keith:
…Briton…
Somehow I missed it from your 1st post… I promise to use that from now onwards… If I’ll forget somewhere, just push me back on track slightly
pejcam, isn’t all that off-topic thing the most fun thing in foruming?
jan_m:
orys , there is no any sense to explain all aspects of the world in one topic.
the fact is - many people like george3 are reading only “the sun” or other “poor” newspapers and they only know - “lost job - imigrant fault because “the sun” says so”.
Actually, I think is more complicated. I think they have this opinion (as is always good to have someone to blame) and The Sun is writing for them what they want to read (that’s why most of “The Sun” is rather on celebrities than on immigrants 
)
Bnp will finish the same way as Lepper finished in Poland.
Let’s hope they will not follow all his steps before that. Remember that Lepper was shining brightly before his fall… BNP is at the start of this path yet…
usa, britain, were sold poland and large part of EE in 1945 for russia - does any newspaper said it?
bombed Dresno at the end of 2nd war?
nobody will take winners to the court.
That was done on that forum 100s of times, let’s not start the history thing again. The smart guys know how it was, the others believe in what they think and won’t change their minds
pecjam23:
george3:
Hotels employing immigrants is down to corporate greed. UK hotel prices are some of the highest in Europe if not the world. Hotels in the UK are making an absolute killing. I’ve stayed in hotels in Spain on blisteringly hot weekends when weekended on the lorries for £15 a night. In the UK that would be nearer £65-150 a night.Maybe so but it keeps me and many others in jobs delivering to these places, they are high so hotels can afford to use our services
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They would still need services regardless of what they charged their customers. If the next government were to put a limit on how much can be claimed on expenses when corporations fill in their tax returns, say £25 a night and £3.75 a day meal allowance, corporations would force down hotel prices or send out less rep’s.
Some of these corporations claim back millions. I read in a newspaper a few months ago the MOD had spent in one year, £700,000,000 on hotel and meal allowances for it’s senior civil servants at the same time the MOD is struggling to supply our troops with the proper aquipment. Some of these fkers are spending £3,000 a night on a room and £900 on a bottle of wine.
orys:
Happy Keith:
…Briton…Somehow I missed it from your 1st post… I promise to use that from now onwards… If I’ll forget somewhere, just push me back on track slightly
Bless you, dude.
Meanwhile, I suppose the thread could illustrate that the hitherto held values of (once world respected?) UK are mourned at the expense of those considered responsible for diluting them (cue the security bods).
Either way, thanks Mr Heath/Bliar/Broon, etc for not respecting the reality that we live at the grass roots with unfathomable herberts to decypher (as well as for giving our money away to foreign nations at £4m per day & for continually treating us like your flippin servants).
jan_m:
orys , there is no any sense to explain all aspects of the world in one topic.
the fact is - many people like george3 are reading only “the sun” or other “poor” newspapers and they only know - “lost job - imigrant fault because “the sun” says so”.
I read half a dozen national newspapers, none of them the Sun.
jan-m:
Bnp will finish the same way as Lepper finished in Poland.
I wouldn’t know about that, not knowing who Lepper is but the BNP are doing a good job a stirring up the establishment anyway. The establishment being the Identical party, Lib/Lab/Con coalition.
I can’t understand how all this anti BNP animosity came about. It’s not as if they intend taking us into illegal wars, throw all our money away and leave us in debt with the world bank for the next 30yrs. What’s the big deal about automatically booting out illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers? Surely that is the law isn’t it?
OK they won’t have none white as members, so what. The Black police officers association won’t have white members, nobody’s kicking off about that.
jan-m:
usa, britain, were sold poland and large part of EE in 1945 for russia - does any newspaper said it?
bombed Dresno at the end of 2nd war?
nobody will take winners to the court.
Very very old
george3:
I wouldn’t know about that, not knowing who Lepper is
Just for information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Lepper
but the BNP are doing a good job a stirring up the establishment anyway. The establishment being the Identical party, Lib/Lab/Con coalition.
May be. But what they have to offer instead?
I can’t understand how all this anti BNP animosity came about. What’s the big deal about automatically booting out illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers? Surely that is the law isn’t it?
OK they won’t have none white as members, so what. The Black policeman’s association won’t have white members, nobody’s kicking off about that.
You certainly have a point here… I think it’s silly that someone is getting here in the trailer, then apply for asylum and after refusal goes to courts, have council flat and everything for free, which many of us (Britons, or other EC members, who are fully legal to be here can dream of). My friend’s neighbour is one of them, and he even tried to work, but he’s not allowed to as he’s not legal to be here. So instead of him working, we have him sitting at home on benefits!!! What’s the whole ideas of giving benefits to illegal immigrants?
Other thing: I was in Wales recently and there was some folk dance team dancing on the square in LL*(very many letters including four L’s in the row)*gogogoch and one of this native Welsh folk girls was black… That’s was weird… From one side, I have nothing against it, it’s great that she wants to integrate, but still… It looked strange… Come on, no matter how hard she would try, she’s black, so she’s not native Welsh (at least in traditional way, as she can be a good Welsh citizen today). And by saying that black man can’t be traditionally Welsh (or Polish or whatever) I do not say that it’s bad! We all differ and it’s nothing wrong with that.
Therefore as for me it would be nothing wrong with that I can’t joing the society of the MacLeod’s family for example and I can’t see nothing wrong with that you can’ join a society of people born in Grabiszynek, the small district of city of WrocÅ‚aw…
jan-m:
usa, britain, were sold poland and large part of EE in 1945 for russia - does any newspaper said it?
bombed Dresno at the end of 2nd war?
nobody will take winners to the court.Very very old
Yet still true
I read half a dozen national newspapers, none of them the Sun.
its a good for you.
throw all our money away and leave us in debt with the world bank for the next 30yrs.
yes you are right , right now all gov’s doing this. and we have nothing to say. do you remamber orwell’s “1984”? but book not the movie.
What’s the big deal about automatically booting out illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers? Surely that is the law isn’t it?
yes you are right too. but lot of people here are just putting all imigrants in to one jar. i’m sure there is some others groups more problematic than poles.
few days ago in grantham “some humans (?)” were tried to burn a guy alive only because he were not speak english.
back to the topic. if the guy (security) has some responsibility he MUST speak english, it should be the same about drivers- especially with ADR goods.
orys:
jan-m:
usa, britain, were sold poland and large part of EE in 1945 for russia - does any newspaper said it?
bombed Dresno at the end of 2nd war?
nobody will take winners to the court.Very very old
Yet still true
I can’t comment on that. I’m not old enough to know anything about the circumstances involved. All I can think of was Russia had turned into a huge military machine and the west didn’t really fancy its chances, so wasn’t going to push it.
I can’t understand how France got a share of Germany though. They surrendered before the Germans even got anywhere near Paris and capitulated instead. They even identified and rounded up French Jews for them to ship off.
orys:
george3:
‘…but the BNP are doing a good job a stirring up the establishment anyway. The establishment being the Identical party, Lib/Lab/Con coalition…’May be. But what have they to offer instead?
‘…What have they to offer?..’ They’ll lie but it’ll effectively be an expensively tastless concoction of Euro-soup whereby we’re all the same (?) but ‘…please, please, can Britain please pay shedloads of pounds (we’ll convince them that Euro’s are better in due course) to become a grey and faceless mass of skint mediocrity…’
jan_m:
do you remamber orwell’s “1984”? but book not the movie.
I remember the movie but have not read the book. As it happens I’m in the market right now for a good book and your comment has chosen one for me. Thanks.
jam-m:
but lot of people here are just putting all imigrants in to one jar.
That’s because there are too many of them and the tied is beginning to turn
jam-m:
i’m sure there is some others groups more problematic than poles.
I don’t belive the criticism is specifically directed at Poles as such, just that Poles has become the common term for immigrants in general. When people talk about Pa-ki’s, they are not complaining specifically about Pakistanis but Muslims, Arabs and Asians in general.
jan-m:
few days ago in grantham “some humans (?)” were tried to burn a guy alive only because he were not speak english.
They proberbly only wanted his money and mobile phone and Ka wasn’t doing it for him.
jin-m:
back to the topic. if the guy (security) has some responsibility he MUST speak english, it should be the same about drivers- especially with ADR goods.
I agree, there’s little point in employing someone who doesn’t speak the local lingo if he’s supposed to communicate with the locals.
george3:
I can’t comment on that. I’m not old enough to know anything about the circumstances involved.
BBC did a really good drama “Stalin behind the closed doors” or something like that. Worth to watch!
att:
If I encounter individuals who cannot speak the English language…I usually treat them with more contempt than a paedo in a childrens playground…I will twist their melon something chronic…Why■■? Because they shouldn`t be here. Simple.
Weird logic. Sure you’re on the right forum?
gurkas re good guys any securty gaurd are usally ignrant waste of space regardless where they come from i have fallen out with scotish ones complaining i,m uthere nicking there work to the best one in brum was a muslim refused to let me out for a drink because it was ramadam ■■? hold on this is england aint it? so i said ok going to chip shop went back at 2 in the morning roaring drunk said now tell that to your god
george3:
I don’t belive the criticism is specifically directed at Poles as such, just that Poles has become the common term for immigrants in general. When people talk about Pa-ki’s, they are not complaining specifically about Pakistanis but Muslims, Arabs and Asians in general.
The BBC are in trouble again, this time it isnt Jezza or Russell Brand
The BBC’s Asian Network has become embroiled in a race row after Sikh listeners accused the flagship digital radio station of being insensitive towards their religion.
The BBC was forced to remove a show from its website after Muslim presenter Adil Ray received threats from Sikhs who said he had denigrated one of their religious symbols.
Members of the Sikh community complained that Mr Ray had been disparaging about whether they really needed to carry kirpan daggers.
During the offending August 6 show, Mr Ray was discussing a Punjabi music concert in Canada where police had refused entry to Sikhs wearing kirpans.
But a number of listeners were upset that Mr Ray appeared to mock Sikhism, a charge that the Birmingham-based Asian Network denies.
The Sikh Media Monitoring Group has written to the BBC requesting a full transcript of the show.
The organisation has accused the Asian Network of being insensitive towards Sikh listeners.