Juddian:
Winseer:
What’s so daft about what I’ve been saying here?
It’s not just you Winseer, its anyone who dares question the narrative.
Ignore the conspiracy theory and playground jibes, analyse their considered arguments and views instead, if you can find any.
It is time Left and Right came together, and realize that we’ve ALL been had by these political incumbents that have been playing us all off against each other with their collective lies and spin for YEARS.
The only solution to all this is to get a collection of entirely new people involved, that have the backing of both sides of politics.
The “Division” shouldn’t be between “Left and Right” but what I said earlier: - Between “Right and WRONG”.
Current “Narratives” that I’ll refute (examples)
(1) “Energy bills are more expensive - because Putin invaded Ukraine”
Not true. The western collective response to the “invasion” - is what has given rather than “caused” an opportunity for Western energy outfits to charge the earth for their “product”, despite the fact the wholesale price of Gas and Oil has fallen back sharply since the “Ukraine Invasion”, and in the case of UK Gas - fallen back to a five year low, below the price it was before the invasion even…
…Yet our Gas price for this month - is at an all time high.
(2) “Donald Trump was a bad president, because he has no experience of politics”
Not true, in fact Trump for a total amateur - has surprised many by even managing to stay alive by this point. There was no downside to Trump’s presidency OTHER than the riot-inducing “reaction against it” - which has forced incumbents to throw the kitchen sink at removing him, with ongoing horrible results… These include the Ukrainian invasion (wouldn’t have happened during a Trump 2nd term) and the disaster evacuation of Afghanistan (wouldn’t have happened with a Trump 2nd term). It was also not Trump’s fault that rioting communist insurgents did what they did, nor the law enforcement agencies turned a blind eye to that.
(3) “Covid wasn’t our own creation”
Not True, but confusing… it was a disease that was made to permit a massive government overreach that has badly damaged both western democracy, and removed Western Citizen’s freedoms as the prime aim OF the lockdown. In fact, Covid was a bigged-up massaging of everyday “Deaths by natural causes” statistics to mask over the fact that the biggest cause of Death in the past three years (not counting “Natural Causes”) is in fact “Mental Breakdown of Society” as a whole. If you’re going to be murdered, it’ll be by someone with “Mental Health Issues” rather than someone “Who’s only done it, because of Guns” - hence why we see the narrative of overwealming news coverage of “Gun Killings”, whilst “Knife Killings” get barely mentioned anymore. If you kill yourself, it’ll be either because YOU have mental health issues, or because some high-up has pushed you to it, perhaps by sacking you which puts your entire family out on the street, now that mortgages are so high and unaffordable. (During the lockdown, even people on benefits could afford their mortgage payments - My, how far we’ve gone downhill in three years eh?)
(4) “Conspiracy Theorists are nothing but Domestic Terrorists” - If that’s true, then we are all that even considers voting for such people, let alone discussing such accusations in public. What is today called a “Conspiracy Theory” is what used to be called “Healthy Debate”. I think this is why TmsCasset above - finds we are on the same page here. Once a “Theory” is accepted as being “Truth” - then it becomes “Fact” - and we can all move onto the next issue up for “Debate”.
(5) “Interest rates are rising - because of the Inflation caused by Ukraine. Raising rates is being done to combat inflation, and it’s working”
Not true. I’d even go as far to say “Is it f–k!!!”
Interest rates are rising - because the Chinese and other Bric nations are buying less of our bonds these days. The “Going Rate Yield” at each regular bond auction held in many western countries, including the UK and USA - decides what the going rate of interest is going to be. The National Bank then shifts the “headline” interest rate to correspond with where bond auctions are actually taking future interest rates.
If the Bank of England has already lost control of rates, which I suspect is the case - then rates will keep on rising, because this thing with the Chinese buying less western bonds - is their sanction against the West for “interfering” in their Trading Partner Russia’s current proxy war with the West. The West can carry on printing money and buying up their OWN bonds (More QE) to try and stem the runaway interest rate - BUT printing money produces MORE inflation, hence the runaway accelerates with only two outcomes possible: Hyper Inflation, and the rise of a 21st Century “Hitler” character (no one in politics today btw) OR we can vote them all out, precipitate a Deflationary Crash, and have a 1930’s style depression instead. People like Trump or Farage or even Marine Lepen - are not going to be the “former” option, but the latter one, I should point out.
My prediction is that this war in Ukraine will go on and on, interest rates will keep on rising, and when enough people have been put on the street by the runaway inflation, which strangely does NOT flow through into wage settlements - they’ll be riots which our armed forces will unite with the PUBLIC with, and our entire establishment will be overthrown, likely the monarchy and parliament with it.
Cromwell had ordinary merchants and farmers on his side during the “First” English Civil War. Cromwell was a Farmer himself, of course… What side would YOU be on, if you were ordered to join up with the army/police to mass-shoot people that a few weeks ago were your freinds and neighbors? On what government’s say-so would you even consider “obeying” such orders to kill out-of-hand people that only a few weeks earlier were merely on the opposite side of politics from you?
There are not enough people in this country to do the government’s bidding, and put down any “Rebellion” by the 99% of the public that stand to lose out from the current establishment’s actions being ongoing much longer…
This week we’ve seen another elected politician - Dominic Raab “ousted” by non-elected permanent deep state civil servants. For the time being, the Left don’t care, because they think anything that brings down the hated Tory government - has a price that’s well worth paying. Sad, but true.
In America, they’ve opted to get rid of “One of Us, One of Them” by Liberal Deep-State controlled Murdoch Media which has seen both Don Lemon of the Left thrown under the bus on the same day as Tucker Carlson of the Right. It is hoped that there will be little “outrage” that way, it seems. The Left won’t be rioting over the removal of Don Lemon, because they’re too busy gloating over the removal of Tucker Carlson, and vice-versa. Good Chess Move there by the Deep State, eh?
Back to topic - the “Jabs” are now held in suspicion by a growing number of the public, perhaps even the majority of the public by this point:
Maybe you had some of the jabs, but you’re not having any more…
Maybe you’ve had all the jabs, and you still feel you’ve “Got to trust the Science” - which is what exactly? “Believing whatever BMA and State tell you”■■? I’m frankly gobsmacked that the Left seem to have supported this TORY lockdown more than Tory voters did, what with their “mask enforcements” and other tosh, that didn’t make a jot of at least positive difference to the public’s lives at large… 
Maybe you wised-up quickly enough to not have ANY of the jabs in the FIRST place…
Maybe you even took a calculated risk, and worked out that taking a 1 in 500 chance of “catching covid and dying” was about the same risk as the 1 in 1000 chance of dying from a botched injection given by an NHS worker who’s not sufficiently medically experienced to give injections, without one-in-a-thousand people just getting a blood clot from accidentally being injected with an air bubble… No “Malice” there - just an ongoing problem with NHS medical staff shortages, that’s all. Most people have been lucky enough to have had mutiple jabs, and the “1 in 1000” chance - hasn’t come up over and over again, resulting in their still remaining alive… others - were not so lucky, but the press has tried to make out that people who’ve died are those who’ve NOT been jabbed at ALL, which is an evil lie of the very worst sort, because there is now growing evidence that the opposite is true, which is what this topic is really all about… “The fact that we, the public - have NOTICED”. 
“The Enemy” folks - are the Far Center Liberals, or if you will the “Hard Centerists” plus of course the “Green Nazis” that would have us all dead so the Planet can prosper without us at all… 
