Can we do it in a Tent?
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They can make rulles -no 45 hours in cab.But they can t make rulles where need taked outside cab.May be drivers go and found girlfriend and sleep together,may be under trees .IN England as well some drivers live in caravan 10 years near Crick.He is from North East .No rulles what drivers or any another people must have or where we must live-life possible from caravan till big house .
It’s strange isn’t it, you can’t legally have a regular weekly rest period in the cab but you could pitch a tent in a cold wet field and have a regular weekly rest in it.
I sense an exciting business opportunity.
[I’m off to check on the cost of a container and some second hand bunkbeds…]
So what would happen if a driver had 44 hours and 59 minutes in the cab? That’s a reduced weekly rest. Is that OK?
Even if the driver actually needed a full regular weekly rest … He’s only fallen short by 1 minute - would anybody care?
I can see where the French etc and now the Germans are coming from but it seems a little silly we can have a 45 in a cold wet field in pouring rain with no requirement for any equipment/bed/sleeping bag/hammock.
tachograph:
It’s strange isn’t it, you can’t legally have a regular weekly rest period in the cab but you could pitch a tent in a cold wet field and have a regular weekly rest in it.
To be honest, I never thought the intention of the people writing the legislation was to prohibit 45 hour breaks being taken in the cab, I just think it was clumsily written, and not double-checked before it came into effect.
Nobody care about drivers working condition or health .All this changes just business ,try support local companies.Yes must make changes to leveling competitions between companies but must start from another side.
So immigrant why have you started a thread on this subject when you started and almost identical thread yesterday?
shep532:
So what would happen if a driver had 44 hours and 59 minutes in the cab? That’s a reduced weekly rest. Is that OK?
Yes because it’s a reduced rest, rules can never work perfectly, but unless you’re going to have a free for all you need some regulations.
shep532:
Even if the driver actually needed a full regular weekly rest … He’s only fallen short by 1 minute - would anybody care?
Probably not for the first week, but what if it’s every week, so they can avoid going back to their base?
shep532:
I can see where the French etc and now the Germans are coming from but it seems a little silly we can have a 45 in a cold wet field in pouring rain with no requirement for any equipment/bed/sleeping bag/hammock.
So if you were told to have a 45 hours rest in a wet field you’d accept that?
And people and businesses will always try and push rules to their limit, but I believe the Belgium’s and French have supposed to be enforcing this for a couple of years and you don’t see loads of tents on the services in those Countries and I’m sure if the authorities in Germany saw loads of tents appear next to truck parks they’d find a local law to stop them.
This law isn’t really being enforced to stop 45 hour rests in cabs as much as to stop foreign registered trucks being parked for days on end or basically having foreign trucks using the Country as a base and pushing the cabotage rules to it’s limits.
It’s done to stop eastern European firms having drivers roaming round Europe for months on end.
Realisticly other than guys working in the music exibition and racing scene which I’d imagine are quite happy to put drivers in a hotel how many need to be away from home more than two weeks.
Personaly life would have to be pretty crap to think a weekly rest in a lorry would be better than at home
i’m going back a long time ,but when i divorced wife number 1 i was on the bones of my ar8e and i lived in my truck for 18 months where ever i was loaded for on the monday i used to go on the fri/sat and take in a local football/rugby match living out of chinese,indian etc and saved enough to put deposit on a house , it was quite good ,i just wonder how they would police such a ruling
scrotumscratcher:
i’m going back a long time ,but when i divorced wife number 1 i was on the bones of my ar8e and i lived in my truck for 18 months where ever i was loaded for on the monday i used to go on the fri/sat and take in a local football/rugby match living out of chinese,indian etc and saved enough to put deposit on a house , it was quite good ,i just wonder how they would police such a ruling
I’ve done the same thing, I spoke to a DVSA officer a while ago about this rule, he did contact his higher management to find out more details on enforcement of the rule, the answer he had back was that there was no plans to enforce it in the uk.
the nodding donkey:
I’m off to check on the cost of a container and some second hand bunkbeds…
Afraid Travelodge beat you to that idea with their Uxbridge hotel, most likely including the second hand beds (feels like it).
But if Eastern Europian stop working who is will do this job??Where this British
drivers???What will be do British drivers at continent if 99 percent from them not clue to change bulb,fuges,tyres.If use services this job will be very very expense
Andrejs:
But if Eastern Europian stop working who is will do this job??Where this British
drivers???What will be do British drivers at continent if 99 percent from them not clue to change bulb,fuges,tyres.If use services this job will be very very expense
I met many British Drivers over the Years,and we were driving more the harsher the Contition. No problem changing Bulbs,tyres or whatever.
Just let them go into it and they will learn it quick.
Immigrant:
Andrejs:
But if Eastern Europian stop working who is will do this job??Where this British
drivers???What will be do British drivers at continent if 99 percent from them not clue to change bulb,fuges,tyres.If use services this job will be very very expenseI met many British Drivers over the Years,and we were driving more the harsher the Contition. No problem changing Bulbs,tyres or whatever.
Just let them go into it and they will learn it quick.
I can just ad -it is not English problem ,it is world problem.because driving in one country more easy.£0-40 years man now like just driving .Old local people it is another side they very very hardworkers,midlle ages -50/50
.If any big company start sent present drivers(with any national) from here to 2-3 week in EU,that most drivers will not agree do this again.Same Eastern Europian -to many drivers after first trip not go again.Simply international driving -not suitable to anyone.Just 3-5 or less drivers from 10 work long time for Europian trampers.
My hovercraft is full of eels…
Get out and go for a walk for 10 minutes. Then you’ve not spent 45 hours in your cab. End of.
Roymondo:
My hovercraft is full of eels…
The obvious question then being what are the EU regs regards fishing quotas for eels,using a hovercraft,as interpreted by ze Germans and translated into Polish. 
Andrejs:
Immigrant:
Andrejs:
But if Eastern Europian stop working who is will do this job??Where this British
drivers???What will be do British drivers at continent if 99 percent from them not clue to change bulb,fuges,tyres.If use services this job will be very very expenseI met many British Drivers over the Years,and we were driving more the harsher the Contition. No problem changing Bulbs,tyres or whatever.
Just let them go into it and they will learn it quick.I can just ad -it is not English problem ,it is world problem.because driving in one country more easy.£0-40 years man now like just driving .Old local people it is another side they very very hardworkers,midlle ages -50/50
.If any big company start sent present drivers(with any national) from here to 2-3 week in EU,that most drivers will not agree do this again.Same Eastern Europian -to many drivers after first trip not go again.Simply international driving -not suitable to anyone.Just 3-5 or less drivers from 10 work long time for Europian trampers.
thank you please.