If there was a driver shortage

I am seeing a lot of 115-120 a day jobs .How long have drivers been taking day rates @ max hours ?

Beetlejuice:
I am seeing a lot of 115-120 a day jobs .How long have drivers been taking day rates @ max hours ?

Mark Thompson’s are £110 a day. Ok if you are on locals, but it soon becomes Scotland/London runs…

eagerbeaver:

Beetlejuice:
I am seeing a lot of 115-120 a day jobs .How long have drivers been taking day rates @ max hours ?

Mark Thompson’s are £110 a day. Ok if you are on locals, but it soon becomes Scotland/London runs…

Dreadful pay that is ,After breaks and deductions why bother at all . I bet they pay for the Cpc and flash curtains though :open_mouth:

Beetlejuice:
I am seeing a lot of 115-120 a day jobs .How long have drivers been taking day rates @ max hours ?

There’s a job up here currently advertised £95 a day.

harrawaffa:

Beetlejuice:
I am seeing a lot of 115-120 a day jobs .How long have drivers been taking day rates @ max hours ?

There’s a job up here currently advertised £95 a day.

:open_mouth:

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eagerbeaver:

Dipper_Dave:
As I see it the only shortage is one of experienced drivers and companies ain’t doing enough to help new recruits gain said experience.

This leads them hobbling down the agency path which is fine to get some experience but risks are high from the get go with those agency recruits being a little over zealous with their experience claims, leading to the enviable catch 22 of having agency experience which isn’t the same as fulltime work experience.

Let’s face it you could be god’s gift to limping but never be anywhere near as good as an average fulltime employee looking for a new job.

Agency Drivers CV:
1998 - 2018= 10 years on the limp…

Next!!!

Think your maths skills need updating Uncle Dave…

Bollox, nothing like a school boy error to spoil a fishing expedition… :wink:

Dipper_Dave:

eagerbeaver:

Dipper_Dave:
As I see it the only shortage is one of experienced drivers and companies ain’t doing enough to help new recruits gain said experience.

This leads them hobbling down the agency path which is fine to get some experience but risks are high from the get go with those agency recruits being a little over zealous with their experience claims, leading to the enviable catch 22 of having agency experience which isn’t the same as fulltime work experience.

Let’s face it you could be god’s gift to limping but never be anywhere near as good as an average fulltime employee looking for a new job.

Agency Drivers CV:
1998 - 2018= 10 years on the limp…

Next!!!

Think your maths skills need updating Uncle Dave…

Bollox, nothing like a school boy error to spoil a fishing expedition… :wink:

It’s not spoilt at all mate. Agency drivers are indeed the barnacle upon the hull of Class 1 driving God’s :wink:

commonrail:
And…as a tramper…you’ll still drag,what an unskilled factory bod,earns all year.

:laughing: you’d be surprised what factory bods earn in their unionised jobs…

maga:

commonrail:
And…as a tramper…you’ll still drag,what an unskilled factory bod,earns all year.

:laughing: you’d be surprised what factory bods earn in their unionised jobs…

JLR are the exception rather than the rule.

My mate works for chromalloy UK and is on £8 an hour.

Dipper_Dave:
Let’s face it you could be god’s gift to limping but never be anywhere near as good as an average fulltime employee looking for a new job.

I know your post was intended to be tongue in cheek Dave, but there really isn’t such a thing as a “typical” agency driver. On my agency, some are newly passed, some are eastern Europeans with varying degrees of competence in the English language and some are like myself, towards the older end of the age spectrum and with no interest in working 48 weeks a year.

I deliver to numerous haulage companies where there is a notice on the notice board telling drivers when they can and cannot take annual leave (November and February aren’t a problem but July or August… forget it) and this does not accord with my philosophy of deciding when I am and am not prepared to work.

Mickey mouse:
Of course the driver shortage is a myth created by training schools and agencies. It’s been going on for years. Until the UK stops letting in thousands upon thousands of Eastern Europeans there will never be a driver shortage.

There always will be someone else, in 60s-70s bus drivers from India came in to fill shortage.

Harry Monk:

Dipper_Dave:
Let’s face it you could be god’s gift to limping but never be anywhere near as good as an average fulltime employee looking for a new job.

I know your post was intended to be tongue in cheek Dave, but there really isn’t such a thing as a “typical” agency driver. On my agency, some are newly passed, some are eastern Europeans with varying degrees of competence in the English language and some are like myself, towards the older end of the age spectrum and with no interest in working 48 weeks a year.

I deliver to numerous haulage companies where there is a notice on the notice board telling drivers when they can and cannot take annual leave (November and February aren’t a problem but July or August… forget it) and this does not accord with my philosophy of deciding when I am and am not prepared to work.

A big variation in competency, indeed.
How many regular drivers would fare well if driving a different truck, often an old ■■■■■■■■■■■■ one that no one else wants, doing a different job with different office, admin, traffic, and workshop systems all the time?

Harry Monk:
I deliver to numerous haulage companies where there is a notice on the notice board telling drivers when they can and cannot take annual leave (November and February aren’t a problem but July or August… forget it)

Yeah I worked for a garden plant grower and we struggled to get time off between March-September and end of November-Christmas.

Most years I just took the whole of January off to leave only a few days for later in the year or a couple of times we could ‘sell’ our holidays for the money (In my pocket not for a Kelsa bar :laughing: ).

truckyboy:
Londontrucker…its often advertised as class 1 drivers wanted £145-£150 a shift for london firms…if you approach the right ones…thats cash in hand…one firm close to me offers a guaranteed take home of £600 for a 5 day week…so all is not gloom my friend…there are some good paying companies around.

Complete and utter pish. Who’s advertising for £145 - £150 cash in hand a shift in London. Nobody.

£600 a week, that cash in hand too is it? If so, what does that tell you? We pay no tax, no NI, no pension. We care about you about as much as you care about us… But, rest assured, we always run legal with vehicles inspected per the legal requirements… ■■■■ off.

If a company has to run cash in hand to get by ‘my friend’ how on earth are they going to get by in the long term? Yet more cash in hand while paying no / little attention to regulations the rest of us have to live by? Yeah probably. ■■■■ off. Again.

This is the very stuff that court cases are made out of, the sooner the likes of you are gone the better.

Anyone paying cash in hand no questions asked is hardly likely to be advertising in the open media, and nor is anyone accepting said cash going to be broadcasting where such deals can be found.

There is similar disbelief about the remaining good jobs out there, again they arn’t advertised (no need to, no one with an ounce of sense leaves) and the drivers working there sensibly keep schtum.

None of the above will be found on indeed or at the jobcentre.

Juddian:
Anyone paying cash in hand no questions asked is hardly likely to be advertising in the open media, and nor is anyone accepting said cash going to be broadcasting where such deals can be found.

There is similar disbelief about the remaining good jobs out there, again they arn’t advertised (no need to, no one with an ounce of sense leaves) and the drivers working there sensibly keep schtum.

None of the above will be found on indeed or at the jobcentre.

The decent jobs as you rightly say Crusty are seldom advertised. At my place the next chap to leave will probably be ***, who is retiring in November.

I’m fairly confident he will be replaced by a ’ recommendation ’ from one of the other long serving drivers :wink:

It IS difficult to get into the better employers, but with some respectful persistance and a handful of manners/effort, inroads can be made.

I am so new to this game and I hate day rate with all my strength. I will say that again…I HATE DAY RATE!

If you get Day Rate, you’ll probably get a Day Cab too - not good if you’re on a 17:00-08:00 shift, and they’ll try and palm it off on you as “Days” because you started before 18:00 hours…

Right-through rate as well of course!

Not good if it’s Friday evening, for sure!

“Triple Whammy of Woe”.

Colin_scottish:

eagerbeaver:

dieseldog999:
i think were looking like a bit of an OOPS!!! scenario in hull tonight… :smiley:
memo…if your gong to spout pish and lie,make sure your consistent… :wink:

Watch this space Brother dog… I’m going for the old, " I did 4 day’s Mon - Thurs to help them out. 3 x 13 and a 12.75 hour early dart Thurs " :grimacing: :wink:

Or the old chestnut of im the most respected driver on the agency books but only do night trunks.

…up the road and back on the A75 at 40 tops eyes glued to the tacho all the way…