If no limit on hours how many a day do you think you company would want compared to you.
I would 12 my company probably 16.
LASHHGV:
If no limit on hours how many a day do you think you company would want compared to you.
I would 12 my company probably 16.
Company( whatever’s legal),planners ,every hour they could( whether legal or not) 24/7,I’m happy enough with 15 hrs but I’d like the option to do 17/18 hrs if need be as its a bind having to park up and wait to be recovered,might as well just drive back to yard,days,I did 7 days a week when working in engineering factory so be quite happy to do it now.
10-12 perd day.50-60 per week.avarage
In an ideal world …
12 hours max from clocking on to clocking off with all hours between those times paid on an agreed hourly rate
12 off resets the above daily limit
Max of 60 hours before a rest of minimum 36 hours must be taken
That might mean a driver could do 6 x 10 hour shifts (60) then 36 off or 5 x 12 (60) before 36 off or 7 x 8 hour shifts (56) before taking 36 off
Driving time limited to a max of 10 hours per shift
Commuting time limited to a max of 1 hour each way but if more then the extra gets added to the 12 hours off
I do not think any driver would be too tired if this was the case
The company im working for at the moment, based on their past would expect/want us to run 24hours a day…
25 + breaks
as much as i would want too work
10ish a day. 40 to 45 a week, no point being the richest man in the graveyard.
ROG:
12 hours max
I’m all for this ^^ i can’t stand going over 12 hours unless i got a night out.
Saaamon:
The company im working for at the moment, based on their past would expect/want us to run 24hours a day…
I take it the interview for the new job went well then Simon?
Edit to add. Just seen your other post Simon. Do you mean your last company, or your new one? If it’s the new one dude be careful what you post here. Some people have no sense of humour, and I’d hate to see you drop yourself in the brown and smelly so soon after starting.
Nothing new about employers making drivers work long hours:
23 June 1927 → Commons Sitting → TRANSPORT.
63. Mr. THURTLE asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that commercial motor transport companies frequently send large lorries, bearing heavy loads, on journeys involving practically continuous travelling for more than 12 hours with a single driver; if he is aware that this practice, by reason of the strain it imposes on the driver, is a source of danger both to the driver and the general public; and if he is proposing to take powers to deal with this practice?
§Colonel ASHLEY I am aware that it is alleged that commercial motor transport companies on occasion require their drivers to take long spells of duty without rest. The matter is one which primarily concerns conditions of service, 2055 and I do not think that it could be properly dealt with in the draft Road Traffic Bill.
§Mr. THURTLE Is the right hon. and gallant Gentleman aware that companies to-day are sending men from London to Birmingham and back, single drivers, with loads of over 10 tons? These men return sometimes in the dead of night, and does he not think it is a very dangerous practice to allow single drivers to engage in such long journeys and travel back by night?
MOTOR DRIVERS (HOURS OF WORK).
HC Deb 26 October 1932 vol 269 cc968-9 968
§28. Lord SCONE asked the Minister of Transport if his attention has been called to the case tried by the Oxford bench 969 on 9th September, in which evidence was given that a lorry driver was compelled to do 230 miles in 16 hours, including time for unloading; and what steps he proposes to take to render such a state of affairs impossible, in view both of the strain imposed on the drivers and the consequent danger to themselves and other users of the roads?
§41. Mr. THORNE asked the Minister of Transport if he has any information in regard to the long hours worked by motor-lorry drivers employed by a commercial road-transport firm in Bromley, Kent; if he is aware that the firm has been summoned for this offence; and whether he intends taking any action to prevent such offences in the interest of employés and the general public?
§Lieut.-Colonel HEADLAM My attention has been called to these two cases, and I understand that both the firms in question were convicted and fined for contravening Section 19 of the Road Traffic Act, 1930. In the Bromley case I am informed that the fines and costs amounted to nearly £100. In the Oxford case notice of appeal has been given. I am not in a position to institute proceedings myself, but the better enforcement of the provisions of this Section will, I am sure, continue to engage the attention of the authorities concerned and the publicity afforded by eases such as those referred to in the hon. Members’ questions should do much to secure their observance.
§Mr. THORNE Is the hon. Gentleman aware that in many cases employers are making lorry drivers break the law by compelling them to work 9, 10 and 11 hours at a stretch without any rest at all?
ROG:
In an ideal world …12 hours max from clocking on to clocking off with all hours between those times paid on an agreed hourly rate
12 off resets the above daily limit
Max of 60 hours before a rest of minimum 36 hours must be taken
That might mean a driver could do 6 x 10 hour shifts (60) then 36 off or 5 x 12 (60) before 36 off or 7 x 8 hour shifts (56) before taking 36 off
Driving time limited to a max of 10 hours per shift
Commuting time limited to a max of 1 hour each way but if more then the extra gets added to the 12 hours off
I do not think any driver would be too tired if this was the case
and when was the last time you did any work
the maoster:
Saaamon:
The company im working for at the moment, based on their past would expect/want us to run 24hours a day…I take it the interview for the new job went well then Simon?
Edit to add. Just seen your other post Simon. Do you mean your last company, or your new one? If it’s the new one dude be careful what you post here. Some people have no sense of humour, and I’d hate to see you drop yourself in the brown and smelly so soon after starting.
No im talking about the company i work for in newmarket at the moment… Last week though, good times! I’d only work for professional companies now.
as long as i keep taking home at least £500 a week i dont care how long the hours are. i go in to do a job and sometimes its a long shift. of course i know what times the long shifts start so i aim to get them. those days will end next month though when i start a new contract with fixed start times every day. nobody seems to know exactly what the job is though but its a premium rate over the delivery drivers and i made it very clear that i am not interested in 8 hour shifts. i was assured that its 10 - 12 hours a day which is reasonable and should easily meet my target of 50+ hours per week
should bring back the 12& a half hr spread over like it used to be , bet our pay would be better than it is now ,
bald bloke:
ROG:
12 hours maxI’m all for this ^^ i can’t stand going over 12 hours unless i got a night out.
I agree with this too I think should be a max of 12 at base and 13 hrs if on night out but Im on day rate so wouldn’t cost me a penny to work less hours. If it was up to my place they would have us out all hours they already plan us on 3x over 13’s each a week
NewLad:
bald bloke:
ROG:
12 hours maxI’m all for this ^^ i can’t stand going over 12 hours unless i got a night out.
I agree with this too I think should be a max of 12 at base and 13 hrs if on night out but Im on day rate so wouldn’t cost me a penny to work less hours. If it was up to my place they would have us out all hours they already plan us on 3x over 13’s each a week
WTF would you want 13 hours max on a night out? 11 hours off away from home is too long in my opinion!
What I don’t get with all these rules on the amount of hours you are allowed to work is, the poorly paid, those on minimum wage, why cap what they can earn? surely if they want to work to earn extra then they should be allowed? It’s ok for the politicians and the like who are all on £60K plus to make these rules up, it doesn’t affect their standard of living! Let people who want to work and earn there way through life crack on.
The reason I don’t want to do more than 13hrs is because my start times are usually 0100/0200hrs im ready for bed again by 1700 but sometimes I have just parked up, then I have to shower, eat, speak to my kids/wife then chill out before going to sleep. Like I said it wouldn’t effect me financially, if it did my opinion would be different.
Fileep I understand where youre coming from in the respect that it should be up to other people how long they drive/work for, but you know then you will get people running all hours of day and night, money grabbing. Driving tired just to make the extra pennies. And then when joe bloggs runs into the back of a family car and it turns out hes been on card for 19 hours all political hell will break loose and there will be road safety campaigns to limit drivers hours etc… bringing us nicely back to square 1. Even though im away most of the time I very rarely work more than 12 now and that suits me fine, but I do notice the difference if I have to squeeze out 15. Especially if I have a 9 and get straight back on the road. This is probably going to cause a stir, but if im honest anybody who would gladly work over 15 probably needs to get out the truck a bit more anyway!
14 hour working day. 30 minutes break after 3.5 hours driving or 1 hour break after 5 hours driving.
No daily driving limit as long as everything is done withing 14 hours.
maximum 70 hours driving per week.
Annual wage agreement, So whoever you work for you will get the same money for the same work. Employers will have to offer exceptional working conditions to secure the best drivers.