Then you need to get all 35 hours of dcpc training either LGV, PCV or a mix of both to be able to commercially drive LGVs after 09/09/2014 or to commercially drive PCVs from now onwards
When you get the 35 hours at any time before 09/09/2014 you will get a DQC expiry dated 09/09/2019 and that will cover you to commercially drive both LGVs and PCVs but before you can drive a PCV you need to get the licence for it
Do not confuse the licence and the dcpc as they are separate issues
PS - as you already have dcpc PCV acquired rights you might be lucky and find a PCV training school that has PCV training approved for periodic dcpc so that can count towards your 35 hours - but you will be lucky to find such a school doing that
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
Just to stick my oar in ,out O.P. could find a trainer who has his practical training passed by JAUPT then his learning to drive the bus would count towards his DCPC.I think that wagon drivers should be allowed to drive buses anyway as they are little more than 7.5 tonners just dressed up differently.Also bus folk should be entitled to a C licence too.
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
It CAN count for dcpc hours when doing cat D if the training school has on-road training time approved and the learner is also in the PCV dcpc periodic system which the OP is
The same goes for those doing LGV training if they are already in the dcpc periodic system for LGV
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
Thanks looks like I wont be dusting off the tutu of in the near future then.
alamcculloch:
.I think that wagon drivers should be allowed to drive buses anyway as they are little more than 7.5 tonners just dressed up differently.Also bus folk should be entitled to a C licence too.
An interesting opinion. I wonder what other dual licence holders think. I would disagree either way round. It is simple to alternate from one type to another given experience, but to just jump in on day one and go…no.
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
It CAN count for dcpc hours when doing cat D if the training school has on-road training time approved and the learner is also in the PCV dcpc periodic system which the OP is
The same goes for those doing LGV training if they are already in the dcpc periodic system for LGV
Yes Rog it does,but I am quite sure the OP was thinking he could save some money by bypassing the dcpc by just passing the practical cat C (an idea I myself had a few years ago before reading the dcpc legislation).
Do you know of anyone including dcpc as part of practical training?Is it more expensive?Do you honestly think someone with 20 years class one experience(as the OP says he has) would require 35 hours training to pass a cat C practical.
I know you mean well Rog-your answers come from a position of knowledge-but in this case all the OP required was a NO - you cant bypass the system. I suspect it was the same thought I had-maybe I can bypass dcpc AND get a cat C at the same time. Unfortunately not.
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
It CAN count for dcpc hours when doing cat D if the training school has on-road training time approved and the learner is also in the PCV dcpc periodic system which the OP is
The same goes for those doing LGV training if they are already in the dcpc periodic system for LGV
Yes Rog it does,but I am quite sure the OP was thinking he could save some money by bypassing the dcpc by just passing the practical cat C (an idea I myself had a few years ago before reading the dcpc legislation).
Do you know of anyone including dcpc as part of practical training?Is it more expensive?Do you honestly think someone with 20 years class one experience(as the OP says he has) would require 35 hours training to pass a cat C practical.
I know you mean well Rog-your answers come from a position of knowledge-but in this case all the OP required was a NO - you cant bypass the system. I suspect it was the same thought I had-maybe I can bypass dcpc AND get a cat C at the same time. Unfortunately not.
Im not interested in saving the cost of training I was just thinking if
I must pay for some useless training then I could get something out of it.
It would appear that its not going to happen.
Skippy70:
Yes Rog it does,but I am quite sure the OP was thinking he could save some money by bypassing the dcpc by just passing the practical cat C (an idea I myself had a few years ago before reading the dcpc legislation).
Do you know of anyone including dcpc as part of practical training?Is it more expensive?Do you honestly think someone with 20 years class one experience(as the OP says he has) would require 35 hours training to pass a cat C practical.
I know you mean well Rog-your answers come from a position of knowledge-but in this case all the OP required was a NO - you cant bypass the system. I suspect it was the same thought I had-maybe I can bypass dcpc AND get a cat C at the same time. Unfortunately not.
A few LGV schools have practical training for licence acquisition approved for dcpc hours - that is fact
If a learner doing cat C already had cat C1 or is a cat C doing CE then periodic dcpc hours can count if the provider has the approval
If doing 2 to 1 training over 5 days with day 5 as test day then the 4 days can count as 4 x 7 hours for each driver if they pay the little extra for it
1 to 1 over 5 half days only gets a single driver 14 hours
A newbie with no LGV category at all cannot take up the above because they will be on the initial dcpc and that must be passed before going into the periodic dcpc system
The OP can do this for PCV D because he has a D1 101 which now counts in the same way as C1 does for pre 1997 licence holders in regard to dcpc
oatcake1967:
Will that cover me on my DCPC requirements for HGVs ■■?
To cut through all the other answers and give an answer to your original question—NO. Getting a medical,provisional & actually passing a cat D licence will not gain you ANY dcpc time.
All it will do is get cat D on your licence. The Dcpc is seperate-but as stated above,once you have BOTH C & D the dcpc merges. You will still have to do 35 hours-but you will then be able to do the Priscilla thing !!
It CAN count for dcpc hours when doing cat D if the training school has on-road training time approved and the learner is also in the PCV dcpc periodic system which the OP is
The same goes for those doing LGV training if they are already in the dcpc periodic system for LGV
Yes Rog it does,but I am quite sure the OP was thinking he could save some money by bypassing the dcpc by just passing the practical cat C (an idea I myself had a few years ago before reading the dcpc legislation).
Do you know of anyone including dcpc as part of practical training?Is it more expensive?Do you honestly think someone with 20 years class one experience(as the OP says he has) would require 35 hours training to pass a cat C practical.
I know you mean well Rog-your answers come from a position of knowledge-but in this case all the OP required was a NO - you cant bypass the system. I suspect it was the same thought I had-maybe I can bypass dcpc AND get a cat C at the same time. Unfortunately not.
Im not interested in saving the cost of training I was just thinking if
I must pay for some useless training then I could get something out of it.
It would appear that its not going to happen.
Sorry,I am not making my point very clear here. I agree with what you are saying. If I had to pay out I would like something practical too. As I say,not very clear from me.
