I just missed death by 5 cm

about half an hour ago i was driving on a13 eastbound doing no moee than 65mph as i was tired and planning to stop soon… lucky me!

on that bit near ferry lane junction when the road bends to the left and there is a concrete wall along it some idiot decided that it will be good place to park right at the left lane (he did not even bothered to pull over to the hard shoulder). i am driving a small despatch van so because of that wall i spotted him in last moment! i managed to svoid the crash but it was a close shave and i mean that: i lost my wing mirror and fuel flap and have some damage to the paintwork. it was a miracle that i managed to not let van spin arround. i did not stopped there but pulled over on next junction for safety. took a few deep breaths and when i stopped shaking went round and headed back into london to meet the guy and check if hes ok (i was afraid that i might kill someone if he was for example trying to fix a whell or anything…) when i was heading other way i saw him starting and by the time i went round he was already gone. so it definitely wasnt a breakdown, he just fancied to stop there!

if you spot a white transit van with a damage to.right rear corner, please kill him on my behalf.

meantime i managed to calm down and called 112 then went to the police station to report it. my gaffer looks for some way to let me continue to drive as i need new mirror now and i cant drive without it, especially that i am on the way to austria…

but tell me one thing: how one can be so stupid and stop in such a place?

Just glad your ok mate. Could have been alot worse!

At least you are ok, as said, and at least you had your wits about you. The next one along there may not have had and it could have been really nasty.

Good on you for your reactions…

Hopefully the police will find the driver, but a white transit? Sounds a bit ■■■■■ to me… Probably nicking something.

I could be wrong and more than likely am but i thought the speed limit on that part of the A13 was 60 MPH?

According to the signs there is 70…

Off to Austria in a Van? Sounds like good fun. Enjoy yourself and bring back some Milka chocolate. Re the near miss, sounds like you were lucky, hope you have your seat belt on. Try not to think about what might have been too much. But if you were obeying the 2 second rule and all that… :laughing:

Choosing a more scenic route in the car from the :imp: Closed Junction 32 Shopping Outlet :imp: back to Leeds, we went on a rural B road, got winter tyres on, so its not to bad from me. Another car way behind me, but on a blind bend comes a normal car with a BMW type 4x4 overtaking him, we were close enough to see his wife was damm ugly. I slammed on, no choice and kept in straight, the 4x4 squeezed through as a fair old rate of knots, the car he was overtaking slammed on and drifted off the road. We stopped thinking “by the grace of god” looked in my mirror and saw the car who was way behind had braked to hard and was coming towards us sideways, stopped 30m away after it too slide off the road.

Tow rope out and pulled them both onto the road, one thanked me in very loud and slow English, it clicked that the car is on Polish plates, so told him the Queens Yorkshire is fine with me. Thats as near death or missing front teeth that I have been.

Speed limits for vans is now 60mph
dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/sp … peedlimits

mb14:
Speed limits for vans is now 60mph
dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/sp … peedlimits

Unless they are car derived and under 2 tonnes laden weight.

Gridley51:

mb14:
Speed limits for vans is now 60mph
dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/sp … peedlimits

Unless they are car derived and under 2 tonnes laden weight.

Well… is my van is taxi derived, or this is a peugot taxi derived from it? :slight_smile:

Anyway good to know i though that its apply to over 2
8t vans… :slight_smile:

Maybe he had broken down Orys and managed to get it going again? I’m glad you’re OK mate but perhaps you might want to examine your role in this near miss? Safe driving bud!

44 Tonne Ton:
Maybe he had broken down Orys and managed to get it going again? I’m glad you’re OK mate but perhaps you might want to examine your role in this near miss? Safe driving bud!

Yeah if i drove 50 it eould not happened. And if i was doing 20 i would even to be able to avoid crash if he was driving wrong way…

We assume that some things are so unlikely that we can take some risk, otherwise it would be not possible to go around any bend, as there always can be someone going wrong side of the rosd behind.
Off course if i was driving 60 instead of 65 maybe i would miss him totally but what if i was driving my car snd doing 70? Or if i was in old non limited 7.5 tonner - that would be pieces of transit all around east anglia now.

My point is no matter how fast i was driving he should not be parked there and if he broke down, he should use his momentum to get onto the shoulder/pavement as he was posing a risk to everyone going there and some could drive 70 there.

Anyway i dont believe in breakdown, i think he knows hes wrong as in other case he would propably report to.the police that someone hit him and run away…

Anyway this case proves that i am right to carry my warning triangle woth me even if its not mandatory in uk. If that would mean that i can save someones live i would risk a walk along the motorway to put it before the bend if it was me to broke down in such dangerous place…

If there is one thing I have learnt living in Poland is how to break down properly :smiley:

you do seem to have a lot of accidents/ near misses Orys.

del949:
you do seem to have a lot of accidents/ near misses Orys.

Why do you think so?

Because I wrote this post and recently posted pictures from 2007?

del949:
you do seem to have a lot of accidents/ near misses Orys.

Maybe Orys is just brave enough or angry enough to tell everyone about them :wink:

Lycanthrope:

del949:
you do seem to have a lot of accidents/ near misses Orys.

Maybe Orys is just brave enough or angry enough to tell everyone about them :wink:

Yeah, that’s might be the point. I don’t think it’s a shame that I do mistakes sometimes (even in both cases my fault is partial to none and I could be rather happy for my reactions), I think we are all human and we all make mistakes. So I can’t see a reason why we should not talk about it, especially that one can always learn something on the other’s mistakes, and it’s always better to learn on the other people’s mistakes than on your own :slight_smile:

If someone will tell me that he never had any near miss, I would just not buy it. Even if you are the best of the bestest, there is always that bit which does not depends of you.

“Hello, hello… is that 112”?

“Yes this the emergency operator, how can i assist you”?

“I want to report that I just drove into a stationary vehicle…”

Always drive at such a speed that you can stop, on your own side of the road, in the distance that you can see to be clear ahead.

Driveroneuk:
“Hello, hello… is that 112”?

“Yes this the emergency operator, how can i assist you”?

“I want to report that I just drove into a stationary vehicle…”

Yes, keep them coming :wink:

I know that it is partially my fault (maybe my reaction time wasn’t too good at 3am…) but I still stand on the place that main weight of the incident is on the guy who decided to park on the motorway /expressway or whatever that bit officially is.

As for my side: I did felt that I need to stop for coffe, so I slowed down, planning to stop at the garage after Dartford Crossing.

My mistake can be that I underestimated how slower my reaction time will be, but we all know that it’s hard to tell “My reaction time is now as slow, that to compensate it I have to drive 6.78 mph slower”, so I just estimated that this speed will be OK for me for then, and I was very close to that this estimate was right

(This close).

Always drive at such a speed that you can stop, on your own side of the road, in the distance that you can see to be clear ahead.

This rule is very good in theory, but if followed by everyone, the whole country will hold in standstill. Most of us when taking the bend, do it with about travelling speed, assuming that there should be no stationary obstruction after it. (I don’t know if it’s clearly stated in British Highway code, but in most countries stopping at bends and near the bends is illegal).

As I wrote before, answering to the 44 ton’s post, I agree with the teory, but in practice there is a point to be made between “acceptable risk” and “required speed”.

If we would take any possible risks into consideration, we will all drive at pedestrian’s pace. Because how do you know if there will be no junkie throwing stone from the bridge above? How do you know if there is suicidal woman hiding behind this truck parked in the layby, only waiting for you to come close enough?
When driving on single carriage road, are you prepared to stop if the oncoming car got a blow out and suddenly turn into your half of the road? These are all possible things which could happen, but we can’t go mad about safety.

And as coming for mine situation: the van had only hazards on and no lights apart of this. I spotted it only when the lights went on… I think that might be another factor why I was so close - simply I lost this half a second…

What I can say apart of it: I wasn’t too tired. Previous day I wasn’t working and I spent it at home. I went to bed about 2 o’clock and I woke up about 13:30, spending another hour in bed with a book (lucky me :smiley:).

I went to work at about 17:00, but my load wasn’t there yet, so I spent nearly two hours waiting, chatting with the folks and reading my book. I left Glasgow about 19:00 and about 23:00 I stopped for a dinner (shame to say, in McDonald’s, as before I got hungry everything got closed). So at the moment of the accident it was 12 hours from the last time I slept, 9,5 hours of duty, slightly less than 7 hours of driving and slightly over 4 hours since last significant break (after the visit to junk food outled I stopped for fuel on the way and I usually take 5-10 mins break then just for my comfort). So really nothing - I would rather say that this was up to the time of the night when it happened…

It’s not that I am trying to find excuse, your points are valid and as I said, I am using this as a valuable lesson, so I just think loudly about everything concerning the incident. If anyone can benefit from it, that’s good (although I doubt that anybody will come up and say “Oh, I learned something on that example” somehow… :grimacing: )

So what are my lessons:

  1. Drive slower when tired (this one is ticked, I did, just not slower enough)
  2. If I ever broke down on the carriageway, I would not stay with hazards only, I would leave my main lights on as well. And put my triangle before the bend!
  3. If I want to go faster over the bend with limited visibility on the empty motorway in the middle of the night, I will move outside, instead of being so good with a Highway code and drive as much to left (right) as possible. If the motorway is empty anyway, there will be no harm to anyone if I stay in middle lane :wink:

Yeah sure Orys,totally mortified,no one else on this forum has suffered anything like this before.Get over it and move on.Freakin cry baby :exclamation: