Will their be lorrydrivers in the future or will it be automation driven by robots, or remote operators like the army operate drones. 
I wonder what idea’s you come up with. 
Probably nothing to shift by road in a hundred years time Norm.Everyone will take a pill for food and roam around starkers.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
Probably nothing to shift by road in a hundred years time Norm.Everyone will take a pill for food and roam around starkers.
Cheers Dave.
A lot of drivers are pre-programmed anyway along with all the bloody gadgets in cabs they have to put up with. Not seen any running around starkers though Dave,not in t’IOM anyway.
Chris Webb:
Dave the Renegade:
Probably nothing to shift by road in a hundred years time Norm.Everyone will take a pill for food and roam around starkers.
Cheers Dave.A lot of drivers are pre-programmed anyway along with all the bloody gadgets in cabs they have to put up with. Not seen any running around starkers though Dave,not in t’IOM anyway.
They will still be working for the same ■■■■ poor wages that are around now. regards Kev. 
In 2113, people will marvel at how little real progress has been made in the previous 150 years. They will see 1960s and '70s lorries in the museums, and reflect that those vehicles would be, functionally, perfectly adequate for the needs of the 22nd century, if there was fuel and space on the road still available for them. They will hate the 20th and 21st century generations, for their profligacy with the oil reserves. Christ knows what will power future lorries- probably hydrogen fuel cells, charged by nuclear power. Electronics will probably have taken over all the remaining driving functions. The driver will just be there as an overseer, maybe to maneouvre the vehicle at the beginning and end of its journey. Not our problem, thankfully.
Hallo, happy that I will be long gone, liked to be 20 in '45 and never had know electronic lorries. Should have had a real better life, BUT less less confortable. (good old days were they ■■) 
Cheers Eric,
the rate they’re going we’ll be paying employers to hire us,with all these poxy licences and courses
Well as a retired long distance haulage contractor All I can see for the future of an industrey that is second to none, Is doom & bloody gloom, Where in the Hell do they get the TITHEADS Nowadays that think they know how to run a Haulage Firm or Firms that have been doing it before some of these Mr R.Soles were born beats me, Where in the hell will it all end I ask you ■■? Regards Larry.
[ZB]Anorak wrote:“Christ knows what will power future lorries- probably hydrogen fuel cells, charged by nuclear power. Electronics will probably have taken over all the remaining driving functions. The driver will just be there as an overseer, maybe to maneouvre the vehicle at the beginning and end of its journey.”
Yes.I think you are generally right:Certain motor vehicle manufacturers and other interested parties have already experimented with motor vehicles that can be automated to drive themselves and/or can be remotely controlled - Mercedes-Benz has also developed a system whereby the leading lorry controls
several other lorries that are travelling in convoy behind it - as to how practical this is remains to be seen.
ACCIDENT FREE ROADS AND MOTORING.
I am reminded of a recent *Zurich Motor Vehicle Insurance television advertisement.This great advertisement goes in to the future and shows how,if need be,Zurich’s insurance policies can be made flexiable to take in to account new technologies, when applied to,in this case,motor road vehicles. The scene is a busy main road,the driver of a motorcar switches on the Accident Avoidance System Control,all the other motor vehicles also have this system and it enables them to travel in free flowing traffic,enter main roads without stopping for oncoming traffic,go through junctions without traffic lights,and so on without any collisions and accidents! … One of my slogans is this:Science fiction today becomes science fact tomorrow,and it is true,thus an in-built Accident Avoidance System Control in motor road vehicles,or something along similar lines,will become a reality in the future
MOTOR VEHICLES WILL DRIVE THEMSELVES.
There are at least two other things that I recall,which will not only apply to motorcar drivers,but also drivers of motorcoaches,buses and lorries,as well as what I have said in the above paragraph:Motorcar Historian,Lord Montagu of Beaulieu wrote this book,The British Motorist - A Celebration in Pictures,published in 1987,in which he mentioned the future of motoring;he said the “driver” and his or her passengers will get in to the motorcar and it will then drive itself to wherever their destination will be.
THE “DRIVER” IS ENJOYING A GAME OF CARDS WHILE THE MOTORCAR DRIVES ITSELF.
I once saw an article,maybe in an old EAGLE ANNUAL from the 1950s or 1960s,about The Motorcar Of The
Future,and one of the illustrations showed motorcars travelling along on a motorway.In the nearest automobile (the drawing portrays the rear view of the cars),the “driver” and his passengers are all sat round a table enjoying a game of cards,or whatever,while the motorcar drives itself
YOUR DRIVING SKILLS ARE NO LONGER CONSISTENTLY NEEDED - YOU WILL RECEIVE A CUT IN WAGES?
If lorries,buses, motorcoaches,vans,taxis,motorcars,etc,drive themselves,will the proffessional drivers (or should that be Oversee Drivers?) have to suffer a cut in wages since their driving skills will virtually be no longer used?..except “maybe to maneouvre the vehicle at the beginning and end of its journey.”
Having said all that,governments will have to limit the amount of automation in all areas of industry,business,etc,or else if everything is automated there will be mass unemployment and most people will not be able to afford to buy the products of what the automated factories produce
FUTURE POWER FOR MOTOR VEHICLES.
In 2114,probably all vehicles will be powered by electric motors,which will be energized by either long range
lightwight batteries (yes,battery technology will have made THE major breakthrough! 
) and/or on-board
hydrogen-fuelled internal combustion engines driving electricity generators.
SELF DRIVEN MOTOR VEHICLES AND/OR MOTOR VEHICLE JOURNEYS CONTROLLED BY SUPER COMPUTERS.
To return to the Accident Avoidance System Control,it could well be that to eliminate accidents,cut down on
traffic jams,to maintain free-flowing traffic and so on,all motor road vehicles will drive themselves,will be in constant communication with each other via radio and in-built computers to enable their movements to be co-ordinated. And/or all motor road vehicles will be remotely controlled by a super and powerful computer that will co-ordinate the movements of all the motor road vehicles,and will,of course,take in to account the pre-programmed destination(s) of each road vehicle.
Probably each town,city and motorway will each have it’s own computer,i.e. for example your lorry,or motorcoach,whatever,will be controlled by the London computer,then,when it enters the M1 Motorway Northbound Carriageway,the M1 computer takes over and when your lorry exits the M1 for Sheffield,the Sheffield computer will take over. Town and city computers will also cover the motor vehicles and roads in countryside areas.
We probably already have all the technology to do all of the above NOW!
JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND MONEY.
It’s just going take time and a lot of money to enable millions of motor vehicles to simultaneously drive themselves,and/or to be remotely controlled-driven by super computers
A TRUE SLOGAN:SCIENCE FICTION TODAY IS SCIENCE FACT TOMORROW.
And if you think that some or all of the above is far-fetched,well…self-propelled road vehicles,wireless
-radio communications - flying in aeroplanes,recorded sounds,including music and speech,spaceship journeys to the moon,television,and so on were all misguidedly thought of as being impossiable at one time,BUT they all became realities:Science fiction today becomes science fact tommorow
A GLIMPSE IN TO THE FUTURE:-
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So self-driven and/or remotely controlled-driven motor road vehicles of all types and kinds will perform
peerlessly like they do in this wonderful *Zurich Financial Services - Zurich Insurance What Happens ? : Cars
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VALKYRIE
Probably each town,city and motorway will each have it’s own computer,i.e. for example your lorry,or motorcoach,whatever,will be controlled by the London computer,then,when it enters the M1 Motorway Northbound Carriageway,the M1 computer takes over and when your lorry exits the M1 for **Sheffield,**the Sheffield computer will take over. Town and city computers will also cover the motor vehicles and roads in countryside areas.
We probably already have all the technology to do all of the above NOW!
Hi VALKYRIE all the wagons which I drove right back from the 60s would pull off for Sheffield even before the M1 was finished they would end up parked in English Steel, the Wicker goods yard canal wharf or the lorry park at the bottom of Commercial Street and that was without a computer it would not be possible nowadays as some toe rag would nick something probably not the wagon as they would be flummoxed seeing a gate change but I do tend to think what you have written is not too far off what the future holds.
cheers Johnnie
VALKYRIE:
YOUR DRIVING SKILLS ARE NO LONGER CONSISTENTLY NEEDED - YOU WILL RECEIVE A CUT IN WAGES?
If lorries,buses, motorcoaches,vans,taxis,motorcars,etc,drive themselves,will the proffessional drivers (or should that be Oversee Drivers?) have to suffer a cut in wages since their driving skills will virtually be no longer used?..except “maybe to maneouvre the vehicle at the beginning and end of its journey.”Having said all that,governments will have to limit the amount of automation in all areas of industry,business,etc,or else if everything is automated there will be mass unemployment and most people will not be able to afford to buy the products of what the automated factories produce
VALKYRIE
Thought-provoking post, this. Over the last century, we have already seen the replacement of manual labour with machinery. Apart from a rise in unemployment, this has resulted in an increase in the manufacture and use of throwaway tat (almost everything we buy), and the overcomplication of previously simple tasks (computers labour-saving devices? Not a bit of it. The IT industry has become, predominantly, a make-work/make-profit contrivance), to keep businesses stocked with employees and customers.
I wonder how many of the future’s wage-slaves would rather be trundling around the countryside in a 20th century lorry for a living?
I also wonder when Carryfast will find his way onto this thread?
Afternoon Gentlemen, yes VALKYRIE, a very thought provoking post.
I am reminded of my late Grandfather who left us in the late 70s, at not far short of his century. He had been a Canal Boatman, had seen the change from Horse Power to the internal combustion engine, the coming of the Railways, and their takeover of water borne traffic, the growth of road transport, and its eclipse of the Railways. Let alone mans early attempts at flight, right up to Space Travel. The Telephone, TV, Medical science. His own father had endured the amputation of one leg, caught between a Narrowboat and Bridge, by the use of Irish Whisky as an anasthetic!!! Look what medicine is capable of today. As a youngster, and a young man I used to be fascinated by his stories of work, and the depth of his recall.
As I bumble across my fields doing the daily chores, right next to me in my tractor sit a small aray of computer screens, dictating, and analysing what I am doing. I have become so used to them over the last few years, that I do not notice them. And it is amazing how one “accepts” these aids, and suddenly become dependent upon their information.Thirty years ago such precise control and monitoring were totally beyond reasonable comprehension.
We are passing through history, we do not notice it, merely that we are on a journey. But it is vital that somehow we all note down bits of our lives and experiences, they are many and varied…and all are equally valuable, and no doubt will be of interest to future generations, as are those of our forefathers to us today .
It`s a little early, but perhaps a little light Bollinger may lubricate my little grey cells, Cheerio for now.
Oh to be around in that computer-controlled future, when a twenty-pence diode fails and brings the whole lot to a standstill!
Fodenway, (a dying creature on a dying planet!)
Reasonable amount of input, I think the next step will be ten or more trailors like the Austrialians, but on routes served by the railway, and run like the Cambridge bus system, thus taking lorrys away from the motorways, and stop car drivers blameing the lorries for accident and damaging the roads. 
Norman Ingram:
Reasonable amount of input,
i hope they do better than the cambridge guided bus route. apparently 2 buses collided on there last week .
Last week I delivered a Battery-Changer to a RDC. It swaps the power packs of fork-lift trucks and pallet-trucks so they dont have to stand idle while they are being recharged. When all the oil has gone; this could be the way every thing is re-fueled with road side stations that take your run-down batteries and slide in fresh ones.
Just had a thought, electrical lorries with solar panels to supply power to the batteries, when parked up,plug in to supply electricity. To power co mpany.
hallo I should want to come back for one day in the 22 century to see all things But I think I would be as soon as possible back in the ground Yes Yes .And electonically 
controled by then will be women too Yes Yes 
.
Cheers Eric,
Women machine to contol men, they already do that, but it might be cheaper to put a couple of 50p’s in a robot and enjoy it. But sorry lads the human race would end after a few years.
Norman Ingram:
Women machine to contol men,
You must be related to Fraser out of " Dads Army " Norm,we are all doomed.
Cheers Dave.