I read yesterday that Hoyer have been training army guys so is it safe to assume they’d be covering/working on their behalf?
And if so will they be charged for their services?
We’ve all known that subbing out clobbered their terms and conditions, about the horrific shift patterns they have which hardly encourage drivers.
So on the basis that they’ve hardly made it enticing to work for them having cut things to the bone for years, to now be bailed out at essentially taxpayers expense seems to go against the messaging of encouraging industry to resolve its in crisis. If there’s no penalty then what’s to stop the next critical sectors along, say food, crying foul and begging for help?
I don’t think it’s a commercial arrangement with the aim of returning to a situation of the freedom to fuel up private vehicles to travel as, when and wherever we wish on demand.
More like a coup imposing a rationed controlled travel regime until the automated EV smart charging system is up and running to do the same job and long before 2030.
Domestic gas supplies turned off or at leat taxed in line with electric prices next.
Hope I’m wrong or the next Summer’s road trip across Europe with the Jag is off and it’s going to be a cold winter indoors.
Government should never get involved with private companies. If they screw up and go bust, tough. Run your company better and treat your staff right so they actually want to work!
All these bail-outs for major screw-ups is mostly the reason we keep seeing screw-ups. Companies are getting used to the idea that if they get large enough and fail, they won’t actually fail because the Government (US!) won’t let them.
It’s totally wrong.
I’d also get rid of furlough and even most benefits and tell the sponges to find work!
Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, yet all I hear on the radio is how we need foreigners to take up the slack. Start with those here!!! These minimum wage employers need a kick up the backside.
toonsy:
I read yesterday that Hoyer have been training army guys so is it safe to assume they’d be covering/working on their behalf?
And if so will they be charged for their services?
We’ve all known that subbing out clobbered their terms and conditions, about the horrific shift patterns they have which hardly encourage drivers.
So on the basis that they’ve hardly made it enticing to work for them having cut things to the bone for years, to now be bailed out at essentially taxpayers expense seems to go against the messaging of encouraging industry to resolve its in crisis. If there’s no penalty then what’s to stop the next critical sectors along, say food, crying foul and begging for help?
What is these horrific shift patterns you speak of , it always seems to be mentioned when talking of petrol tankers , I’ve done , midnight , 1 am starts , sat , sun years ago , I’m struggling to think what’s worse , daughter who is a nurse goes from nights - long days , weekends etc
I’m just interested what is genuinely so horrific that’s not done on normal lorry/ any jobs ?
Nb when I worked for stobarts I talked to a petrol tanker driver who worked for them , he said it was the best job he’d had , much better than the general job he was on , no mention of horrific shifts
Has anybody else noticed that the only tanker outfit being shown on the TV as being short of Drivers,is HOYER does that not tell us anything about what sort of outfit they are likely to work for. Nothing showing of Wincanton or DHL
lolipop:
Has anybody else noticed that the only tanker outfit being shown on the TV as being short of Drivers,is HOYER does that not tell us anything about what sort of outfit they are likely to work for. Nothing showing of Wincanton or DHL
TruckerGuy:
This sums up the problem with capitalism, they take the profits, taxpayers bail out the losses
Government should never get involved with private companies. If they screw up and go bust, tough. Run your company better and treat your staff right so they actually want to work!
All these bail-outs for major screw-ups is mostly the reason we keep seeing screw-ups. Companies are getting used to the idea that if they get large enough and fail, they won’t actually fail because the Government (US!) won’t let them.
It’s totally wrong.
I’d also get rid of furlough and even most benefits and tell the sponges to find work!
Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, yet all I hear on the radio is how we need foreigners to take up the slack. Start with those here!!! These minimum wage employers need a kick up the backside.
toonsy:
I read yesterday that Hoyer have been training army guys so is it safe to assume they’d be covering/working on their behalf?
And if so will they be charged for their services?
We’ve all known that subbing out clobbered their terms and conditions, about the horrific shift patterns they have which hardly encourage drivers.
So on the basis that they’ve hardly made it enticing to work for them having cut things to the bone for years, to now be bailed out at essentially taxpayers expense seems to go against the messaging of encouraging industry to resolve its in crisis. If there’s no penalty then what’s to stop the next critical sectors along, say food, crying foul and begging for help?
What is these horrific shift patterns you speak of , it always seems to be mentioned when talking of petrol tankers , I’ve done , midnight , 1 am starts , sat , sun years ago , I’m struggling to think what’s worse , daughter who is a nurse goes from nights - long days , weekends etc
I’m just interested what is genuinely so horrific that’s not done on normal lorry/ any jobs ?
Nb when I worked for stobarts I talked to a petrol tanker driver who worked for them , he said it was the best job he’d had , much better than the general job he was on , no mention of horrific shifts
It’s been posted on here before many times about Hoyer. Days and nights mixed together, no set pattern (even if that pattern is say 1am starts daily, it’s a pattern), plus things like deductions for traffic delays that they used to partake of etc etc.
As said it seems to be Hoyer that are struggling. Why is that? And if they’re getting bailed out by the army because they can’t attract drivers maybe it’s time for them to look inwards at why? And also to stump up for outside help such as from the army which we all contributed to through our taxes.
I’ve wondered about this myself. I think it likely that a soldier is paid less than a civilian tanker driver (but that’s just an assumption. If anyone knows different please correct me!), so does this mean hoyer are still getting drivers on the cheap?
TruckerGuy:
This sums up the problem with Socialist policies.
Government should never get involved with private companies. If they screw up and go bust, tough. Run your company better and treat your staff right so they actually want to work!
All these bail-outs for major screw-ups is mostly the reason we keep seeing screw-ups. Companies are getting used to the idea that if they get large enough and fail, they won’t actually fail because the Government (US!) won’t let them.
It’s totally wrong.
I’d also get rid of furlough and even most benefits and tell the sponges to find work!
Nearly 3 million unemployed in this country, yet all I hear on the radio is how we need foreigners to take up the slack. Start with those here!!! These minimum wage employers need a kick up the backside.
Where did you get the idea bailing out rich companies with public money was socialist?
toonsy:
I read yesterday that Hoyer have been training army guys so is it safe to assume they’d be covering/working on their behalf?
And if so will they be charged for their services?
We’ve all known that subbing out clobbered their terms and conditions, about the horrific shift patterns they have which hardly encourage drivers.
So on the basis that they’ve hardly made it enticing to work for them having cut things to the bone for years, to now be bailed out at essentially taxpayers expense seems to go against the messaging of encouraging industry to resolve its in crisis. If there’s no penalty then what’s to stop the next critical sectors along, say food, crying foul and begging for help?
What is these horrific shift patterns you speak of , it always seems to be mentioned when talking of petrol tankers , I’ve done , midnight , 1 am starts , sat , sun years ago , I’m struggling to think what’s worse , daughter who is a nurse goes from nights - long days , weekends etc
I’m just interested what is genuinely so horrific that’s not done on normal lorry/ any jobs ?
Nb when I worked for stobarts I talked to a petrol tanker driver who worked for them , he said it was the best job he’d had , much better than the general job he was on , no mention of horrific shifts
for a start ignoring the hours/shifts issue depending where you are in the country there is a 20k pay difference for doing the same job. and to get its no good complaining that another site 200 miles away gets 20k more than you because you have to be with in a certain distance of the depot to apply for the job.
toonsy:
I read yesterday that Hoyer have been training army guys so is it safe to assume they’d be covering/working on their behalf?
And if so will they be charged for their services?
We’ve all known that subbing out clobbered their terms and conditions, about the horrific shift patterns they have which hardly encourage drivers.
So on the basis that they’ve hardly made it enticing to work for them having cut things to the bone for years, to now be bailed out at essentially taxpayers expense seems to go against the messaging of encouraging industry to resolve its in crisis. If there’s no penalty then what’s to stop the next critical sectors along, say food, crying foul and begging for help?
What is these horrific shift patterns you speak of , it always seems to be mentioned when talking of petrol tankers , I’ve done , midnight , 1 am starts , sat , sun years ago , I’m struggling to think what’s worse , daughter who is a nurse goes from nights - long days , weekends etc
I’m just interested what is genuinely so horrific that’s not done on normal lorry/ any jobs ?
Nb when I worked for stobarts I talked to a petrol tanker driver who worked for them , he said it was the best job he’d had , much better than the general job he was on , no mention of horrific shifts
It’s been posted on here before many times about Hoyer. Days and nights mixed together, no set pattern (even if that pattern is say 1am starts daily, it’s a pattern), plus things like deductions for traffic delays that they used to partake of etc etc.
As said it seems to be Hoyer that are struggling. Why is that? And if they’re getting bailed out by the army because they can’t attract drivers maybe it’s time for them to look inwards at why? And also to stump up for outside help such as from the army which we all contributed to through our taxes.[/ph quote]
I see , I just couldn’t think of any shifts that were a lot different to a lot of general work
lolipop:
Has anybody else noticed that the only tanker outfit being shown on the TV as being short of Drivers,is HOYER does that not tell us anything about what sort of outfit they are likely to work for. Nothing showing of Wincanton or DHL
I work for Hoyer at Purfleet and I’ve been talking to these army lads. They reckon there ar soldiers helping on loads of tanker companies, not just Hoyer.
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A pay scheme that provide competitive earnings
Company pension scheme
Premium truck brands and equipment
Industry leading training with comprehensive induction and support
Uniform and PPE equipment
I’m
confused as to why you must live within an hours commute of your job . Surely thats not their decision but yours in how far you are willing to travel . Or is is it that they want you available at the drop of a hat if others don’t turn up for their shifts ?
beefy4605:
I’m
confused as to why you must live within an hours commute of your job . Surely thats not their decision but yours in how far you are willing to travel . Or is is it that they want you available at the drop of a hat if others don’t turn up for their shifts ?
more like so you cant complain when someone else is on 20k a year more than you for doing the same job and hours
beefy4605:
I’m
confused as to why you must live within an hours commute of your job . Surely thats not their decision but yours in how far you are willing to travel . Or is is it that they want you available at the drop of a hat if others don’t turn up for their shifts ?
I have worked for a company with this stipulation. It’s because on a day when you’re stood down on standby, you’re available if needed.
