HOW TO: Zip merging

I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

This guy has the right idea. :laughing:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Carryfast:

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Yawn, they don’t cause the traffic jam. if you sheeple wernt sniffing the arse of the car in front then maybe, just maybe people wouldn’t have to run up to the cones and wait for someone to stop and let them in.
Have a read of the highway code, you could learn quite a bit, start off with the overtaking and safety gap bits.

bubsy06:

Carryfast:

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Yawn, they don’t cause the traffic jam. if you sheeple wernt sniffing the arse of the car in front then maybe, just maybe people wouldn’t have to run up to the cones and wait for someone to stop and let them in.
Have a read of the highway code, you could learn quite a bit, start off with the overtaking and safety gap bits.

Did’nt say anything about not leaving sufficient space for merging traffic.Make your mind up now you’re saying that it’s right to merge early but if you’ve left it too late you’ll just blame running out of road on some tailgating bs. :unamused:

Carryfast:

bubsy06:

Carryfast:

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Yawn, they don’t cause the traffic jam. if you sheeple wernt sniffing the arse of the car in front then maybe, just maybe people wouldn’t have to run up to the cones and wait for someone to stop and let them in.
Have a read of the highway code, you could learn quite a bit, start off with the overtaking and safety gap bits.

Did’nt say anything about not leaving sufficient space for merging traffic.Make your mind up now you’re saying that it’s right to merge early but if you’ve left it too late you’ll just blame running out of road on some tailgating bs. :unamused:

WTF■■? Im saying that people cant merge late because there is no space to merge, thats why people run up to the cones. People using the closing lane would prefer not to have to stop at the cones but they have no choice because they have nowhere to go.

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

This guy has the right idea. :laughing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bp4X3B0IB0

Great video …not only does he look a bit like coffeeholic it sounds like him to only in a Scottish accent . Myself and neil have been saying exactly the same thing for ages !
Infact the next time a get a S.A.R.P i will drag them from there vehicle and disembowel them with a wooden cooking spoon!

At last Zip merging made interesting.

Carryfast:

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You’ve had reasoned argument against you throughout the thread but you just wont listen thats why you’re an arse.

You simply have no understanding that the number of vehicles using two lanes cannot suddenly fit into one lane on our CONGESTED roads, they cannot maintain their speed they have to slow down.

You even get traffic queues when the number of lanes stays the same, nobody changes lane then, just someone touches the brakes and a queue forms. This is just an inevitable fact of our overcrowded roads.

Under you’re rule when a SARP stops people in lane 2 using the road properly lane 1 should race off into the distance, but it doesn’t does it, thats because you have at that point too many cars trying to fit into the same piece of road.

The real fact is that in the real world during the DAYTIME there are too many vehicles on the road, that means that when 2 lanes become 1 the gaps will reduce therefore speed MUST reduce (unless as you’re theory suggests that to run at full speed at half even a third of the gap is perfectly ok) therefore queues WILL form, therefore to stop the queues becoming too long ALL AVAILABLE LANES MUST BE USED. This slowing of traffic speed has not been caused by an individual driver, it has been caused by too many vehicles trying to fit into an amount of tarmac that has been at least halved by the number of lanes being reduced.

At night when the roads are not congested, contraflows work perfectly and no-one is held up, even those who leave it to change lanes where the cones begin (except the M25 which can be congested at 3am).

This has been explained to you before but you seem too thick headed to even consider that it may be true.

If there is anything you don’t understand about the fact that a certain number of vehicles can only fit onto a certain amount of tarmac then I honestly believe that you should not be driving.
(edited for tired English, I still only know that the argument may be all that makes sense). :laughing:

Here ya go curryfart, see how the cars merging from the right don’t have to stop and wait by the picture of the bear because there is space to merge.

youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=0zHy0HfT8sQ

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

schrodingers cat:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
I have just sailed through a set of roadworks on the M1, straight to the front, a kind bloke flashed his lights and waved at me as I merged in, simple, it must be because everyone else is arguing on here how to do properly.

No the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly :bulb: .You would’nt be going ‘straight to the front’ of anywhere if everyone took the advice of the last second zip mergers because all the lanes would be full of the same amount of crawling traffic. :unamused: :laughing:

Carryfast your an arse…

Does this qualify to get the thread blocked PLEASE!!!

That’s just the type of reasoned argument that I’d expect from the ‘let’s all drive up to the cones in a closed lane and cause a zb traffic jam’ lot. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You’ve had reasoned argument against you throughout the thread but you just wont listen thats why you’re an arse.

You simply have no understanding that the number of vehicles using two lanes cannot suddenly fit into one lane on our CONGESTED roads, they cannot maintain their speed they have to slow down.

You even get traffic queues when the number of lanes stays the same, nobody changes lane then, just someone touches the brakes and a queue forms. This is just an inevitable fact of our overcrowded roads.

Under you’re rule when a SARP stops people in lane 2 using the road properly lane 1 should race off into the distance, but it doesn’t does it, thats because you have at that point too many cars trying to fit into the same piece of road.

The real fact is that in the real world during the DAYTIME there are too many vehicles on the road, that means that when 2 lanes become 1 the gaps will reduce therefore speed MUST reduce (unless as you’re theory suggests that to run at full speed at half even a third of the gap is perfectly ok) therefore queues WILL form, therefore to stop the queues becoming too long ALL AVAILABLE LANES MUST BE USED. This slowing of traffic speed has not been caused by an individual driver, it has been caused by too many vehicles trying to fit into an amount of tarmac that has been at least halved by the number of lanes being reduced.

At night when the roads are not congested, contraflows work perfectly and no-one is held up, even those who leave it to change lanes where the cones begin (except the M25 which can be congested at 3am).

This has been explained to you before but you seem too thick headed to even consider that it may be true.

If there is anything you don’t understand about the fact that a certain number of vehicles can only fit onto a certain amount of tarmac then I honestly believe that you should not be driving.
(edited for tired English, I still only know that the argument may be all that makes sense). :laughing:

Sounds to me just like the type of bs that any learner driver,who has’nt got a clue of the meaning of lane discipline,in which lanes 2,3,4 of a motorway are for overtaking only,not for extra capacity,wether it’s daytime or nightime,would come out with.The only reason why motorways get congested is because of idiots who for example ,as you said,hit their brakes for no reason (usually because they have’nt got a clue as to how to run at a constant speed and maintain seperation distances even if it is heavy traffic conditions) and who think that they should use all lanes regardless of wether they are overtaking or not and regardless of wether those 'overtaking ‘only’ lanes are closing up ahead.

But you’re right two,or more,lanes of traffic can’t ‘suddenly’ merge into one which is why I’ve been saying that it’s better to start merging a lot further back from the closure than the 800 yds or less that the wicket signs are presently put out at. :bulb:

But usually it’s those idiots who think that it can all be left until the last 10 seconds,or less, who’d also be stupid enough to do exactly the same thing when they’re overtaking on a dual carriageway where it merges into a single carriageway. :open_mouth: :unamused: .

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
‘…I have just sailed through…’

‘…the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly…’

Then reflect on why are lane closure signs repeated on both sides of the carriageway leading up to the cones? Maybe to help the visually impaired; possibly to prompt those that forget easy or perhaps so that both/all lanes can be communicated with :open_mouth:

Happy Keith:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
‘…I have just sailed through…’

‘…the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly…’

Then reflect on why are lane closure signs repeated on both sides of the carriageway leading up to the cones? Maybe to help the visually impaired; possibly to prompt those that forget easy or perhaps so that both/all lanes can be communicated with :open_mouth:

There’s no argument about the need for communication and to merge the argument is that I’m saying that it can be done more safely and at higher speeds if it’s done a lot further away from the closure than the 800 yds or less that the signs inform us of.

Carryfast:

Happy Keith:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
‘…I have just sailed through…’

‘…the reason why you could go ‘straight to the front’ and then merge at the last second was because everyone else was doing it properly…’

Then reflect on why are lane closure signs repeated on both sides of the carriageway leading up to the cones? Maybe to help the visually impaired; possibly to prompt those that forget easy or perhaps so that both/all lanes can be communicated with :open_mouth:

There’s no argument about the need for communication and to merge the argument is that I’m saying that it can be done more safely and at higher speeds if it’s done a lot further away from the closure than the 800 yds or less that the signs inform us of.

It can also be done within the 800 yds if the sheeple in lane 1 left some space, as the video i posted above shows

bubsy06:
Here ya go curryfart, see how the cars merging from the right don’t have to stop and wait by the picture of the bear because there is space to merge.

youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=0zHy0HfT8sQ

Thankyou :laughing:

You know when you go to the supermarket, carryfast is the one at the end of that long queue while people who actually know what they are doing use all the available checkouts, leaving one to join another if that lane is moving quicker. That way you get through quicker without causing any distress to others!

Wheel Nut:
You know when you go to the supermarket, carryfast is the one at the end of that long queue while people who actually know what they are doing use all the available checkouts, leaving one to join another if that lane is moving quicker. That way you get through quicker without causing any distress to others!

How the zb can you use all the ‘available checkouts’ if they’ve closed them all except zb one. :open_mouth: :confused: :laughing: :laughing:

Using your idea everyone would still have to queue up at all the closed ones and then swap over to the one remaining open one when they as they reach the front of the queue in each. :open_mouth: :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

But in general the speed of traffic merging on a motorway using ROG’s number 1 idea is a lot faster than the speed which they can move a queue at the supermarket.If you don’t believe it just stand there and take my money at the Dartford crossing and leave the gate open as I drive straight through at 50-60 mph. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Jesus is this still going round and round! Good work chaps keep it up.

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