Jenson Button:
I was supposed to be off all week with the kids, but have had to work Sunday and Monday, I have been given today off, and dad has just told me he wants me on a job tomorrow.
Look for a new dad 
tachograph:
ROG:
The legal answer is:-From finishing one full or reduced weekly rest to starting the next full or reduced weekly rest the maximum hours between those can be 144
As long as all other rules are complied with between those weekly rests then the driver is free to use those hours as they wish
I could not think of better way of putting it but if you can then feel free 
ROG:
tachograph:
ROG:
The legal answer is:-From finishing one full or reduced weekly rest to starting the next full or reduced weekly rest the maximum hours between those can be 144
As long as all other rules are complied with between those weekly rests then the driver is free to use those hours as they wish
I could not think of better way of putting it but if you can then feel free
I feel free !! Its better to repeat just what it saysā¦you must take a weekly rest period after no more than six, twenty four hour periods. 
Mike-C:
you must take a weekly rest period after no more than six, twenty four hour periods.
As 6 X 24 = 144 then that is longer than the way I said it
Iād use that day to maybe wash the car, hang the picture she keeps going on about, mow the lawn if its dry.
ROG:
Mike-C:
you must take a weekly rest period after no more than six, twenty four hour periods.As 6 X 24 = 144 then that is longer than the way I said it
Iāll humour you, iām bored. Lets seeā¦
Mike-C:
you must take a weekly rest period after no more than six, twenty four hour periods.
ROG:
From finishing one full or reduced weekly rest to starting the next full or reduced weekly rest the maximum hours between those can be 144
Now which one is longer, and iāll take into account that your eyesight is shot and you canāt read computer screens to well, which is why you never made it to a registered instructor? So iāll allow you a leeway of four characters or letters?
Its a multiple choice question too, so as to make it easy for you, hereās the optionsā¦
Which is shorterā¦
A) Yours at more than 100 characters
B) Mine at less than 100 characters
youāre legal to crack on for the next 6 days.
i think the only option available is not to take any more time off. it just confuses things.
Mike-C:
A) Yours at more than 100 characters
B) Mine at less than 100 characters
Mike 1 ROG 0
delboytwo:
the 24 hour rest you say is not counted as you know you canāt count two rest in one week do the maths if a driver works for 6 24 hours there must start a full or reduced rest, as the driver already did a reduced rest this one would have to be 45 hours
The OP has had a full weekly rest at the weekend, but states he worked on Sunday and therefore that full weekly rest must be counting for the week ending Sunday 28/10/2012.
So if this week he has one or more reduced weekly rests (perhaps one yesterday/today and then another at the weekend), he next needs a full weekly rest that will count for week ending Sunday 11/11/2012. For a rest to count for this week it does not need to all be in this week but it must start in this week and therefore must start by 23h59 on Sunday 11/11/2012.
Which is a long way of saying āROG is rightā.
Paul
Jenson Button:
I was supposed to be off all week with the kids, but have had to work SundayI wouldnāt worry about it too much tbh, after all once Brazil is out of the way youāll have a few months off work. Plus, the way itās going Vettel will sew it up again so you could actually just finish work now if you so desire.
so thenā¦is this right
i start work on sunday 28/10 at 1700 after a weekly rest of 36 hours
sun 28/10 1700-0630
mon 29/10 1530-0500
wed 31/10 1100-0000
do i have to start a full weekly rest by 1700 on sat 3/11 
even though i will prbably only have worked 5 shifts
if i was to work
thur 1/11 1100-2300
fri 2/11 1100- 2300
sat 3/11 1100-2300
would this be illegalā¦even though i have only worked 6 shifts inbetween weekly rests
commonrail:
so thenā¦is this righti start work on sunday 28/10 at 1700 after a weekly rest of 36 hours
sun 28/10 1700-0630
mon 29/10 1530-0500
wed 31/10 1100-0000do i have to start a full weekly rest by 1700 on sat 3/11
No because if Iām understanding correctly you was off work from 05:00 Tuesday to 11:00 Wednesday which is a reduced weekly rest period of 30 hours which allows you to start a new set of six periods of 24 hours (another working week).
However assuming that the 36 hour reduced weekly rest up-to last Sunday was the only weekly rest period you had last week you will need to start a regular 45 hour weekly rest period no later the 23:59 Sunday 4th.
commonrail:
if i was to work
thur 1/11 1100-2300
fri 2/11 1100- 2300
sat 3/11 1100-2300would this be illegalā¦even though i have only worked 6 shifts inbetween weekly rests
Thatās perfectly legal because you had a reduced weekly rest period on Tuesday/Wednesday (No compensation is needed for that) so you can now work until just before midnight on Sunday if you wish, but to stay legal you must start a regular 45 hour weekly rest period then which will count for this week.
As I said this reply is based on the assumption that you did not have a regular 45 hour weekly rest period last week as well as the reduced weekly rest period.
I will try and explain how my thinking works when looking at this type of issue - that may or may not help you 
I take each rule as a seperate issue so think about each rule one at a time without considering the other rules
I then see whether a rule has been complied with or what has to be done to comply with each rule
Certain knowledge has to be know in advance
My weekly rest prior to the 36 started at 0400 on thur 18/10 and ended on sun 21/10 at 1500
commonrail:
My weekly rest prior to the 36 started at 0400 on thur 18/10 and ended on sun 21/10 at 1500
In that case you need to have a regular 45 hour weekly rest period this week starting no later than 23:59 Sunday, but it looks like youāre finishing at 23:00 Saturday so you will need to be off until at-least 20:00 Monday.
You have 9 hours compensation to be paid back by midnight Sunday 18th November, the compensation can be paid back by adding it onto any rest period of at-least 9 hours.
thanx for your time everyoneā¦the penny IS starting to drop,although i may come back to you on this one 
tachograph:
No because if Iām understanding correctly you was off work from 05:00 Tuesday to 11:00 Wednesday which is a reduced weekly rest period of 30 hours which allows you to start a new set of six periods of 24 hours (another working week).However assuming that the 36 hour reduced weekly rest up-to last Sunday was the only weekly rest period you had last week you will need to start a regular 45 hour weekly rest period no later the 23:59 Sunday 4th.
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soā¦if my reducer gives me another working week(144 hours),why do i need to start a full rest by 2359 on sunday rather than 1100 on tue 6/5.
is it something to do with fixed weeks
stick with itā¦i`m nearly there
commonrail:
soā¦if my reducer gives me another working week(144 hours),why do i need to start a full rest by 2359 on sunday rather than 1100 on tue 6/5.
is it something to do with fixed weeks
Yes it is to do with fixed weeks.
As in the previous fixed week there had not been a full weekly rest (the rest was only 36h), you need to have a full weekly rest that will count for this week.
To get it to count for this week you must start it before the end of the week, and as the end of the week is midnight Sunday you need to start the rest by 23h59 Sunday for it to count.
Paul
I reckon the penny has dropped as you mentioned the one thing (fixed week) that was pertinent
commonrail:
soā¦if my reducer gives me another working week(144 hours),why do i need to start a full rest by 2359 on sunday rather than 1100 on tue 6/5.
is it something to do with fixed weeks
Spot on, you cannot legally go 2 consecutive weeks (fixed weeks) without a regular 45 hour weekly rest period counting for at-least one of the weeks, as repton said the week ends at midnight Sunday so you must start a regular weekly rest period before then.
As you know a weekly rest period that crosses over two weeks (Sunday/Monday) can count for either week but not for both, if you start a full weekly rest period just before midnight Sunday it can count for this week even if only the first minute of the rest period is in this fixed week.