limeyphil:
a few blokes on facebook reckon that if you work 13 hours and take 9 off, it counts as a 15.
how do you explain in simple terms that they’re talking [zb]?
You can’t because they’re not wrong because in a fixed 24hr period you’ll only have had 9hrs off and done 15hrs duty.
00:00 to 13:00 you’re working. So that’s 13hrs.
13:00 to 22:00 you’re on daily rest.
22:00 to 24:00 you’re working. So that’s an additional 2hrs making 15hrs in total in the fixed 24hr period.
Wrap the ■■■■ up you Jebend
DrivingMissDaisy:
limeyphil:
a few blokes on facebook reckon that if you work 13 hours and take 9 off, it counts as a 15.
how do you explain in simple terms that they’re talking [zb]?It counts as a reduction and that’s what matters. You’ve got 2 left in the fixed week. Effectively you have used 1 of your potential 15s.
Wrong!
You have 2 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods left, nothing to do with fixed weeks.
and you all call yourselfs professional drivers.
a daily tacho period is 24 hours which means that if you work anything under 13 hours and have a 9 hour rest then it is counted as a 15.
NewLad:
DrivingMissDaisy:
limeyphil:
a few blokes on facebook reckon that if you work 13 hours and take 9 off, it counts as a 15.
how do you explain in simple terms that they’re talking [zb]?It counts as a reduction and that’s what matters. You’ve got 2 left in the fixed week. Effectively you have used 1 of your potential 15s.
Wrong!
You have 2 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods left, nothing to do with fixed weeks.
Sorry New Lad, you can reduce daily rest 3 times between 2 weekly rest periods. You can only do two 10 hour max drives per week.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … europe.pdf
Read page 18 for the 10 hour drives, and 20 for reduced rests. Loads of people get these mixed up!
NewLad:
DrivingMissDaisy:
limeyphil:
a few blokes on facebook reckon that if you work 13 hours and take 9 off, it counts as a 15.
how do you explain in simple terms that they’re talking [zb]?It counts as a reduction and that’s what matters. You’ve got 2 left in the fixed week. Effectively you have used 1 of your potential 15s.
Wrong!
You have 2 reduced daily rest periods between weekly rest periods left, nothing to do with fixed weeks.
Right and wrong! Slip of the finger you’re right regarding the between weekly rests! 
Wrong in that you can do 3! We’ll get there together! 
lizard:
and you all call yourselfs professional drivers.
a daily tacho period is 24 hours which means that if you work anything under 13 hours and have a 9 hour rest then it is counted as a 15.
If i did hourly pay, I’d love to tell the boss. I know i’ve done 13 hours work, but you have to pay me for 15 hours 
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if you work for 13, 10, or 8 hours, it’s counts as just that.
limeyphil:
lizard:
and you all call yourselfs professional drivers.
a daily tacho period is 24 hours which means that if you work anything under 13 hours and have a 9 hour rest then it is counted as a 15.If i did hourly pay, I’d love to tell the boss. I know i’ve done 13 hours work, but you have to pay me for 15 hours
if you work for 13, 10, or 8 hours, it’s counts as just that.
Phil, nowhere in the rules does it say anything about a 15 hour day. All it says is (and I’m paraphrasing) a daily rest is 11 hours. Anything less is counted as a reduced rest, of which you’re allowed 3 between weekly rest periods.
Conor will be along soon pointing out that this is why the dcpc exists 
From what I remember you can only use the 9 hour break twice a week after working 15 ?
DaiDap:
Phil, nowhere in the rules does it say anything about a 15 hour day. All it says is (and I’m paraphrasing) a daily rest is 11 hours. Anything less is counted as a reduced rest, of which you’re allowed 3 between weekly rest periods.
Don’t forget the split daily rest 3h + 9h.
Pat Hasler:
From what I remember you can only use the 9 hour break twice a week after working 15 ?
it’s 3 times per week. and you can work 4, 10, 13 and 15 hours before taking a rest of 9, 11 or whatever hours.
limeyphil:
it’s 3 times per week.
No, it’s 3 times “between weekly rests”. It’s quite different from a “week”.
Why do we have to do this DCPC crap again■■?
Oh yeah
The rules are very simple. It’s the MMTM and the bickering that make it difficult.
3 reduced dailies between weeklies
2 10 hour drives in the same period
Any odds on the number of pages limey manages to squeeze out of this ■■■■■■■■■■? 
STOP.
LETS GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
right its this simple numb skulls.
your shift is 24 hours long.
so if you start at 7am on monday you have to be finished no later than 7am the following sunday which gives you 6 shifts.
so you start at 7am on Monday and your first shift ends at 7am on tuesday. if you work until 8pm (13 hours) and you choose to have a reduced break of 9 hours then means that you have 2 hours left of your 24 hour shift which means you can start again at 5am on Tuesday but you lose the 2 hours of your first shift which means you’ve used a 15 on day 1.
so now all poddle off and speak to people that actually knows what im going on about and that doesn’t include your management because they know ■■■■ all.
you will find that im right and you will thank me for pointing you in the right direction.
Tipper Tom:
The rules are very simple. It’s the MMTM and the bickering that make it difficult.3 reduced dailies between weeklies
2 10 hour drives in the same period
Its not the same period for 10 hour drives. They are per week.
limeyphil:
and you can work 4, 10, 13 and 15 hours before taking a rest of 9, 11 or whatever hours.
if you are on duty more than 13h, your daily rest will be reduced - count as a 9h rest, doesn’t matter if you have a rest of 9h and 1 min or 19 hours.