If you were driving an 18t vehicle with 8 palets weight of 6ton and all had to be handballed and was a mix of boxes and kitchen worktops and also had to park 100yards from door to persons home how long do you think it should logically take.
There were 2 of us as distance it made it multi manned.
No tail lift was used to parking location and as 18t curtain sided was high off the ground items had to be opened up on palet then lowered down to ground level then taken to room in house. No pallet truck or sack barrow, everything manually handled.
(it was on saturday in outer london so mega warm so we were drained of energy quickly plus in steel boots, jeans and polo shirt (no shorts))
It took the two of us 5 hours to offload the goods.
My employer is livid as he said it should only have taken 2 hours.
the two of us were average persons not strong body builders that can take loads of weight easily.
It’s a fact that someone in the office can always do a job quicker. 5 hours does seem quite a long time but, without being there and knowing all the circumstances, I’m certainly not being critical.
Pete 
Peter Smythe:
It’s a fact that someone in the office can always do a job quicker. 5 hours does seem quite a long time but, without being there and knowing all the circumstances, I’m certainly not being critical.Pete
agree some can do quicker, but was a combination of amount of stuff, the heat and location of vehicle and all done by hand. We stopped every now and then for 2 or 3 minutes breathers but never stopped in all that time except for a quick 20 minute food break.
stevenwignet:
If you were driving an 18t vehicle with 8 palets weight of 6ton and all had to be handballed and was a mix of boxes and kitchen worktops and also had to park 100yards from door to persons home how long do you think it should logically take.
There were 2 of us as distance it made it multi manned.
No tail lift was used to parking location and as 18t curtain sided was high off the ground items had to be opened up on palet then lowered down to ground level then taken to room in house. No pallet truck or sack barrow, everything manually handled.
(it was on saturday in outer london so mega warm so we were drained of energy quickly plus in steel boots, jeans and polo shirt (no shorts))
It took the two of us 5 hours to offload the goods.
My employer is livid as he said it should only have taken 2 hours.
the two of us were average persons not strong body builders that can take loads of weight easily.
Was that on the Magnet contract ? 5 hrs does seem rather long then 100 yds is a fair distance to carry stuff. Rather you than me.
bald bloke:
stevenwignet:
If you were driving an 18t vehicle with 8 palets weight of 6ton and all had to be handballed and was a mix of boxes and kitchen worktops and also had to park 100yards from door to persons home how long do you think it should logically take.
There were 2 of us as distance it made it multi manned.
No tail lift was used to parking location and as 18t curtain sided was high off the ground items had to be opened up on palet then lowered down to ground level then taken to room in house. No pallet truck or sack barrow, everything manually handled.
(it was on saturday in outer london so mega warm so we were drained of energy quickly plus in steel boots, jeans and polo shirt (no shorts))
It took the two of us 5 hours to offload the goods.
My employer is livid as he said it should only have taken 2 hours.
the two of us were average persons not strong body builders that can take loads of weight easily.Was that on the Magnet contract ? 5 hrs does seem rather long then 100 yds is a fair distance to carry stuff. Rather you than me.
Not magnet but a lesser known company that claims to deal in high end quiality kitchens/bathrooms/bedrooms but in reality is just plastic covered mdf but inflated prices. (think Vance Miller but not as dodgy!)
It was well over 300 items and weighed 6.7ton when all added up
we probably took about 1 hour break all together when added up, 20 mins lunch and rest breaks to get breath back and get fluids back in body. Was a real; back breaking delivery. they had expected us to take each item to one of several rooms over 3 floors but as no flat number was given room was unidentifiable so all put on ground floor, i would hate to guess how long to take offload and walk up loads narrow stairs to place goods if we had done that
stevenwignet:
we probably took about 1 hour break all together when added up, 20 mins lunch and rest breaks to get breath back and get fluids back in body.
How much of that five hours was really spent sitting down, wagging chins and drinking cans of pop though?
Contraflow:
stevenwignet:
we probably took about 1 hour break all together when added up, 20 mins lunch and rest breaks to get breath back and get fluids back in body.How much of that five hours was really spent sitting down, wagging chins and drinking cans of pop though?
in space of 5 hours prob just under 1 hour all together with breaks. I wish it was skiving or drinks but not case plus no chatting as person i was with had little understanding of english. If you were moving 6 tonnes of goods by hand you would take breaks too. as for drinks we ran out of fluids quite quickly as location was in middle of nowhere and no water supply or shops nearby.
Think people are not taking into account just hot it was on saterday. Heat like that is brutal when doing manual labour, ■■■■ even some sas trainees died hiking the Brecon Beacons Saturday, 6.5 tonn is just over ton moved an hour ruffly devided by 2 of you is half a ton each an hour, half a ton is aprox 500kg, legally max lifted carry weight is 25 kg a trip so say 4 trips of 25kgs of stuff ruffly = 100kg, so 20 trips would = about half ton carried. So 200 to 240 odds trips from lorry to property. Walk 100 yards in about Minet x both ways so 2 mins x 200 trips = 200 minets is about 3 hours just in walking there and back not counting unpacking, lowering and resting of food and drinking water. I’d say on a average temp day or cold day 3 hours is about right. 2 hours is doable but only a ■■■■■■ would slave drive others to keep that kind of pace even on a cold day. and wouldn’t be worth working for if that’s what your boss is like I would be looking for somewhere new to work. 5 hours on an avarge temp day would be taking the ■■■■ thow. I say 5 hours in heat like that is a fair shout. Many would have jacked it in and refused to carry on in that kind of sweltering heat.
stevenwignet:
If you were driving an 18t vehicle with 8 palets weight of 6ton and all had to be handballed and was a mix of boxes and kitchen worktops and also had to park 100yards from door to persons home how long do you think it should logically take.
There were 2 of us as distance it made it multi manned.
No tail lift was used to parking location and as 18t curtain sided was high off the ground items had to be opened up on palet then lowered down to ground level then taken to room in house. No pallet truck or sack barrow, everything manually handled.
(it was on saturday in outer london so mega warm so we were drained of energy quickly plus in steel boots, jeans and polo shirt (no shorts))
It took the two of us 5 hours to offload the goods.
My employer is livid as he said it should only have taken 2 hours.
the two of us were average persons not strong body builders that can take loads of weight easily.
Can’t say for sure, but probably less than the time you took. I’ve been doing much the same thing for the past 9 weeks, up to 18 drops a day, 2 man team, 18t vehicle, none of our drops are anywhere near that weight. As the worktops we deliver are 45kg each, and a typical large drop consists of around 130 items, largest I’ve done so far has been 1400kg, that must have been one hell of a kitchen, bedroom or bathroom (or all 3). How many rooms was it for?
As an example we done a drop today, 900kg bathroom (majority of the weight was ceramic floor tiles), 2nd floor flat, everything up 3 flights of stairs, from where we parked to inside flat was close to the 100yds you mention. It took us just under 50 mins, tiles were 23kg a pack, 2 packs strapped together so 46kg. The temp recorded on the dash on the lorry was shown as 32 degrees, by the time we’d done that drop we’d already done 4 drops and had another 7 to do. Neither me or my porter are strong body builders, as you put it, but we manage to get on with the job and get it done.
Oh, and our uniform is pretty the same as what you were wearing, but we have black polo shirts and combat type trousers, steels etc.
I’m curious as to how big the house was you were delivering to, and what the other boxes were, because 6 tons is lot for kitchens etc, how big was the house, stately home? 
stevenwignet:
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stevenwignet:
we probably took about 1 hour break all together when added up, 20 mins lunch and rest breaks to get breath back and get fluids back in body.How much of that five hours was really spent sitting down, wagging chins and drinking cans of pop though?
in space of 5 hours prob just under 1 hour all together with breaks. I wish it was skiving or drinks but not case plus no chatting as person i was with had little understanding of english. If you were moving 6 tonnes of goods by hand you would take breaks too. as for drinks we ran out of fluids quite quickly as location was in middle of nowhere and no water supply or shops nearby.
You can’t blame anyone for that. You must have been aware of what the temps were going to be that day, should have been prepared.
I’m with your boss on this one. Seriously 6 tonnes in 5 hours you want to man up. I would have done it in the said 2 hour limit. I make it 3 tonne per hour piece off ■■■■ I would have sprinted that 100yards with boxes hanging off my shoulder between my arms and the smaller packs under my chin. Having a twenty minute food break you lazy ■■■■■■■■■ how difficult is it to eat a sandwich whilst carrying a few boxes and as for the 2-3 minute “breather breaks” maybe a few nights In the gym could fix that I wouldn’t need no breather breaks I’d still be running that 100 yards after my 5th tonne. You seem to not appreciate that you have a very lenient boss, mine would off expected that done in an hour and a half absolute tops and do you know what I would off done everything in my powers to achieve that cause I’m a [zb] hero! Maybe the job just isn’t for you if you can’t manage to shift 6 tonne off crap In less than 2 hours when it’s only 33degrees outside then maybe your more suited to sitting In that air conditioned office with your boss just sit next to his drinks cabinet you’ll ■■■■■ love it there.
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SuffolkLad:
I’m curious as to how big the house was you were delivering to, and what the other boxes were, because 6 tons is lot for kitchens etc, how big was the house, stately home?
it was an old gate house of a country estate that had been converted into 3 flats. The hall accessess was narrow and stairs were even narrower and 120 degree bends as you go up a floor
it was 3 complete kitchens and 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms,worktops weighed 257kg and there was 3 of them. an average person can lift 25kg and two 80-100kg max , these pushed us to our limits and it was start stop start stop moving them
SuffolkLad:
stevenwignet:
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stevenwignet:
we probably took about 1 hour break all together when added up, 20 mins lunch and rest breaks to get breath back and get fluids back in body.How much of that five hours was really spent sitting down, wagging chins and drinking cans of pop though?
in space of 5 hours prob just under 1 hour all together with breaks. I wish it was skiving or drinks but not case plus no chatting as person i was with had little understanding of english. If you were moving 6 tonnes of goods by hand you would take breaks too. as for drinks we ran out of fluids quite quickly as location was in middle of nowhere and no water supply or shops nearby.
You can’t blame anyone for that. You must have been aware of what the temps were going to be that day, should have been prepared.
we had 3 x 2lt bottles of water each but quickly went though them, saturday was a killer for heat
Karl86:
Having a twenty minute food break you lazy [zb],
well i am allowed a legal break for sanity sake plus WTD says i need a break.
Karl86:
I’m with your boss on this one. Seriously 6 tonnes in 5 hours you want to man up. I would have done it in the said 2 hour limit. I make it 3 tonne per hour piece off ■■■■ I would have sprinted that 100yards with boxes hanging off my shoulder between my arms and the smaller packs under my chin. Having a twenty minute food break you lazy [zb], how difficult is it to eat a sandwich whilst carrying a few boxes and as for the 2-3 minute “breather breaks” maybe a few nights In the gym could fix that I wouldn’t need no breather breaks I’d still be running that 100 yards after my 5th tonne. You seem to not appreciate that you have a very lenient boss, mine would off expected that done in an hour and a half absolute tops and do you know what I would off done everything in my powers to achieve that cause I’m a [zb] hero! Maybe the job just isn’t for you if you can’t manage to shift 6 tonne off crap In less than 2 hours when it’s only 33degrees outside then maybe your more suited to sitting In that air conditioned office with your boss just sit next to his drinks cabinet you’ll (zb) love it there.
2 hours, would have done it in under 60 minutes , 100KG a minute up the stairs and a 4 mile run back and forth on the flat.
Karl86:
I’m with your boss on this one. Seriously 6 tonnes in 5 hours you want to man up. I would have done it in the said 2 hour limit. I make it 3 tonne per hour piece off ■■■■ I would have sprinted that 100yards with boxes hanging off my shoulder between my arms and the smaller packs under my chin. Having a twenty minute food break you lazy [zb], how difficult is it to eat a sandwich whilst carrying a few boxes and as for the 2-3 minute “breather breaks” maybe a few nights In the gym could fix that I wouldn’t need no breather breaks I’d still be running that 100 yards after my 5th tonne. You seem to not appreciate that you have a very lenient boss, mine would off expected that done in an hour and a half absolute tops and do you know what I would off done everything in my powers to achieve that cause I’m a [zb] hero! Maybe the job just isn’t for you if you can’t manage to shift 6 tonne off crap In less than 2 hours when it’s only 33degrees outside then maybe your more suited to sitting In that air conditioned office with your boss just sit next to his drinks cabinet you’ll (zb) love it there.
Funniest thing I’ve read on here for a while
If you’re not used to heavy lifting it takes a while to build up the required strength and technique for what you’re carrying.
I’ve worked with many an agency guy on home deliveries when they moan about the weight of the delivery and their backs and watched them sweat buckets.
They’re just not used to it.
It’s best not to rush if you’re not used to it too, accidents happen.
Broken goods, fingers etc.
stevenwignet:
SuffolkLad:
I’m curious as to how big the house was you were delivering to, and what the other boxes were, because 6 tons is lot for kitchens etc, how big was the house, stately home?it was an old gate house of a country estate that had been converted into 3 flats. The hall accessess was narrow and stairs were even narrower and 120 degree bends as you go up a floor
it was 3 complete kitchens and 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms,worktops weighed 257kg and there was 3 of them. an average person can lift 25kg and two 80-100kg max , these pushed us to our limits and it was start stop start stop moving them
So, what were these worktops made from? Because the usual chipboard stuff we deliver is 45kg, solid wooden ones I’ve done have been upto 90kg, never done granite so can’t comment on them, but 257kg? And you had a wagon with no tail lift, how did you get them off the wagon? Then carry them into the house, sorry to say but I can smell bull, or you’ve been using some poetic licence.
stevenwignet:
If you were driving an 18t vehicle with 8 palets weight of 6ton and all had to be handballed and was a mix of boxes and kitchen worktops and also had to park 100yards from door to persons home how long do you think it should logically take.
There were 2 of us as distance it made it multi manned.
No tail lift was used to parking location and as 18t curtain sided was high off the ground items had to be opened up on palet then lowered down to ground level then taken to room in house. No pallet truck or sack barrow, everything manually handled.
(it was on saturday in outer london so mega warm so we were drained of energy quickly plus in steel boots, jeans and polo shirt (no shorts))
It took the two of us 5 hours to offload the goods.
My employer is livid as he said it should only have taken 2 hours.
the two of us were average persons not strong body builders that can take loads of weight easily.
Too many mugs in this game. ( yes, predictable as ever, Luke).
Should have taken it back, notes marked “delivery address inaccessible” and let them sort it out. No ■■■■■■■ way you’d get me doing that kind of ■■■■ even if you offered me £100/hr. If it doesn’t come off on a FLT or loading bay then it doesn’t go.