http://www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2010/07/27/136572/ukba-forces-driver-to-sleep-rough.htm
Just found the above news story, they should not be making a driver homeless overnight totally wrong, in fact they don’t even use the money they steal off drivers/companies to return them to their homeland The sneaky (zb’s) who hide in your load on/under your truck get to stay hear courtesy of the tax payer, the clandestines(zb’s) know this the laws need changing, no more land of milk & honey all should be no longer welcome, treated exactly the same as they get treated in the rest of the eu,
Leonard McKinna, who drives for D&M Fraser of Kirkpatrick Durham in Dumfries & Galloway, was not the driver in the original dispute that occurred when 20 stowaways were found in one of D&M Fraser’s trucks last year.
McKinna asked UKBA to be allowed to stay with his vehicle after it was held at 2pm in the afternoon, but UKBA refused, even though McKinna told officers that the vehicle was his home when on the road. Unable to find a hotel room and not allowed back into the vehicle until 2pm the next day, McKinna spent the night sleeping rough.
I don’t drive a truck any more and I doubt I ever will again, we are just treated like dirt.
that report says he wasnt the driver when they found immigrants in the truck 
dazaster:
that report says he wasnt the driver when they found immigrants in the truck
I noticed that,it also don’t tell us what happened to the first driver, but even as such any replacement driver should of been able to of stayed in the vehicle, after all it will of been in a secure locked compound,they could of even just released the tractor unit and held the trailer/load ransom, no need to be (zb’s ) about it
I would think there is a hell of a case that could come out of this. It just goes to prove that the UKBA or whatever they call themselves now, are simply not doing their jobs, and are treating people as if they were worthless. Just imagine if the driver had been hurt or, God forbid, killed.
Personally, I shall email these morons to voice my distaste. I would suggest you do the same.
I sent this
http://www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2010/07/27/136572/ukba-forces-driver-to-sleep-rough.htm
I have read this, and my anger is such that I feel compelled to write to you about it. This kind of nonsense is the exact reason people no longer cooperate with you. This is why you are considered lower than the illegals who smuggle themselves onto our vehicles. You use ridiculous excuses, you allege that we, as drivers, are paid off to bring illegals in, yet I have never seen you actively trying to stop the problem. You lie about us, and you will probably lie about this.
I am stunned that your idiot staff would do this to a driver, in particular a driver who they knew had committed no offence. You, as a government body, should be ashamed of yourselves. Every single operative who was there in Dover that day should be terminated and the reasons should be made clear. In truth, they should all be arrested for endangering human life. Knowing Dover as I do, it is not a safe place, yet your idiot staff forced this man to sleep rough? If the account is wrong, then may I suggest you prove it. I would never accept your word without real proof that accommodation was provided. I suspect others will be contacting you, too, so you had better get whatever nonsense you may try to spout straight beforehand.
Before you start prattling about confidentiality, this story is in the public domain. So you can’t let it slide in that way, either. You are despicable, and you should be held to account, as should the idiots there that day. In truth, you are clearly not doing a good job, any of you. Perhaps you should all be fired.
Over the years, I have had several encounters with idiots on your staff, but I have never heard of anything like this. I would not be remaining quiet about it, and I can assure you that, despite it being a stranger in this case, I shall not remain quiet now. I will be blogging the story later and will be diligently searching for follow-up articles and blog those.
Sadly, I can believe this of you. You have become a law unto yourselves. Your border people are another. You name them agencies so you can pass the buck, but that won’t fly in a case like this.
to this address public.enquiries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
There’s an almost Naziness about British officials in recent years, from the CSA hounding people who are paying for their kids until they dress as Batman & jump off of a bridge, through the wheelie bin police nicking people for putting the wrong kind of rubbish in their bin, to VOSA & their zero tolerance towards even the most miniscule ‘defect’ but as I see it only the ‘normal’ people are affected by any of these laws, criminals meanwhile go unhindered in their pursuits & being a muslim is a get out of jail free card, WTF is going on 
i might be getting this wrong ( I do most things 
), but since he wasn’t the driver that came in with the illegals on, where was the original driver? Was it a pre-planned change over of drivers or was he held? If it wasn’t a pre-planned, then to my mind it’s down to the boss. if I had a vehicle impounded, i wouldn’t send a driver down until I knew I could pull the truck out and if it is impounded then i wouldn’t expect ukba to let him stay in the truck anyway. Second thing as a boss, I’d be making sure that i got him a room if he couldn’t find one, even if that meant a suite (done it before ).
I’m not trying to make excuses, I just think there’s a bit more to this than meets the eye at first read. I’d also get the illegals to work sweeping my warehouse and washing trucks until they’d paid ‘their’ fine off 
albion:
i might be getting this wrong ( I do most thingsI’m not trying to make excuses, I just think there’s a bit more to this than meets the eye at first read. I’d also get the illegals to work sweeping my warehouse and washing trucks until they’d paid ‘their’ fine off
it was an ongoing dispute. the original offence happened last year. nothing wharsoever to do with this driver
–bob–:
albion:
i might be getting this wrong ( I do most thingsI’m not trying to make excuses, I just think there’s a bit more to this than meets the eye at first read. I’d also get the illegals to work sweeping my warehouse and washing trucks until they’d paid ‘their’ fine off
it was an ongoing dispute. the original offence happened last year. nothing wharsoever to do with this driver
Is there any chance that the original driver was allowed to proceed as long as the company paid the fine (or whatever) within ■■ days? Company failed their part and this chap was the unlucky one that was next through Dover.
NO I am not trying to protect UKBA and their actions in putting the driver on the street for the night is not the best thing they could have done in this situation.
newmercman:
There’s an almost Naziness about British officials in recent years, through the wheelie bin police nicking people for putting the wrong kind of rubbish in their bin,
Is that the reason that woman is being hounded? She put the cat in the wrong bin 
"–bob:
it was an ongoing dispute. the original offence happened last year. nothing wharsoever to do with this driver
Thanks makes it a bit clearer. Still think his firm should have sorted him out.
The driver should have lamped one on the border agency guard…at least then he would have got a bed for the night 
The UKBA are just jumped up jobsworths. I took a photograph of one who was giving me some grief and had snatched my documents while I was collecting a trailer in Calais docks. I wanted the photo to accompany the official complaint. This resulted in a stand off with at least 15 agency staff that lasted about 2 hours. It was only resolved when they called the CRS and he grabbed my phone and they “persuaded” me to delete the photo.
I think the only reason she objected to the photo was because she was a fat ugly cow. I wonder how many illegals got into the UK while they were being so stupid and holding me hostage.
Easy solution. Refuse to leave the vehicle/premises so there is either a stand off or you get arrested and either way you have a roof over your head and a bed for the night. Sorted.
Coffee, you were close to how I would have reacted, but you, Semtex, had exactloy the same thought as I did…
As much as I hate ALL ‘authority’ figures - cops, council officials, HMRC, VOSA, UKBA, PCSOs, banks etc etc, I am with Albion on this one. Why did the gaffer not pay for overnight accom for the driver? What sort of gaffer does that make him? A [zb] one imho.
No question, but it says the driver was unable to find a room, not that he didn’t. In all honesty, the UKBA should not have involved the driver at all. And they should not have impounded the vehicle to force the firm into paying, but should have arrested the driver originally involved. More to the point, why have they waited a year?
If the firm hadn’t paid fines then what is wrong with taking them to court in the usual fashion? If they had been given time to pay and had not done so, how come the management of the firm have not been arrested?
The way they acted is blackmail and demanding money with menaces, and is totally disgraceful. They know that, if it were taken to court then the onus is on UKBA to prove the driver was aware of the illegals in the first place, and they couldn’t have done that or he would have been nicked last year. No, they are bang out of order. As Wheelnut says, they are jobsworths, and they should be fired. I wouldn’t trust them to guard a patch of pavement, let alone an international border.
I agree, Bob. All these authoritive figures these days are not interested in doing the job right, all they sign up for is to get their power-tripping kicks and be able to throw their weight about. [zb]s the lot of them. Makes me laugh when people say they have respect for the police/authority etc. That’s exactly what they want so they can get their kicks but the respect is never reciprocated. They all need treating like the low-life scum that they are. 
In Dover, there has half dozens hotel or cheap guest houses! 
Betz:
In Dover, there has half dozens hotel or cheap guest houses!
But in July they are probably all full