How am I ever going to live THIS down?

NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE)
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simcor:
I’m sorry but it is a ridiculous mistake to make, the nozzle won’t fit, it usually has a sticker saying as blue no diesel and must be an absolute pain in the area to get diesel into the as blue tank.

For god’s sake if you don’t know go and ask someone for help.

Lastly I hope this is a wind up but knowing it has been done at our place sadly I don’t think it is a wind up.

I agree with you that it was a ridiculous mistake. In hindsight I cant believe I overlooked so many warnings. The sticker. Ad blue written on the cap. The fact the nozzle didnt fit.

All I will say is that both on lessons and test there was hardly any mention of ad blue. The “tank” was in the same place as the one I passed my test in so just assumed it was the diesel. Why would I have looked for another tank?

Didnt ask for help as it seemed pretty straight forward. I prefer to figure things out myself in most cases and I do make mistakes and then learn from them. Learn more by doing things myself than being shown.

Not a wind up. Done my second shift last night and had the ■■■■ taken out of me as to be expected but then I am also agency so goes with the territory.

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Priest:
i feel for you mate, i’d say this is another example that the current system of preparing new drivers for the real life is not working really, not that its an excuse thought, learn your lesson and carry on :sunglasses: :unamused: :smiley:

Wasnt shown how to use the tail lift that goes under the truck. Nor how to raise the rear of the truck if on an uneven surface to get the tail lift out. Didnt practice on any curtain sides. Passed my test in a manual but now driving an automatic. No experience on that apart from when doing my class one test. Dont know what half the buttons in the cab do. Wasnt shown how to use a digital tachograph.

Its definitely a lesson well learnt.

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simcor:
I’m really hoping this thread is taking the urea to be honest lol

Nope. It could have been much worse. I could have drove it back to the yard and not realised. Instead I rang the employer and got it sorted. Lesson learnt now.

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lifestartsat40:
The fact the nozzle didnt fit. .

Did you have to get a funnel :smiley: ?

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lifestartsat40:

simcor:
I’m sorry but it is a ridiculous mistake to make, the nozzle won’t fit, it usually has a sticker saying as blue no diesel and must be an absolute pain in the area to get diesel into the as blue tank.

For god’s sake if you don’t know go and ask someone for help.

Lastly I hope this is a wind up but knowing it has been done at our place sadly I don’t think it is a wind up.

I agree with you that it was a ridiculous mistake. In hindsight I cant believe I overlooked so many warnings. The sticker. Ad blue written on the cap. The fact the nozzle didnt fit.

All I will say is that both on lessons and test there was hardly any mention of ad blue. The “tank” was in the same place as the one I passed my test in so just assumed it was the diesel. Why would I have looked for another tank?

Didnt ask for help as it seemed pretty straight forward. I prefer to figure things out myself in most cases and I do make mistakes and then learn from them. Learn more by doing things myself than being shown.

Not a wind up. Done my second shift last night and had the ■■■■ taken out of me as to be expected but then I am also agency so goes with the territory.

You are the truck driver, whether it was in the same place as the white diesel tank as the truck you learnt in is irrelevant. A simple look and oh the nozzle does not fit should have alerted you straight away that something was not right. Therefore you either have a look round or ask someone for help as you don’t know what is wrong. I accept that people are not taught properly about a lot of the things they need to know, but you have to take responsibility to ensure you understand the vehicle and it’s controls etc. If you don’t know what half the button do then ask someone or read the manual if it is available to find out.

Learn in advance and be forearmed and you will have a better chance in work, a lot of places you would be not getting any more work for doing that one mistake so think your self lucky they are giving you further chances.

Go and speak to the TM and ask them for some vehicle familiarisation with the truck and it’s controls rather than just hoping for the best.

I still say putting red into the white or white into the red tank is almost forgivable as people do make genuine mistakes but diesel in the ad blue tank just no. Sorry to be so hard on you but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and say it the way it is.

We have drivers who take no notice of warnings on the dashboard, running out of ad blue because they have not bothered to check it and fill it, and they don’t care it is out of ad blue, it’s not my problem after all, quite a big fine I am led to believe at least for the operator for a truck that has run out of ad blue on the road if stopped and found out. Get your company a big fine for that and do you think they will say oh don’t worry about it we all make mistakes.

Some people just can’t be bothered to take a little more time or care, that is why our 15 plate DAF’s are absolutely battered, I don’t think one of them hasn’t got scrapes and or damage on them, they had reverse sensors on the back , front proximity sensors on the front bumper and yet people still hit stuff and when they don’t work no one defects them to get them fixed.

Maybe I am just a cynical grumpy old git but I like to think I cover ever base in my job and make sure I do it to the best of my ability, even then I make the odd mistake as we are all only human.

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simcor:
You are the truck driver, whether it was in the same place as the white diesel tank as the truck you learnt in is irrelevant. A simple look and oh the nozzle does not fit should have alerted you straight away that something was not right. Therefore you either have a look round or ask someone for help as you don’t know what is wrong. I accept that people are not taught properly about a lot of the things they need to know, but you have to take responsibility to ensure you understand the vehicle and it’s controls etc. If you don’t know what half the button do then ask someone or read the manual if it is available to find out.

Learn in advance and be forearmed and you will have a better chance in work, a lot of places you would be not getting any more work for doing that one mistake so think your self lucky they are giving you further chances.

Go and speak to the TM and ask them for some vehicle familiarisation with the truck and it’s controls rather than just hoping for the best.

I still say putting red into the white or white into the red tank is almost forgivable as people do make genuine mistakes but diesel in the ad blue tank just no. Sorry to be so hard on you but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and say it the way it is.

We have drivers who take no notice of warnings on the dashboard, running out of ad blue because they have not bothered to check it and fill it, and they don’t care it is out of ad blue, it’s not my problem after all, quite a big fine I am led to believe at least for the operator for a truck that has run out of ad blue on the road if stopped and found out. Get your company a big fine for that and do you think they will say oh don’t worry about it we all make mistakes.

Some people just can’t be bothered to take a little more time or care, that is why our 15 plate DAF’s are absolutely battered, I don’t think one of them hasn’t got scrapes and or damage on them, they had reverse sensors on the back , front proximity sensors on the front bumper and yet people still hit stuff and when they don’t work no one defects them to get them fixed.

Maybe I am just a cynical grumpy old git but I like to think I cover ever base in my job and make sure I do it to the best of my ability, even then I make the odd mistake as we are all only human.

Karma will visit you one day my friend …

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As I said I have made mistakes myself but that is not something I have ever done or will do.
Many years ago I put petrol in a truck because I wasn’t paying attention to what I was doing, and who fault was that? Mine because I was not paying enough attention, have I ever done it since? No. Why? Because I felt like a complete ■■■ saying sorry I can’t move my truck as I have put petrol in it.

Most stupid things happen when you are distracted or not paying enough attention.

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simcor:

lifestartsat40:

simcor:
I’m sorry but it is a ridiculous mistake to make, the nozzle won’t fit, it usually has a sticker saying as blue no diesel and must be an absolute pain in the area to get diesel into the as blue tank.

For god’s sake if you don’t know go and ask someone for help.

Lastly I hope this is a wind up but knowing it has been done at our place sadly I don’t think it is a wind up.

I agree with you that it was a ridiculous mistake. In hindsight I cant believe I overlooked so many warnings. The sticker. Ad blue written on the cap. The fact the nozzle didnt fit.

All I will say is that both on lessons and test there was hardly any mention of ad blue. The “tank” was in the same place as the one I passed my test in so just assumed it was the diesel. Why would I have looked for another tank?

Didnt ask for help as it seemed pretty straight forward. I prefer to figure things out myself in most cases and I do make mistakes and then learn from them. Learn more by doing things myself than being shown.

Not a wind up. Done my second shift last night and had the ■■■■ taken out of me as to be expected but then I am also agency so goes with the territory.

You are the truck driver, whether it was in the same place as the white diesel tank as the truck you learnt in is irrelevant. A simple look and oh the nozzle does not fit should have alerted you straight away that something was not right. Therefore you either have a look round or ask someone for help as you don’t know what is wrong. I accept that people are not taught properly about a lot of the things they need to know, but you have to take responsibility to ensure you understand the vehicle and it’s controls etc. If you don’t know what half the button do then ask someone or read the manual if it is available to find out.

Learn in advance and be forearmed and you will have a better chance in work, a lot of places you would be not getting any more work for doing that one mistake so think your self lucky they are giving you further chances.

Go and speak to the TM and ask them for some vehicle familiarisation with the truck and it’s controls rather than just hoping for the best.

I still say putting red into the white or white into the red tank is almost forgivable as people do make genuine mistakes but diesel in the ad blue tank just no. Sorry to be so hard on you but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and say it the way it is.

We have drivers who take no notice of warnings on the dashboard, running out of ad blue because they have not bothered to check it and fill it, and they don’t care it is out of ad blue, it’s not my problem after all, quite a big fine I am led to believe at least for the operator for a truck that has run out of ad blue on the road if stopped and found out. Get your company a big fine for that and do you think they will say oh don’t worry about it we all make mistakes.

Some people just can’t be bothered to take a little more time or care, that is why our 15 plate DAF’s are absolutely battered, I don’t think one of them hasn’t got scrapes and or damage on them, they had reverse sensors on the back , front proximity sensors on the front bumper and yet people still hit stuff and when they don’t work no one defects them to get them fixed.

Maybe I am just a cynical grumpy old git but I like to think I cover ever base in my job and make sure I do it to the best of my ability, even then I make the odd mistake as we are all only human.

Yeah alright Yoda. I think he got it the first time.

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TheNewBoy:
When i worked for one of the big breakdown companies, i went out to a women who have filled the radiator bottle with fuel [emoji14] & another who had filled the engine with oil all the way up to the filler hole on top of engine & wonders why i didn’t start

i just bought a 2010 ducato with a siezed engine…the reason being,the small co started a young flipflop delivery driver(1st mistake)…told him on penalty of death to make sure the oil and water were always topped up…6 weeks later,he filed it with diesel,lit er up to about 60mph,then locked the lot amidst a mega skid.engine siezed…his answer to that was…walk back to the garage and bung in another 2 litres of oil,as his version of checking the oil was to bung in or 2 liters a week without looking at the dipstick.at that point,that was the flipflop driver that used to have a job… :smiley:

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simcor:
You are the truck driver, whether it was in the same place as the white diesel tank as the truck you learnt in is irrelevant. A simple look and oh the nozzle does not fit should have alerted you straight away that something was not right. Therefore you either have a look round or ask someone for help as you don’t know what is wrong. I accept that people are not taught properly about a lot of the things they need to know, but you have to take responsibility to ensure you understand the vehicle and it’s controls etc. If you don’t know what half the button do then ask someone or read the manual if it is available to find out.

Having never filled up a lorry’s fuel tank before I assumed it was something on all trucks hence why I never got help.

Who would I have asked? The lady behind the garage till? As she was the only person there at the time.

It was such a silly mistake to make and one I wont live down. Well while I am working there. Wont tell anyone else when the job ends, lol.

Dont have time to ask a million and one questions about the vehicle as there is so much to do trying to learn where all the paperwork goes and loading up, checking the vehicle over. Seems its different trucks each night so one differs from another. There is so much to take in and so much they dont tell us that I have to ask help with anyway or find out the hard way.

My only saving grace really was that the mistake was spotted before I drove it. The second vehicle I drove did not have the "ad blue only. no diesel " sticker on the side so would have driven it.

I had hoped this was a common mistake but seems its only the rare few who have done it.

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I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

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Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

The plan at first was to be the drivers mate and be shown the route etc so I followed the guy around the truck (at my request as he left me in the cab). Then at the last minute there was a shortage of staff so I ended up going out on my own.

I guess I was then meant to do the check myself and fill in the paperwork but it was only on the second shift that I done this myself. Everything was so rushed.

Coolrider:
How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Wasnt really paying much attention as the guy didnt have a torch so was just following him around in the dark. I didnt have a torch at that point but got one for the 2nd shift. Overlooking the obvious was my mistake.

Coolrider:
I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Thats so true.

Well I have started a new job with the agency as i couldnt handle the midnight start.

I could not get much sleep so ended up being really tired driving in the dark. Had the windows down and no heating on but felt like I could have fallen asleep quite easily. Called it a day before anything serious happened.

So starting my new shift this morning at 730am.

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Years ago I quite often put red diesel in the white diesel tank and in the winter would put a couple of gallon of 4 star in the diesel tank as well at every fill up, didn’t think twice about it either. :slight_smile:

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Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

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GhostRider17:

Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

It is called having a discussion and an opinion on the subject, just as you have here as well.

I have re-read my comments and do not think I made any comments that were personally insulting to the guy, it was more observations and comments on what happened and how it happened.

Maybe I could have worded some bits better or maybe people read into a post what they think it means rather than what it was intended to mean. There is never any body language to read in a written post so sometimes things can taken in completely the wrong context.

Cue the “oh backtracking now are we” comments, I have been around forums long enough to see this same tosh over and over again. People need to have a thicker skin and try not to get so uppity over a subject, we all do too easily sometimes.

I also think I gave the OP some good advice in my posts, to get some help, to ask for vehicle familiarisation, to ask to be taught stuff he does not know. Most companies won’t do this type of induction it is here are the keys off you go. We all know that is wrong for even experienced drivers let alone a new driver.

So go ahead call me a keyboard warrior or whatever you like, but the OP can speak for himself I am sure, if he wishes to PM me directly and discuss it I am more than happy to oblige, and if I have upset him in any way with my comments I am also man enough to apologise to him directly.

My opinion is as valid as your opinion and everyone else’s on here. Opinions are a lot like arse holes, everyone has one as the old saying goes.

And I am also more than happy to stand by my first comment “it is a ridiculous mistake to make” in this case.

And for the record I don’t think new drivers should be allowed out in a truck without basic familiarisation and a driving assessment at the least, more companies should be prepared to put the effort in to ensure people are given a decent start and the information required.

But then again I learn stuff in advance as much as possible when it is something new maybe that’s just me, but I research things I don’t know.

Anyway I will go back to hiding behind my keyboard on this thread now.

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GhostRider17:

Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

I think back to what happened when I put the diesel in the adblue tank and think it was inevitable that it was going to happen as I had no experience with the fuel tank/filling up. I know people will say a fuel tank is a fuel tank. However, I have had a couple of lpg cars and some of the fitments differ on them when you go to fill up. So this was just something new to me. I didnt look for a second tank as I had never had a truck with adblue so wasnt expecting to be doing anything wrong.

I had a couple of questions in the theory and module 4 etc but thats as far as it went with my adblue experience.

I havent felt attacked by anyone as such on this forum. People will always say “how on earth did you do that?”. I didnt drive a truck under a low bridge - have you seen some of those pictures? then i too am like - how on earth did you do that■■? how didnt you see that sign??

I have learnt a big lesson and if thats my only mistake for a long time then I will take that on the chin and learn from it.

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simcor:

GhostRider17:

Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

It is called having a discussion and an opinion on the subject, just as you have here as well.

I have re-read my comments and do not think I made any comments that were personally insulting to the guy, it was more observations and comments on what happened and how it happened.

Maybe I could have worded some bits better or maybe people read into a post what they think it means rather than what it was intended to mean. There is never any body language to read in a written post so sometimes things can taken in completely the wrong context.

Cue the “oh backtracking now are we” comments, I have been around forums long enough to see this same tosh over and over again. People need to have a thicker skin and try not to get so uppity over a subject, we all do too easily sometimes.

I also think I gave the OP some good advice in my posts, to get some help, to ask for vehicle familiarisation, to ask to be taught stuff he does not know. Most companies won’t do this type of induction it is here are the keys off you go. We all know that is wrong for even experienced drivers let alone a new driver.

So go ahead call me a keyboard warrior or whatever you like, but the OP can speak for himself I am sure, if he wishes to PM me directly and discuss it I am more than happy to oblige, and if I have upset him in any way with my comments I am also man enough to apologise to him directly.

My opinion is as valid as your opinion and everyone else’s on here. Opinions are a lot like arse holes, everyone has one as the old saying goes.

And I am also more than happy to stand by my first comment “it is a ridiculous mistake to make” in this case.

And for the record I don’t think new drivers should be allowed out in a truck without basic familiarisation and a driving assessment at the least, more companies should be prepared to put the effort in to ensure people are given a decent start and the information required.

But then again I learn stuff in advance as much as possible when it is something new maybe that’s just me, but I research things I don’t know.

Anyway I will go back to hiding behind my keyboard on this thread now.

I too wish we had more training especially as I had about 6 months gap between starting work and passing my test.

I havent been offended by your comments or anyone elses. Maybe I was looking for a bit of sympathy, which I got from a few but we all make mistakes and its learning from them is the key. I am glad others have made the same or similar mistake so am not the only one.

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lifestartsat40:

simcor:

GhostRider17:

Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

It is called having a discussion and an opinion on the subject, just as you have here as well.

I have re-read my comments and do not think I made any comments that were personally insulting to the guy, it was more observations and comments on what happened and how it happened.

Maybe I could have worded some bits better or maybe people read into a post what they think it means rather than what it was intended to mean. There is never any body language to read in a written post so sometimes things can taken in completely the wrong context.

Cue the “oh backtracking now are we” comments, I have been around forums long enough to see this same tosh over and over again. People need to have a thicker skin and try not to get so uppity over a subject, we all do too easily sometimes.

I also think I gave the OP some good advice in my posts, to get some help, to ask for vehicle familiarisation, to ask to be taught stuff he does not know. Most companies won’t do this type of induction it is here are the keys off you go. We all know that is wrong for even experienced drivers let alone a new driver.

So go ahead call me a keyboard warrior or whatever you like, but the OP can speak for himself I am sure, if he wishes to PM me directly and discuss it I am more than happy to oblige, and if I have upset him in any way with my comments I am also man enough to apologise to him directly.

My opinion is as valid as your opinion and everyone else’s on here. Opinions are a lot like arse holes, everyone has one as the old saying goes.

And I am also more than happy to stand by my first comment “it is a ridiculous mistake to make” in this case.

And for the record I don’t think new drivers should be allowed out in a truck without basic familiarisation and a driving assessment at the least, more companies should be prepared to put the effort in to ensure people are given a decent start and the information required.

But then again I learn stuff in advance as much as possible when it is something new maybe that’s just me, but I research things I don’t know.

Anyway I will go back to hiding behind my keyboard on this thread now.

I too wish we had more training especially as I had about 6 months gap between starting work and passing my test.

I havent been offended by your comments or anyone elses. Maybe I was looking for a bit of sympathy, which I got from a few but we all make mistakes and its learning from them is the key. I am glad others have made the same or similar mistake so am not the only one.

Good to hear buddy, I just love how other people get offended for someone else.

But the bottom line is I don’t think it is a mistake you will make again and you have learn’t from it, so onward and upward.

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simcor:

GhostRider17:

Coolrider:
I Presume before you actually drove the truck you carried out your checks that you are required to do by law?

I suspect the answer is yes and if so did you not think it might be a good time to have a look around the truck and familiarise yourself with the basics?

How the hell did you miss a bloody diesel tank on the side of a truck?

Don’t get me wrong we all make mistakes but seriously!!!

I strongly suspect if you did ask the woman in the garage she would have pointed out the diesel tank to you! After all you can’t exactly miss it.

Well in your case!!!

Youre the second person on this thread to have a proper go at the poor guy,who to be honest has shown a fair bit of bottle to admit his mistake AND reply to the insults in a modest manner.

Hes shown alot more bottle than other certain people who are happy to hide behind their keyboards or smartphones and criticise other less experienced drivers mistakes,no matter how big or small!!

It is called having a discussion and an opinion on the subject, just as you have here as well.

I have re-read my comments and do not think I made any comments that were personally insulting to the guy, it was more observations and comments on what happened and how it happened.

Maybe I could have worded some bits better or maybe people read into a post what they think it means rather than what it was intended to mean. There is never any body language to read in a written post so sometimes things can taken in completely the wrong context.

Cue the “oh backtracking now are we” comments, I have been around forums long enough to see this same tosh over and over again. People need to have a thicker skin and try not to get so uppity over a subject, we all do too easily sometimes.

I also think I gave the OP some good advice in my posts, to get some help, to ask for vehicle familiarisation, to ask to be taught stuff he does not know. Most companies won’t do this type of induction it is here are the keys off you go. We all know that is wrong for even experienced drivers let alone a new driver.

So go ahead call me a keyboard warrior or whatever you like, but the OP can speak for himself I am sure, if he wishes to PM me directly and discuss it I am more than happy to oblige, and if I have upset him in any way with my comments I am also man enough to apologise to him directly.

My opinion is as valid as your opinion and everyone else’s on here. Opinions are a lot like arse holes, everyone has one as the old saying goes.

And I am also more than happy to stand by my first comment “it is a ridiculous mistake to make” in this case.

And for the record I don’t think new drivers should be allowed out in a truck without basic familiarisation and a driving assessment at the least, more companies should be prepared to put the effort in to ensure people are given a decent start and the information required.

But then again I learn stuff in advance as much as possible when it is something new maybe that’s just me, but I research things I don’t know.

Anyway I will go back to hiding behind my keyboard on this thread now.

Maybe i was a bit hasty in posting the comment that i did,i was a tad tired last night so probably should stay away from forums when im half asleep. My apologies.

Like you said though its hard to judge how someone is wording something with txt on a forum and i really didnt need to step in for the OP,im sure hes a big boy and can defend himself.

Ive hopefully got my first hgv shift by myself next week via agency and im bricking it,hope i myself dont make any daft mistakes.

Peace out :sunglasses:

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Water off a ducks back to me Gohstrider. But I do love a good discussion so thanks for that.

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