We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.
The Highway Man:
We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.
So what’s the point of you being there?
Hypothetical situation mixed with experience here, crash happens and everyone works around it, minimal disruption to traffic flow,recovery turn up and it’s all cleared, hato/plastic plod turn up with fancy lights and everything is fubared, lane closures, everyone and their dog slowing down to gawp and rubber neck!
Cause more problems than you solve imho
Pete the post:
The Highway Man:
We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.So what’s the point of you being there?
Hypothetical situation mixed with experience here, crash happens and everyone works around it, minimal disruption to traffic flow,recovery turn up and it’s all cleared, hato/plastic plod turn up with fancy lights and everything is fubared, lane closures, everyone and their dog slowing down to gawp and rubber neck!Cause more problems than you solve imho
Tbh Pete that scenario happens if the police turn up too, poor little lambs can’t pass a blue light without stopping.
So we have HATO’s doing the police’s job (obviously not crash investigation as such) thus freeing up the police to catch diesel thieves, muggers, rapists and terrorists. Or failing that truck drivers eating an apple whilst moving.
I still wonder what the OP’s question was?
the maoster:
Pete the post:
The Highway Man:
We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.So what’s the point of you being there?
Hypothetical situation mixed with experience here, crash happens and everyone works around it, minimal disruption to traffic flow,recovery turn up and it’s all cleared, hato/plastic plod turn up with fancy lights and everything is fubared, lane closures, everyone and their dog slowing down to gawp and rubber neck!Cause more problems than you solve imho
So we have HATO’s doing the police’s job (obviously not crash investigation as such) thus freeing up the police to catch diesel thieves, muggers, rapists and terrorists. Or failing that truck drivers eating an apple whilst moving.
It’s amazing that truck drivers just cannot grasp the remit of Roads Policing officers!
Héraultais:
I still wonder what the OP’s question was?
So What Was The Ops Question Then■■?
Pete the post:
The Highway Man:
We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.So what’s the point of you being there?
Hypothetical situation mixed with experience here, crash happens and everyone works around it, minimal disruption to traffic flow,recovery turn up and it’s all cleared, hato/plastic plod turn up with fancy lights and everything is fubared, lane closures, everyone and their dog slowing down to gawp and rubber neck!Cause more problems than you solve imho
I’ve highlighted what we do. We are not coppers, we are employed to keep the motorway running, we will not close a lane unless it’s absolutely necessary. We have key performance indicators (KPIs) dictating our every move. We will not interfere with a scene if it’s as you say " it’s all cleared" what’s the point of stopping? it’s a waste of our time. I take it you haven’t been stuck in a queue recently where HATOs have worked their arses off getting the traffic turned round and released as quickly as possible to allow the police - that’s the ones with the nee naw cars and blue lights, to do police work whilst we do traffic management which is what we are trained for.
dazamc1983:
Héraultais:
I still wonder what the OP’s question was?So What Was The Ops Question Then■■?
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I don’t know - he never came back!!!
Oops fat fingers!!!
The Highway Man:
Pete the post:
The Highway Man:
We don’t have enforcement powers full stop. The powers we have are for traffic management only and any HATO telling you otherwise is talking out their arse.So what’s the point of you being there?
Hypothetical situation mixed with experience here, crash happens and everyone works around it, minimal disruption to traffic flow,recovery turn up and it’s all cleared, hato/plastic plod turn up with fancy lights and everything is fubared, lane closures, everyone and their dog slowing down to gawp and rubber neck!Cause more problems than you solve imho
I’ve highlighted what we do. We are not coppers, we are employed to keep the motorway running, we will not close a lane unless it’s absolutely necessary. We have key performance indicators (KPIs) dictating our every move. We will not interfere with a scene if it’s as you say " it’s all cleared" what’s the point of stopping? it’s a waste of our time. I take it you haven’t been stuck in a queue recently where HATOs have worked their arses off getting the traffic turned round and released as quickly as possible to allow the police - that’s the ones with the nee naw cars and blue lights, to do police work whilst we do traffic management which is what we are trained for.
Clear and concise.
How you doing Highway Man? Fancy seeing you here.
The Highway Man:
Oops fat fingers!!!
Not for the first time!
You’re not stalking me from milforum are you?
The Highway Man:
You’re not stalking me from milforum are you?
Perhaps, perhaps not!
Bog off CF.
That’s no way to speak to your buddy!
RoadsRat:
It’s amazing that truck drivers just cannot grasp the remit of Roads Policing officers!
Are you really trying to say its not your ‘remit’ to deal with anything that falls outside your specialist role?
iDriver:
RoadsRat:
It’s amazing that truck drivers just cannot grasp the remit of Roads Policing officers!Are you really trying to say its not your ‘remit’ to deal with anything that falls outside your specialist role?
No.
I’ve worked quite closely with my local RPU, most of the time they deal with traffic matters, but it’s not unknown for them to roll their sleeves up and dive in with the rest of the relief when it goes pear shaped.
RoadsRat:
The Highway Man:
You’re not stalking me from milforum are you?Perhaps, perhaps not!
Oh no. If theres one thing worse than lorry drivers who’ve been in the SAS its coppers that have !!