The first two people were not tainted with sin the way we all are(all of humanity).
Yes,I believe in the Bible.
What do you believe then?
The universe came into being from nothing…
Sploom:
The first two people were not tainted with sin the way we all are(all of humanity).Yes,I believe in the Bible.
What do you believe then?
The universe came into being from nothing…
And again.
Science can’t proof something? Its false and not real.
Religion can’t proof something ? Its divine, and totally true.
So, what came first, the universe, or god?
Sploom:
The first two people were not tainted with sin the way we all are(all of humanity).…
Mate seriously, just listen to yourself 
You sound like some sort of.scary 16th Century ‘Fire and Brimstone’ type preacher stood in his pulpit scaring the living ■■■■ out of his congregation.
This is where I find all this brainwashing dangerous, a guy like yourself who otherwise comes across as articulate and educated, spouting all this crap with conviction…
Yet another similarity to the other end of the spectrum to fanatical religion,.but equally as scary and influential…
The promotion of 30s style Nazism. 
Eve was sinful,she stole an apple although she was specifically told not to.Are babies & small children automatically sinful even when their brains are not capable of recognising sin.The Universe came from somewhere but we,as a species are not capable of understanding.If,as you believe,God created everything,i revert back to my first question,where did God come from,&dont waffle & say 'he always existed.'That just makes you look ridiculous.Thats the same as saying it all started with ‘the big bang’,then what was there before the big bang,nothing does not exist,we just dont have the intellectual capacity to understand,but a book written by people as a means to control others is no basis for the way to live.
Notice you ,after eating the aplle,Adam admited to God that he ate it,he said,“I ate the appke that YOU gave me”,and there we have blameshifting entered the world.And it is carried on throught human history
Do you have to teach your children to lie?
Or to squabble between each other?
Of course you dont.And what hapoens then?
They blame each other,it wasnt me,he did it,if you have children,does this sound familiar…
Its all our sinful nature that we are born with.It does seem a unfair to me too,but just as we inherit sin from one mans fall,those of us who are chosen inherit redemption through Jesus Christ.
I believe God always existed but also that He is outside of time and space and owns time and space too.
the nodding donkey:
Sploom:
Notice you ,after eating the aplle,Adam admited to God that he ate it,he said,“I ate the appke that YOU gave me”,and there we have blameshifting entered the world.And it is carried on throught human history
Do you have to teach your children to lie?
Or to squabble between each other?
Of course you dont.And what hapoens then?
They blame each other,it wasnt me,he did it,if you have children,does this sound familiar…
Its all our sinful nature that we are born with.It does seem a unfair to me too,but just as we inherit sin from one mans fall,those of us who are chosen inherit redemption through Jesus Christ.I believe God always existed but also that He is outside of time and space and owns time and space too.
Sorry, let’s try the link properly… mods can delete my previous post.
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Hawkwind ? 
The Devil’s Music I tell you !! …Lord have mercy.
Play it backwards and there’s a subliminal message in there telling us ''God does not exist ‘’.
Shame on you Mr Donkey… 
I mean man…Have you never heard of Cliff Richard ffs.
robroy:
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Hawkwind ?
The Devil’s Music I tell you !! …Lord have mercy.Play it backwards and there’s a subliminal message in there telling us ''God does not exist ‘’.
Shame on you Mr Donkey…I mean man…Have you never heard of Cliff Richard ffs.
Cliff Richard…
Have you ever wondered how a man in his eighties, can still look so young?
the nodding donkey:
robroy:
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Hawkwind ?
The Devil’s Music I tell you !! …Lord have mercy.Play it backwards and there’s a subliminal message in there telling us ''God does not exist ‘’.
Shame on you Mr Donkey…I mean man…Have you never heard of Cliff Richard ffs.
Cliff Richard…
Have you ever wondered how a man in his eighties, can still look so young?
You obviously ain’t seen him lately. …but the answer is ‘Wealth’ anyway.
robroy:
the nodding donkey:
robroy:
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Hawkwind ?
The Devil’s Music I tell you !! …Lord have mercy.Play it backwards and there’s a subliminal message in there telling us ''God does not exist ‘’.
Shame on you Mr Donkey…I mean man…Have you never heard of Cliff Richard ffs.
Cliff Richard…
Have you ever wondered how a man in his eighties, can still look so young?
You obviously ain’t seen him lately.
No, the answer is blood of virgins.
Of course, the wealth part helps with getting it.
the nodding donkey:
robroy:
the nodding donkey:
robroy:
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Hawkwind ?
The Devil’s Music I tell you !! …Lord have mercy.Play it backwards and there’s a subliminal message in there telling us ''God does not exist ‘’.
Shame on you Mr Donkey…I mean man…Have you never heard of Cliff Richard ffs.
Cliff Richard…
Have you ever wondered how a man in his eighties, can still look so young?
You obviously ain’t seen him lately.
No, the answer is blood of virgins.
Of course, the wealth part helps with getting it.
It also may help.that he’s most probably a virgin himself.
Well, with a woman at least…allegedly, if you get my drift.
If that is so, (and who cares if it is,) it’s maybe another case of conflict of ■■■■■■■■■ with religion.
It’s got a ■■■■ lot to.answer for ain’t it,.where many people in that sort of situation choose to lead an unhappy life in denial,.all for an imaginary being who supposedly lives in the sky.
Crazy.
Where in the Bible does God forbid a man to have a wife and have intimacy with her?
Isnt it a wonderful gift from God for a man and wife to enjoy this…
I reckon you should go back to fixing fridges mate, you were a tad more entertaining then.
Now you evade my question!!
Anyway,it doesnt matter,but whats that about the fridges?
Its some sort of joke,or you confused me with someone else…
Sploom:
Now you evade my question!!
Anyway,it doesnt matter,but whats that about the fridges?
Its some sort of joke,or you confused me with someone else…
Not evading at all bud, just ignoring the usual clap trap.
Nah, don’t think I’m getting confused at all.
Fridge Jesus to Trucknet’s ‘Own personal Jesus’… A la Depeche Mode…Rodders.
You missed my point,.I was implying he may be gay…you know, those guys you lot are totally against.