Here's yet another reason to vote leave the EU

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tommy t:
But on the other hand those who are regarded as asylum seekers (with out any proof of who they are) are given almost everything on a plate, how much longer can this discrimination continue without serious repercussions ? If we are truly broke as the Tories would have us relive and are all in in it together how the f*** can we as a county afford to accept 2 3 5 k of refugee children this will mean supporting them financially at least until they are 18yrs of age if not for longer, and with the figures quoted some greedy t*ats are taking the ■■■■

If Denmark’s findings are anything to go by then that should not be a problem, on testing, 72% of the children were found to be over 18. (mostly men between 20 and 30)
thelocal.dk/20150622/refugee … -be-adults
Unfortunately we will probably be too polite to test

I really do wish the British media would stop being so misleading - ‘Refugee children fleeing war zones’ give the impression of a bare-footed 6 year old child clutching a beaten-up old teddy bear, how could anybody not help?

But getting back to “Brexit” for a moment … The above problem will not be solved in the UK by exiting Europe - The UK is full of bleeding-heart middle class numpties who will still be demanding we take in far more than our fair share.

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tommy t:
The way i see things are that this tory government and the 2 before it,( new labour (tory lite) and coalition( again tory) So we had had 15 yrs of Tory rule in all but name,
This current government seek to further erode our right to privacy with their floored IP bill, as well as them removing funding for things like legal aid, (what happened to the right to a fair trial/justice ?) This as well as persecution of the sick & disabled , apparently the latest tory mantra(BS) is that a disability is all in the mind so physiological and not physical and if they tell claimants enough times that they can work ,they will be cured!!! i kid you not :open_mouth:

But on the other hand those who are regarded as asylum seekers (with out any proof of who they are) are given almost everything on a plate, how much longer can this discrimination continue without serious repercussions ? If we are truly broke as the Tories would have us believe, and “we are all in in it together” how the f*** can we as a county afford to accept 2, 3 ,or 5 k of refugee children ? being in mind that this will realistically mean supporting them financially until they are at least 18yrs of age if not for longer, and with the figures quoted some greedy t*ats are taking the ■■■■ (social services) how is this going to affect council tax bills and local government cuts? to think it won’t would be very dumb

I personally do not see this as our problem, we should not be taking more refugees, we should as a country be pro actively deporting those over stayers and illegals without the added expense of appeals and the rest of the guff, such as the human rights act,Changes are needed to stop the ■■■■ takers from foreign lands wasting tax payers money,( But we cannot do this if in the EU) like those well know hate preachers, and those illegals who commit serious crimes, who later don’t wish to attend their court trial because they don’t want to change cells and cell buddy maybe one of them drops the soap at every opportunity) :open_mouth: :open_mouth: these are abuses to those rights designed to protect us, why have these things been allowed ffs?

the likes of that fat hook handed preacher for one, A bullet in the dome, gone nada goodnight,■■? why the f*** not ? Done of course by persons unknown and never traced

As for “multiculturalism” sod that i don’t want it foisted on me any more than it already has been

And as for trump he’s a businessman ,and at least isn’t a corporate shill like the rest, he funds his own campaign so doesn’t have to answer or obey any corporate master , he will be good for the usa, they like us have had enough of this Muslim invasion ,yes they are in the usa too thanks to “hug a musim” obama sound familiar? hug a hoodie wasn’t dodgy Dave was it?

Or to put it another way charity begins at home.Why are we cutting the services available to our own disadvantaged and then needlessly importing a massive expensive economic and potentially future national security Asian problem instead.When that problem can be looked after much more easily within their own culture without any economic issues within the rich Arab Gulf States.Or South Africa in the case of African ‘refugees’.

As for Dodgy Dave why is the zb so keen to appease the bleeding heart Socialist vote.Especially when the obvious agenda of that vote is to change the demographic of the country.To one which they think will be an advantage to their zb wit socialist ideological crusade to change this country to a multi ethnic puppet state of Merkel’s Eurasian Federation. :imp: :unamused:

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So we then create a ruling so that those ■■■■■■■■■ who want them here become legally obliged to pay for their every need out of their own pockets, so food, clothing, housing ,bills , spending money, heath care, education , every single thing, including fines ect, the tax payer pays ZERO, See how many pipe up then

So sponsor a Muslim scheme, is what is needed i bet those shouting the loudest will become very quiet once they are faced with the prospect of solely funding their every need

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Bluey Circles:
But getting back to “Brexit” for a moment … The above problem will not be solved in the UK by exiting Europe - The UK is full of bleeding-heart middle class numpties who will still be demanding we take in far more than our fair share.

The difference being that we won’t have people like Hollande and Merkel and the zb wit Socialist run Scandinavian states over ruling people like Farage when we send the ‘refugees’ back to Asia or Africa or for that matter France when they crawl out from under a truck in the services.As for the bleeding heart Socialists tell them that the Socialist Labour Party and Socialist Workers Party or even the Socialist infiltrated Labour Party and Lib Dem vote combined doesn’t have an electoral mandate to do zb all.

Which just leaves the question of exactly why does the Conservative Party seem to have more in common with Corbyn than Farage. :open_mouth: :unamused:

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tommy t:
So we then create a ruling so that those [zb] who want them here become legally obliged to pay for their every need out of their own pockets, so food, clothing, housing ,bills , spending money, heath care, education , every single thing, including fines ect, the tax payer pays ZERO, See how many pipe up then

So sponsor a Muslim scheme, is what is needed i bet those shouting the loudest will become very quiet once they are faced with the prospect of solely funding their every need

And I also quite like the thought of taking an aggressive 25 year old male to one of the do-gooders homes and saying this is the 14yo for you to foster, and he needs a new iPhone.
But seriously though, non of that is going to happen, it will all be funded out of general taxation, and it is highly unlikely to be drawn from our colossal overseas aid fund.

Carryfast:
The difference being that we won’t have people like Hollande and Merkel and the zb wit Socialist run Scandinavian states over ruling people like Farage when we send the ‘refugees’ back to Asia or Africa or for that matter France when they crawl out from under a truck in the services.As for the bleeding heart Socialists tell them that the Socialist Labour Party and Socialist Workers Party or even the Socialist infiltrated Labour Party and Lib Dem vote combined doesn’t have an electoral mandate to do zb all.

France would simply refuse to take them, and the cost of send failed asylum seekers back is simply eye watering. Because of the risk of violence they can not be put onto commercial flights, so they have to charter private jets that can cost up to a quarter of a million at a time
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ekers.html

I really don’t have a clue how the refugee problem can be sorted, but Brexit won’t make a ha’porth of difference, in fact it ill probably get worse as France will cease helping to block their passage on their side of the channel.

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Could always shoot them, :open_mouth: :grimacing: or persecute them more than they allege they are fleeing from , then they could deport themselves, and how can the frogs refuse them, they are a shengen country aren’t they or is it a case of selective free movement of people? As these failed asylum seekers all would be returning to France because they wanted to as we would have their signatures saying so :bulb: all the uk would be doing is assisting them

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Bluey Circles:

Carryfast:
The difference being that we won’t have people like Hollande and Merkel and the zb wit Socialist run Scandinavian states over ruling people like Farage when we send the ‘refugees’ back to Asia or Africa or for that matter France when they crawl out from under a truck in the services.As for the bleeding heart Socialists tell them that the Socialist Labour Party and Socialist Workers Party or even the Socialist infiltrated Labour Party and Lib Dem vote combined doesn’t have an electoral mandate to do zb all.

France would simply refuse to take them, and the cost of send failed asylum seekers back is simply eye watering. Because of the risk of violence they can not be put onto commercial flights, so they have to charter private jets that can cost up to a quarter of a million at a time
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ekers.html

I really don’t have a clue how the refugee problem can be sorted, but Brexit won’t make a ha’porth of difference, in fact it ill probably get worse as France will cease helping to block their passage on their side of the channel.

Strangely enough the airlines seem to have no problem with transporting dangerous criminals under extradition conditions so why not in the case of a few ‘refugees’.If not I’m sure a ship or two could be chartered for the job bearing in mind the Gulf States owe us a few favours regards GW1 and maintaining arms supplies to at least provide us with an Asian drop off point.With the win win situation that the Gulf States are a far better option for resettlement of Middle Eastern origin ‘refugees’.

As for France why does France have less responsibility to deal with anyone having ‘reached’ their territory than we do having reached ours.IE France would have no immigration controls on ‘our’ side stopping us sending them back to France just as we’d have none there side.While being ‘found’ on a truck arriving from France is a reasonable clue regards responsibility under the Dublin regulations.All of which is better than just letting them walk in and making ourselves responsible for them at the expense of our own.Let alone probably adding to future demographic takeover.

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tommy t:
Could always shoot them, As these failed asylum seekers all would be returning to France because they wanted to as we would have their signatures saying so :bulb: all the uk would be doing is assisting them

:smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing:

To be fair just scare em to sign using an empty gun.With fake shootings of their mates using blanks and fake blood in different rooms for effect.

Ve haf vays of making you valk away.

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Good news from the IMF they say if we vote out then property and house prices will plummet ,at last the young ones will be able to buy a home without the government gimmicks . If we leave we will not be able to afford any more german built army trucks .I can not see any body wanting this free movement stuff you have to be able to control numbers and type of people that come here there is a predicted seventy million population in this country in a few years time so that is one big reason to VOTE out

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youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k

Brexit the Movie

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It’s hard to see past Brexit, when all the remain naysayers are directly profiteering from the Eu. Even past prime ministers have to spout the crap, i.e. Major and Brown, otherwise it exposes their positions, and that of call me Dave as a lie. Even Stuart Rose has said wages will rise in the event of a brexit. The only people calling for remain are the big financial guns that will have to cover the cost of the rise in labour costs. Vote leave has two former chancellors and some medium to large business leaders in their side. I know who I trust. Even eurosceptic Corbyn has remained tight lipped, as he knows if he’s ever going to be pm, he’ll have to ride the gravy train to succeed

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Juddian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k

Brexit the Movie

Democracy and freedom(how the movie starts) my a$$, its all about money and power. I dont believe for a second that if UK leaves EU British politicians will become all of a sudden patriotic and care about their people more then before.
The country will keep its immigrants, same level will be kept thru visas and work programs, BoJo will be prime minister and nothing new under the sun. Well UK economy might suffer on the long run, but thats the trade of to make.

P.S. On freedom and democracy issue - UK has more cctv then any other european country, here you can get fine for everything, you employer know everything, you bank knows everything, your landlord know everything that is no their business to know yet we talk about freedom and democracy. People can not say openly what they think because that will offend somebody…, I cant go with a cigarette lighter in my pocket even on the parking lot of the out base. Its crazy, even America has more freedoms then Britain :grimacing:

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Dolph:
Democracy and freedom(how the movie starts) my a$$, its all about money and power. I dont believe for a second that if UK leaves EU British politicians will become all of a sudden patriotic and care about their people more then before.
The country will keep its immigrants, same level will be kept thru visas and work programs, BoJo will be prime minister and nothing new under the sun. Well UK economy might suffer on the long run, but thats the trade of to make.

P.S. On freedom and democracy issue - UK has more cctv then any other european country, here you can get fine for everything, you employer know everything, you bank knows everything, your landlord know everything that is no their business to know yet we talk about freedom and democracy. People can not say openly what they think because that will offend somebody…, I cant go with a cigarette lighter in my pocket even on the parking lot of the out base. Its crazy, even America has more freedoms then Britain :grimacing:

The difference is if we don’t like what the UK government is doing we can vote it out of office.If we don’t like what the EU is doing we can’t.On that note it’s ironic that you’d be supporting the same lot who forced tachographs instead of log books on us.

Let alone this cluster zb.In which ironically if you honestly don’t believe in big brother then you obviously support Romania’s state rights and sovereignty over that of the zb EU.So which is it do you support Romania’s Courts in that argument.Or the EU’s right of sovereignty over Romania’s government,which Romania’s government has obviously caved into ?.The former would obviously put you in agreement with my ideas for a Confederal Europe not a Federal one and therefore the supremacy of state sovereignty over Federal.While the latter would just show yet more hypocritical East Euro bs of supporting whoever pays the most. :unamused:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Rete … ve#Romania

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Winseer:
WHY is “Remain” STILL odds-on favourite to win this damned referendum?

Are workers going to be denied the vote or something? :angry:

Maybe because people don’t all live in a world where they get all their ideas from the Daily Mail/Express and see that overall it is better to stay in.

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I don’t need the daily mail to realise the eu is a defunct, corrupt gravy train, with stagnated growth, and no trade agreements with 8 of the ten largest economies in the world. I don’t need the daily mail to realise the powers that be want us to stay in, as they all stand to be part of the 10000 beaurocrats that earn more than our pm. I don’t need the daily mail to know that most of the emerging economies have up to 10 times the growth and exports of the whole eu. I don’t need the daily mail to tell me that we can’t fish 3 miles off our own coast, but other eu and non eu countries can, and do fish those waters and sell us our own fish. I don’t need the daily mail to realise I don’t want a penny of my taxes paying for this undemocratic lunacy any more :bulb:

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So where did you learn all those inaccuracies?

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Why are they inaccurate? Because call me Dave and calamity George say so? They’re all over the Internet. You can watch the brexit movie. You can search the tax payers alliance website, to see where your taxes go. You can look at vote leaves website, ukips website, you can type brexit facts into Google and there will be links to thousands of pages in the same fashion. Even the good old liberal bbc had to concede yesterday that call me Dave was banging the drum no less than 6 months ago, that we’d be fine outside of the eu. He’s a euro sceptic, and he’s had his mind changed by the industry leaders whose hands fill his arse

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4 of the worlds top 10 economies are within the EU
The EU as an entity is the second largest economy in the world, marginally behind the USA but in front of China
The UK whilst within the EU is the 5th biggest economy in the world - there may be many reasons to exit the EU, but improving our economy or wealth is not a good reason to leave.

I am very much on the fence for which way to vote, but apart from the brief satisfaction in sticking two fingers up to brussels, I really can’t quite put my finger on anything truley possitive. Being out of the EU is certainly no panacea.

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Obviously I meant the ten economies outside the Eu, because a trade agreement with itself would be pretty stupid :stuck_out_tongue:

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Bluey Circles:
4 of the worlds top 10 economies are within the EU
The EU as an entity is the second largest economy in the world, marginally behind the USA but in front of China
The UK whilst within the EU is the 5th biggest economy in the world - there may be many reasons to exit the EU, but improving our economy or wealth is not a good reason to leave.

I am very much on the fence for which way to vote, but apart from the brief satisfaction in sticking two fingers up to brussels, I really can’t quite put my finger on anything truley possitive. Being out of the EU is certainly no panacea.

Unlike Blair’s panacea.Things can obviously only get better if we’re no longer paying billions in net contributions for the privilege of being a net importer of EU products and being ruled by Merkel and Junker.IE Cameron and his Socialist Labour Party allies can’t possibly sell this so called utopia to anyone with any sense,based on anything other than the total bs,that all the above facts,are all somehow a good thing for us. :unamused:

As for the ‘top ten’ feel free to provide the positions of all the EFTA countries on a per capita basis v all those that make up the EU.