shuttlespanker:
Cheggy:
You sound like a prick, good luck on the dole queue.you wanna be careful you don’t get splinters, sitting on the fence like that
Well come on!!! The bloke goes to an induction, acts like hes the big I am, insults other drivers and then proves hes useless. Then complains that other drivers were sniggering?
He needs to give his attitude some work before he works on his reversing.
Passing your test means you should have reached the standard required to drive a truck. It doesnt make you experienced. You get that by doing crappy jobs and practise. Making enemies of people on an induction wont help. had you have been a bit more humble and perhaps said to the bloke you werent the best but you always make sure you didnt hit anything, he may have cut you some slack.
Harry Kyng:
I used to find quiet spots as recommended and practise the awkward reverses, seven years on Ive stopped stressing about it. If it takes a couple of shunts that’s ok, my main thought is bringing the ■■■■ thing back undamagedWas down in Bicester the other night, tiny yard full of vans with a tight 90 deg reverse to the shed. No real lighting but it went in without a shunt, the local driver just said ‘You’ve been here before’ (I hadn’t). Then I get back to the hub in daylight with enough space to land a Cessna and take 3 shunts to put it on a bay that had wheel guides
We’ve all been in that situation 
I would recommend you turn the radio off. Take a good look at where you are heading for and visualise how you would pull away. Take a deep breath. IGNORE anyone who might be watching.if you’re unsure or unsighted. Get out and look and check. The slower you go the more feel you get and the more chance you have to correct. DON’T beat yourself up if you hash one. Watch other drivers in front of you. See how they do it. Everyone had to learn once.
espresso:
Find someone with a towbar on their car and a trailer and practise on a local car parkIf you can master a tiny trailer, a 40 footer is a doddle, much less correcting.
This was what I was going to say. Either that or perhaps you might know a farmer who’d let you practice with a tractor and trailer. If that sounds like I’m taking the **** it’s not meant to, the principle is just the same. In my experience the shorter the trailer the harder it is to reverse because it reacts more quickly to your steering. People often think the bigger something is the harder it must be 
but don’t let the size worry you.
The slower you go the easier it’ll be too so don’t rush. You’re not trying to race anyone, just trying to get on the bay without breaking anything.
Shunting a couple of times is ok too. Anyone who tells you they always back on first time is lying or deluded.
If you think ahead and eye up the manoeuvre properly you should be able to position the truck in the right place so you can more or less go back in one smooth arc. That’s the real trick I think, knowing where to put it before you even start to go backwards.
Good luck. Hope you get some practice and a good job.
tachograph:
To be honest the assessor sounds like a fair and decent bloke, it sounds like you failed the attitude assessment long before you failed the driving assessment and yet he still gave you a chance to prove yourself on the driving sideI can understand your frustration but you should realise that the assessor has a job to do and those “muppits and foreigners” you referred to were presumably people who all passed the driving assessment.
Look you’ve said yourself that your reversing isn’t up-to scratch so don’t you think it would be a good idea to try to get the assessor on your side by showing a decent attitude before getting to the driving part.
From your post it sounds as if you went to the assessment with a bad attitude towards supermarkets and it probably showed before you opened your mouth, the assessor was right to query the state of your license if it was badly kept and he had every right to query the address issue.Change your attitude and you may find people more willing to be lenient, when I say change your attitude I’m not saying you should ■■■■ up to anyone but just be polite and display the kind of attitude that doesn’t alienate people.
If you think a fair and decent bloke is someone who talks to you like a naughty 4 yo school kid then good luck to you
And good luck with pushing those supermarket trollies around
I have never driven for supermarkets before
But when I walked into the training room I was gob smacked at how he talked to us
infact I was gob smacked at how he talked to me when we intorduced our selfs in the corridor
aranger:
Someone who can’t yet reverse telling them who they should employ is another joke.
Might of sounded a bit rich my self
but he had his turn on telling me how the world worked so It was now my turn to tell him how it worked
I have played drivers mates with other drivers on agency enough times now and I know they insist on sending you in pairs of 2s for health and safety (coz if someone is injured at work ((like the driver falling asleep at the wheel)) then there is someone ells to take over from him)
And these lads; never read a map before in there lifes because Tom Tom says it all and down we go off route and back on route or the long way round or under a too small bridge ‘ow me sat nav sent me under there’
ar will my CPC teach me how to reverse
shuttlespanker:
Cheggy:
You sound like a prick, good luck on the dole queue.you wanna be careful you don’t get splinters, sitting on the fence like that
Its OK we have to expect things like this
He has not a bloody clue what we are talking about
The lights on but nobodies in
big mouth and very small brain
Harry Kyng:
I used to find quiet spots as recommended and practise the awkward reverses,
Do you mean take the ■■■■ and practice while on duty
While your being paid to drive the truck and using up your hours 
midlifetrucker:
Passing your test means you should have reached the standard required to drive a truck. It doesnt make you experienced. You get that by doing crappy jobs and practise. Making enemies of people on an induction wont help. had you have been a bit more humble and perhaps said to the bloke you werent the best but you always make sure you didnt hit anything, he may have cut you some slack.
Ow no I always treat people as they treat me
And try to be as forth coming as soon as
Boss & Driver:
midlifetrucker:
Passing your test means you should have reached the standard required to drive a truck. It doesnt make you experienced. You get that by doing crappy jobs and practise. Making enemies of people on an induction wont help. had you have been a bit more humble and perhaps said to the bloke you werent the best but you always make sure you didnt hit anything, he may have cut you some slack.Ow no I always treat people as they treat me
And try to be as forth coming as soon as
Sometimes there’s a timr to be forthcoming and sometimes you have to eat. Humble pie. The trick is to differentiate when.
Boss & Driver:
Harry Kyng:
I used to find quiet spots as recommended and practise the awkward reverses,Do you mean take the ■■■■ and practice while on duty
While your being paid to drive the truck and using up your hours
As the company I originally worked for was a family business, and it was my family… no.
You really are a ■■■■■■■ ■■■■
I read this post and thought the original poster had a good grasp of the english language even though his spelling was all over the place.
After the Asda rant I thought this guy is off his head but maybe, in his country things have happened to him to skew his thinking and he has strong political views.
Then he made the foreigner comments and I realised that he must be British and been through our education system
I am a terrible speller so I set my pc to go red when I make a mistake and it mostly works but that won’t correct grammar and it won’t help me make any sense, even with correctly spelt words.
The attitude of this poster is horrendous and became apparent after his 2nd post.
Fair play to everyone who tried to help him but I think its the education system in this country that has failed him, not his reversing skills.
And for that reason , I’m out !
remember only a [zb] doesn,t take a shunt. took a long time to get to grips with this auto merc,then it just clicks…ive seen drivers who been reversing for years ,smashing up the tailifts on them auto,s.touch the throttle and they shoot off like a rocket.got a scania manual now happy days
blueroom1:
I read this post and thought the original poster had a good grasp of the english language even though his spelling was all over the place.
After the Asda rant I thought this guy is off his head but maybe, in his country things have happened to him to skew his thinking and he has strong political views.
Then he made the foreigner comments and I realised that he must be British and been through our education system
I am a terrible speller so I set my pc to go red when I make a mistake and it mostly works but that won’t correct grammar and it won’t help me make any sense, even with correctly spelt words.The attitude of this poster is horrendous and became apparent after his 2nd post.
Fair play to everyone who tried to help him but I think its the education system in this country that has failed him, not his reversing skills.
And for that reason , I’m out !
I thought he was some ‘know it all’ immigrant, now I just think he’s a rude and ignorant ■■■■
Hang on, isn’t he that ‘lovely something or other’ Member? Forgot the other part of his ID.
edit,
is it lovely person? ■■■■ my memory is going down the pan.
right couldnt be arsed to read all of boss and drivers posts, but this is the guy who rang an agency at night for weeks for sending him to the wrong depot.
bought a van for 2k that was a heap
now cant reverse.
what goes around comes around.
and i would and have helped new drivers out regularly before people jump on me but this guy just seems to have a never ending list of moans and groans even for a driver.
agencies very rarely if ever pay for an assessment ( 4 hours x 5 guys all of whom fail for example £150-200).
war1974:
right couldnt be arsed to read all of boss and drivers posts, but this is the guy who rang an agency at night for weeks for sending him to the wrong depot.
bought a van for 2k that was a heap
now cant reverse.what goes around comes around.
and i would and have helped new drivers out regularly before people jump on me but this guy just seems to have a never ending list of moans and groans even for a driver.
agencies very rarely if ever pay for an assessment ( 4 hours x 5 guys all of whom fail for example £150-200).
I agree , agency sent me on an assessment, induction with the roll on roll off skips for the council tips,no pay, but carried out on a sunday and if successful then a months work minimum.
I kept my mouth shut, passed and hated every minute of it.
lasted two days
After 3 punctures, I clutch and several, severely dented skips I wasn’t asked back
I was a newbie then though, fresh out of training and couldn’t reverse !! 
Boss & Driver:
shuttlespanker:
Cheggy:
You sound like a prick, good luck on the dole queue.you wanna be careful you don’t get splinters, sitting on the fence like that
Its OK we have to expect things like this
He has not a bloody clue what we are talking about
The lights on but nobodies in
big mouth and very small brain
Hahaha… Spell check your posts before commenting on brain capacities mate
Like I said before, work on your attitude first, worry about the reversing later.
There’s not much reversing to be done on the dole
we have been ■■■■ on by the goverment and had our life ruined by the very same companies that give them back handers (supermarkets)
And everyone on hear thinks its OK
Well it not OK its wrong!
So to be a profesional driver you need to be a good speller
seams I need to spell first and learn to reverse later to be a lorry driver
embrace it and do and say nothing and become one of them
A bit like nazisum
Boss & Driver:
we have been [zb] on by the goverment and had our life ruined by the very same companies that give them back handers (supermarkets)
And everyone on hear thinks its OK
Well it not OK its wrong!So to be a profesional driver you need to be a good speller
seams I need to spell first and learn to reverse later to be a lorry driver
embrace it and do and say nothing and become one of them
A bit like nazisum
You’re not English are you?
If our government is so ‘bad’ why don’t you go back to your own Country??
Boss & Driver:
we have been [zb] on by the goverment and had our life ruined by the very same companies that give them back handers (supermarkets)
And everyone on hear thinks its OK
Well it not OK its wrong!So to be a profesional driver you need to be a good speller
seams I need to spell first and learn to reverse later to be a lorry driver
embrace it and do and say nothing and become one of them
A bit like nazisum
Your in looking for a job so its not a matter of right and wrong with CPC, supermarkets, foreign drivers or whatever.
Its just a bad idea to sound so negative at what is basically an interview, you are a newly qualified driver and you go to an induction and moan the face off the poor guy trying to get you some work.
Yes you should just sit there and kid on your dead keen, get the induction over with, get some shifts and keep out of it, you’re a guest in the place.
I barely even talk to anyone when I go for a shift, its a big advantage of being agency, you don’t need to get involved in their politics.
Did Asda Falkirk last year for my green card and no driving assessment was required so you’re very unlucky, saying that he probably would have put you bottom of the list for shifts anyway.
