ORC:
When I was taking my C+E test I had to overtake a cyclist on the road when there was a dedicated cycle lane available. The examiner actually said that the cyclist was obliged to use the dedicated cycle lane where one exists and should not be on the road.
I did ask if that meant it was okay for me to run him over, the examiner just chuckled and we carried on.
I’m not saying this is right or not, just passing on the understanding of road rules as expressed by an official DVSA examiner.
Para 61 says use of cycle routes is ‘not compulsory’, so not sure where the DVSA examiner got his facts from…
Well I would say one of you is talking rubbish. Cyclists are not obliged to use cycle lanes and an examiner would know that so he was either talking crap or you are telling a wee porky pie. And before anyone says it…I see what you said at the end.
ORC:
When I was taking my C+E test I had to overtake a cyclist on the road when there was a dedicated cycle lane available. The examiner actually said that the cyclist was obliged to use the dedicated cycle lane where one exists and should not be on the road.
This… the cycle lane is there for a reason. I didnt see any overgrown bushes in it…
And if you look at ORC’s edit he goes on to say the examiner was talking nonsense.
It amazes me that so many drivers here believe that because there’s a cycle lane he should be using it without considering that if there was no cycle lane the 3663 driver still drove like a prat.
See below … Im not glorifying the drivers actions. im just saying that the cyclist should have been in the lane meant for him. furthermore, to go up along side the driver and try to provoke him… well thats just asking for trouble. lol
grumpybum:
m1cks:
It amazes me that so many drivers here believe that because there’s a cycle lane he should be using it without considering that if there was no cycle lane the 3663 driver still drove like a prat.
Yeah - why should he it use it? I mean if the road has potholes on it we are allowed to mount the pavement to make our journey quicker right? [emoji38]
Yes, the 3663 driver did drive like a prat - if there had been no cycle lane there, he may not have tried to push him onto it - maybe that’s the point he was making, very badly, very dangerously, and is certainly no excuse. Definitely a prat and doesn’t help our public image.
I’m not going to justify or try and reason the cyclists reaction.
Cycle lanes near me have a 10 mph limit and most of these road riders are more than capable of doing 20-30 mph average. They are entitled to use the road regardless of the existence of a cycle lane.
As for the comments that they go out looking for footage - simple solution - don’t provide them with the fuel and there’s no fire.
As you can see there is a cycle path on the left, but he has no intention of using it. Do you actually think the HGV driver cut him up? In my opinion I don’t think he did; cutting someone up means bringing them to a complete stop. This cyclist is a menace to other vehicles and should be off the public road with this type of riding and aggression. Kudos to the driver for winding-up his window.
Well f**k me; looking at your photo I though you where one of those feminist fascist fighters; who demands reverse discrimination to the point where the white man is enslaved; when you started talking about Cyclists-vs-HGV drivers that is.
Well fewyee for that. Judging from your posting you appear to be a jok with a ■■■■
As you can see there is a cycle path on the left, but he has no intention of using it. Do you actually think the HGV driver cut him up? In my opinion I don’t think he did; cutting someone up means bringing them to a complete stop. This cyclist is a menace to other vehicles and should be off the public road with this type of riding and aggression. Kudos to the driver for winding-up his window.
Well f**k me; looking at your photo I though you where one of those feminist fascist fighters; who demands reverse discrimination to the point where the white man is enslaved; when you started talking about Cyclists-vs-HGV drivers that is.
Well fewyee for that. Judging from your posting you appear to be a jok with a ■■■■
^ Look,its joker83/bossanddriver/mcthakery trying to be a wise ■■■ (again) by using one of his many aliases and making himself look like a ■■■ (as usual)
As you can see there is a cycle path on the left, but he has no intention of using it. Do you actually think the HGV driver cut him up? In my opinion I don’t think he did; cutting someone up means bringing them to a complete stop. This cyclist is a menace to other vehicles and should be off the public road with this type of riding and aggression. Kudos to the driver for winding-up his window.
Well f**k me; looking at your photo I though you where one of those feminist fascist fighters; who demands reverse discrimination to the point where the white man is enslaved; when you started talking about Cyclists-vs-HGV drivers that is.
Well fewyee for that. Judging from your posting you appear to be a jok with a ■■■■
Ha, Ha…if I had one it’d be bigger than yours for sure.
As you can see there is a cycle path on the left, but he has no intention of using it. Do you actually think the HGV driver cut him up? In my opinion I don’t think he did; cutting someone up means bringing them to a complete stop. This cyclist is a menace to other vehicles and should be off the public road with this type of riding and aggression. Kudos to the driver for winding-up his window.
Well f**k me; looking at your photo I though you where one of those feminist fascist fighters; who demands reverse discrimination to the point where the white man is enslaved; when you started talking about Cyclists-vs-HGV drivers that is.
Well fewyee for that. Judging from your posting you appear to be a jok with a ■■■■
^ Look,its joker83/bossanddriver/mcthakery trying to be a wise ■■■ (again) by using one of his many aliases and making himself look like a ■■■ (as usual)
IndigoJo:
Cyclist and trucker here. The driver was clearly in the wrong because he should have given the cyclist room rather than pulling across close enough to knock him off. The cyclist did nothing wrong as he is perfectly entitled to use the road. “He should have been on the cycle path” isn’t an excuse, even if the road had signs saying “no cycling” (which they almost never do except certain bridges, tunnels etc). Cyclists often don’t use cycle paths because they often lose priority, have “cyclists dismount” signs at regular intervals, or peter out in the middle of nowhere. You can’t use physical violence against someone (that includes using an 18-tonne lorry as a weapon) because they annoy you by getting in your way.
you are correct in that the cyclist is not obliged to use the cycle lane,but it is bloody annoying when cycle lanes are there and they will not use them,and what have they protested about over the years,NOT ENOUGH CYCLE LANES, WE WANT MORE,then use the bloody things,its almost as if they do it to wind us drivers up or to cause arguments with their headcams
IndigoJo:
Cyclist and trucker here. The driver was clearly in the wrong because he should have given the cyclist room rather than pulling across close enough to knock him off. The cyclist did nothing wrong as he is perfectly entitled to use the road. “He should have been on the cycle path” isn’t an excuse, even if the road had signs saying “no cycling” (which they almost never do except certain bridges, tunnels etc). Cyclists often don’t use cycle paths because they often lose priority, have “cyclists dismount” signs at regular intervals, or peter out in the middle of nowhere. You can’t use physical violence against someone (that includes using an 18-tonne lorry as a weapon) because they annoy you by getting in your way.
you are correct in that the cyclist is not obliged to use the cycle lane,but it is bloody annoying when cycle lanes are there and they will not use them,and what have they protested about over the years,NOT ENOUGH CYCLE LANES, WE WANT MORE,then use the bloody things,its almost as if they do it to wind us drivers up or to cause arguments with their headcams
On my bike I use a cycle lane all the time, even if it slows me down a little as I can see this from both perspectives.
Not one yard of cycle lane in the entire UK is mandatory. It’s amazing how many pig-■■■■ thick drivers don’t know this. Per mile traveled cycle lanes are more dangerous for people on bikes than the road is. They yield priority, have hidden drives and exits, often have pedestrians and children wandering around avoiding the dog crap, parked cars and broken glass. If any driver ever expresses bafflement at why a cyclist shuns a cycle lane the driver is an idiot. Furthermore they are using the fact that the cyclist shuns inadequate facilities as a reason for encouraging hatred against the cyclist. Some very depressing and ignorant views on this thread. If you see a cyclist using the road rather than a cycle lane there’s almost certainly a very good reason for them to do so, and it’s none of your business.
Wow. And thought I was good at talking ■■■■■■■■. Cycle paths are built at great taxpayers expense, so that Lycra clad bellends are kept off the road. For THEIR safety.
WTF does it matter if its MANDATORY or not? If its there…USE IT.
PS. Another advantage of having a separate cycle lane is that I am less likely to suffer tyre damage from driving over your Raleigh Grifter.
roaduser66:
Not one yard of cycle lane in the entire UK is mandatory. It’s amazing how many pig-■■■■ thick drivers don’t know this. Per mile traveled cycle lanes are more dangerous for people on bikes than the road is. They yield priority, have hidden drives and exits, often have pedestrians and children wandering around avoiding the dog crap, parked cars and broken glass. If any driver ever expresses bafflement at why a cyclist shuns a cycle lane the driver is an idiot. Furthermore they are using the fact that the cyclist shuns inadequate facilities as a reason for encouraging hatred against the cyclist. Some very depressing and ignorant views on this thread. If you see a cyclist using the road rather than a cycle lane there’s almost certainly a very good reason for them to do so, and it’s none of your business.
What are your views on cyclists running red lights? Or going the wrong way up a one way street? Or the wrong way round a roundabout? Or riding on the pavement narrowly missing pedestrians?
Because I think you’ll find its the attitude of cyclists that they can do as they please and the rules don’t apply to them that breeds the hatred for cyclists by some drivers and has precious little to do with cycle lanes. Ive asked you repeatedly on here for your views and all you seem to be able to do is offer up statistics and ignore what goes on in the real world.
Do YOU think it is maybe time for cyclists to be more regulated before using the road? To show they understand the rules that apply and not just quote the ones that suit them? Do YOU think its maybe time to introduce a way of cyclists being identified much like vehicles? Because in my opinion, if there was a chance of getting caught then faw fewer cyclists would perform the moves they do at present. The way things are now they know full well nothing will ever come of it. THIS is why some drivers dont like cyclists ,despite what you want to believe
You are wasting your time frozen chap! The chaps rant has just broke my BELLENDOMETER. Only just got it mended after his idiot mate boredwivexistin clogged it up with verbal garbage.
eagerbeaver:
You are wasting your time frozen chap! The chaps rant has just broke my BELLENDOMETER. Only just got it mended after his idiot mate boredwivexistin clogged it up with verbal garbage.
Bit of Lycra should fix it.
Your right though. Both of them see what they want to see and ignore the rest (IE the real world) and keep on driving the rest of us to a coma
roaduser66:
Not one yard of cycle lane in the entire UK is mandatory. It’s amazing how many pig-■■■■ thick drivers don’t know this. Per mile traveled cycle lanes are more dangerous for people on bikes than the road is. They yield priority, have hidden drives and exits, often have pedestrians and children wandering around avoiding the dog crap, parked cars and broken glass. If any driver ever expresses bafflement at why a cyclist shuns a cycle lane the driver is an idiot. Furthermore they are using the fact that the cyclist shuns inadequate facilities as a reason for encouraging hatred against the cyclist. Some very depressing and ignorant views on this thread. If you see a cyclist using the road rather than a cycle lane there’s almost certainly a very good reason for them to do so, and it’s none of your business.
What are your views on cyclists running red lights? Or going the wrong way up a one way street? Or the wrong way round a roundabout? Or riding on the pavement narrowly missing pedestrians?
Because I think you’ll find its the attitude of cyclists that they can do as they please and the rules don’t apply to them that breeds the hatred for cyclists by some drivers and has precious little to do with cycle lanes. Ive asked you repeatedly on here for your views and all you seem to be able to do is offer up statistics and ignore what goes on in the real world.
Do YOU think it is maybe time for cyclists to be more regulated before using the road? To show they understand the rules that apply and not just quote the ones that suit them? Do YOU think its maybe time to introduce a way of cyclists being identified much like vehicles? Because in my opinion, if there was a chance of getting caught then faw fewer cyclists would perform the moves they do at present. The way things are now they know full well nothing will ever come of it. THIS is why some drivers dont like cyclists ,despite what you want to believe
cyclists should be insured,have a registration plate fitted and registered with the DVLA,so if they do damage vehicles they can be prosecuted after being found through their registration,good revenue for the government too,so yes I agree with that you say,they get away with far too much
in a previous post I had a moan at a cyclist,he caught me at the lights,to my surprise instead of an argument erupting he explained very politely why he did not use said cycle lane,ie the hazards he faced when using that particular route,i realised then and actually apologised for my little rant,first time for everything
This old chestnut come back again! My views on cyclist running red lights is simple, they shouldn’t do it, it’s against the law. I’m not going in for the “drivers do it so we can” palaver as its pointless. Why do they do it? Again it’s simple, they’re human beings, as such they will try to sneak an advantage, wether legally or illegally is irrelevant, and for the majority of the time it all works out fine, until it doesn’t. We all do it but it’s only when we see someone else do it that it bothers us, odd that.
Cycle lanes, great in theory, crap for the most part in fact. I use them when they are fit for purpose, that’s free from glass, stones & other debris, and aren’t being used as an extended vehicle park. Why do so many vehicle drivers refuse to park on their drive, preferring to block cycle lanes?
Registration has been tried, and failed, in many countries and cancelled due to the expense and its unworkability.
If we could stop all the garbage we see on the roads everyday, from all users, it would be great, but we all know it won’t happen so i I find its best not to stress over it, its human nature happening right in front of you.
BillyHunt:
This old chestnut come back again! My views on cyclist running red lights is simple, they shouldn’t do it, it’s against the law. I’m not going in for the “drivers do it so we can” palaver as its pointless. Why do they do it? Again it’s simple, they’re human beings, as such they will try to sneak an advantage, wether legally or illegally is irrelevant, and for the majority of the time it all works out fine, until it doesn’t. We all do it but it’s only when we see someone else do it that it bothers us, odd that.
Ive never ran a red light and I cant remember the last time I saw a vehicle run a red light either. Even at 2, 3 or 4 in the morning, if the light is red then the vehicles wait at it. Im not saying it doesnt happen,im saying it is a very rare occurance. Contrast that to any time of day or night and if I see a cyclist come up to the lights then im 80-90% certain they’ll have a glance then cycle right through.
And when you have guys coming on here demanding more protection while cycling and insulting everyone with a driving license as “out to get them” then im afraid it is totally relevant if it is illegal or not.
I agree with a lot of what you say on here,and at least you are a man of intelligence capable of putting your point across but im afraid to say they shouldnt do it and then give reasons to justify why they do is just as bad.
As I said earlier, the attitude of plenty cyclists of picking and choosing which laws they want to abide by and quote to others while ignoring any that they dont like is what causes the animosity. I personally dont give a monkeys whether a cyclist is on the road instead of the cycle lane. Ill get past, giving plenty room. But it bothers me when they demand more protection while condoning some of the suicidal manouveres you see every day and no bothering about their own safety and demanding drivers take more care.
… Im not glorifying the drivers actions. im just saying that the cyclist should have been in the lane meant for him. furthermore, to go up along side the driver and try to provoke him… well thats just asking for trouble. lol
