Had to drop a machine bucket off at a quarry near Cattrick yesterday went to sign in manager ask’s about safety gear got the lot I said seem’s ok till he see’s my steel toe capped dealer boots. This is when he goe’s off it you can not come into site with them on no problem will take bucket back to Newcastle, he did not like that bit what size boots are they he ask’s see if he had a spare pair no luck there so ready to leave and said to him got a pair of wellington boots in cab.You would think he had won the lottery great he said can you put them on, think I would have more safety around foot with dealer’s on than wellington’s must have been his wrong week. cheer’s bob
H&S as not "GONE"mad Bob It’s been mad since it started, I was one of 6 delivering new units to the post office,3 Where not allowed in because they didn’t have sleeves in their Hi Viz vests.they only had 1 spare in the gatehouse , so 2 had to wait outside for 2 of the others to walk back to the gate.
Try motorway road works recovery. You ain’t allowed out of the cab without:-
2 stripes on legs
2 stripes across chest
2 stripes over shoulder
2 stripes round sleeves
Steel cap boots, NOT Rigger,
Hard hat
Gloves
You are only allowed to get out of cab on N/S, unless casualty is in Lane 2 or 3.
When you do get out, there are HATO, in their florrie jacket
PLOD , with their bit of checker tape on the jacket
External steel toe caps have been banned from quarries etc for many years, as have riggers. Years ago I was given a British Rail orange jacket, designed so that drivers of HST’s etc could see workers at the trackside. I wore it to work once, was then told that it wasn’t visible enough for dumper driver’s etc to see it so had to wear the yellow one, a few years later the quarry bought orange jacket’s! 
Pete.
Worked for a company delivering to railway depots. Even though we weren’t trackside we weren’t allowed to wear yellow hivis, it had to be orange.
One of the other drivers had reflective black with the stripes in the right places. Good for night time but not for daytime as the flt drivers looked out for the orange.
Couldn’t wear orange and yellow mixed either. But their drivers wore trainers most of the time…
Health and Safety at work isn’t mad, it makes a lot of sense to be seen and have protective gear working round heavy machinery.
The problem is the people who think up and implement the policy and the insurance companies who roll over and pay any claim however stupid the persons who is claiming actions were leading up to the event.
So we now have a system that has to deal with the lowest common denominator in society and is implemented by a bunch of jobs worths who can’t or won’t think for themselves in case something happens, so they are happy in the knowledge they’ve covered there arse.
agreed, daft interpretation of H&S rules is frustrating!
However, I do need reminding to take precautions when delivering unknown products to unknown sites. People in the transport industry do occasionally get hurt and anything we can do to reduce this must be a good thing. I do not want to get hurt. Some flt drivers are surprised when I don’t want to stand on their wobbly forks so they can lift me to the top of a wobbly load. I say it contravenes H&S. They say all the other drivers don’t mind
Its incase your feet got wet. You could have sued them for a new pair of socks and damage to any manicured toenails.
Nothing wrong with health and safety but its when it goes from safety to silly where the problems lie.
I kid you not, I had to wear a helmet inside the cab at one of our places 
The rule was all drivers, and it was really for dumper truck fellas who had to wear a hard hat, absolute madness, which was loved by the security chaps on the gate.
I worked in a factory where the maximum weight you could lift was 15kg. There was a gauge set for a job we were doing that weighed 18kg so should have been put in 2 boxes. I put them in 1 box one day and carried them to the inspector so she could inspect them. Now she’d had a stomach tumour in the past and struggled with lifting so I carried the box into her inspection room and emptied it on to the table for her so she didn’t have to lift a thing.
The cretinous old bag went straight to the health and safety manager and grassed me up resulting in me being disciplined. Apparently I didn’t just break company law I broke THE law as no one at work is allowed to lift more than 15kg.
I’d love to see them prove that one 
Rooster:
I kid you not, I had to wear a helmet inside the cab at one of our placesThe rule was all drivers, and it was really for dumper truck fellas who had to wear a hard hat, absolute madness, which was loved by the security chaps on the gate.
stanlow oil refinery driver must wear a hard hat WITH CHIN STRAP safety goggles steel toe cap boots hi vis top and seat belt at all times whilst in the plant any vehicle NOT fitted with a seat belt will be refused entry !
at no time would i be exiting the cab as the load would be unstrapped by the forklift driver so wtf do i need a helmet with a chinstrap for ?
Latique:
Rooster:
I kid you not, I had to wear a helmet inside the cab at one of our placesThe rule was all drivers, and it was really for dumper truck fellas who had to wear a hard hat, absolute madness, which was loved by the security chaps on the gate.
stanlow oil refinery driver must wear a hard hat WITH CHIN STRAP safety goggles steel toe cap boots hi vis top and seat belt at all times whilst in the plant any vehicle NOT fitted with a seat belt will be refused entry !
at no time would i be exiting the cab as the load would be unstrapped by the forklift driver so wtf do i need a helmet with a chinstrap for ?
Had this problem at Teesport docks the other week , I was in a hire motor and didn’t have a hard hat , he was saying can’t let you on , even tho I was only dropping off and my twist locks were already undone before entering
Smoggie89:
Had this problem at Teesport docks the other week , I was in a hire motor and didn’t have a hard hat , he was saying can’t let you on , even tho I was only dropping off and my twist locks were already undone before entering
Jesus man, I thought it was obvious why you need one. Didn’t you know that a plastic hat will save your life if the container drops on your head? 
Conor:
Smoggie89:
Had this problem at Teesport docks the other week , I was in a hire motor and didn’t have a hard hat , he was saying can’t let you on , even tho I was only dropping off and my twist locks were already undone before enteringJesus man, I thought it was obvious why you need one. Didn’t you know that a plastic hat will save your life if the container drops on your head?
Lol I was saying to him I won’t need 1 anyway because I’m only dropping off , he said yeah but it’s for when you do them back up on the way out lol , I just agreed in the end
Picking empty pallets up from co-op at andover forkie couldnt put a stack of 15 on in one do , put 10 on then went back for another 5 and put them on top when i asked him why , it was good old elf and safety
Latique:
Rooster:
I kid you not, I had to wear a helmet inside the cab at one of our placesThe rule was all drivers, and it was really for dumper truck fellas who had to wear a hard hat, absolute madness, which was loved by the security chaps on the gate.
stanlow oil refinery driver must wear a hard hat WITH CHIN STRAP safety goggles steel toe cap boots hi vis top and seat belt at all times whilst in the plant any vehicle NOT fitted with a seat belt will be refused entry !
at no time would i be exiting the cab as the load would be unstrapped by the forklift driver so wtf do i need a helmet with a chinstrap for ?
Hiya…Ill tell you why that happens in stanlow …because we get forign truckers coming into the site wareing shorts and flit flops. don,t know where you got your load un strapped from
its very near impossible to get tipped in there on a good day. seat belts must be worn…rigger boots are banned(because they only have one piece of steel under the foot normal
steelies have two) always have your licence with you or you.ll not be alloud on site. headlights to be used at all times. no bikes with narrow tyres(they get stuck in the rail tracks)
some workers have been thrown off…(should look where they ride)hard hat with chin strap■■? not seen that one, even the supplied ones don.t have chinstraps.
you can get saftey glasses with variable +2.5 lenses supplied which are usefull.
John
H&S has gone mad, but we’ve only ourselves to blame. If an accident happens at work or we trip over a loose paving slab and break a bone then we try to sue someone. And there are plenty of blood sucking solicitor firms out there willing to help. So companies and government run establishments have no choice but to cover their backsides completely and then some.
It’s a tricky one cos if you are injured by someone elses negligence then you should be compensated. But it’s gone too far. Councils removing hanging flower baskets in high streets just in case one falls on someone. Kids not being allowed to play conkers in school in case a conker shatters and decapitates a child, signing off training records to say you know how to make a cup of tea safely so you can’t sue them for burns. Won’t be long before you have to sign a waver saying the air you breath is your responsibility.
A prime example is handing in keys and putting a lock on your airline and not being allowed to stay in your cab at certain RDC’s Because ONCE a lorry moved off whilst it was being loaded. OK that is a bad thing, but consider this. Six people DIE EVERY DAY on the roads in the UK. Somehow that is acceptable, but because someone once got a hurty toe cos a pallet fell on it, we all have to wear a hard hat, steel toe caps and body armour because they won £3000 for a broken toe.
A simple H&S rule that makes more sense than flashing beacons, “skills cards” and other crap on building sites is this notice on Bovis Homes sites;
“Get the thumbs up or get knocked down.” Basically don’t approach any plant unless the driver sees you.
I always think the flashing beacon rule is a bit daft. If people can’t see an 8wheeler then your eyesight is too poor to be of any use on a building site or quarry.
And talking of beacons, why have rotating ones been replaced with LEDs? Unless it’s a full roof bar they’re useless in comparison.
Those flashing beacons on recovery vehicles and the like are a pain. With all that orange flashing going on you can’t see if they are indicating or not. Highways agency vehicles often scoot along the hard shoulder with orange beacon lights flashing and they stay on the hard shoulder. But once in a while they pull out in front of you and you can’t see them indicate because they are already flashing orange in all directions! If there is a highways agency H&S bod looking at this then tell them to switch all flashys off if they are planning to change lanes.