With these high winds that have been about the last few days I was wondering if anyone has ever been blown over whilst behind the wheel of their trundle wagon ?
I’ve had a few squeaky bum moments in my time one in particular about 27 years ago which was extremely close but never went over.
I appreciate this thread is now open to a slight exaggeration of the truth !!
Only when I met the wife, love at first sight it was.
[See I do romance as well].
Not yet to be honest, when on a rigids carrying 32 X 10 portacabins many years ago things got a bit choppy.
Bit blowy yesterday saw me easing off and taking her steady, dancing around a bit on the M5 got me a little puckered up.
I have yet felt the need to ease off the gas and I pull a frame trailers.
Maybe the double decker guys notice it though.
Pulling 15 ft doubt Decker, I notice it. Not yet been blown over, but that’s probably more down to luck than anything else. May have something to do with not going over the Ouse Bridge when it’s closed to high siders, unlike some heroes yesterday.
Anything to get a day off work. 
think I once went up onto two wheels in a large box van, it frightened the bejesus out of me and I went and parked up until it all died down. Havn’t driven the type of stuff that blows over since. Once ended up at 45 degrees after being courteous and my near side sank into the muddy verge - took about a day and several tractors to pull her back out.
Nope, never felt the need to lift the shoe either.
Had daylight under the trailer tyres once, made bum buttons but she was all reet.
A.
Adonis.:
Nope, never felt the need to lift the shoe either.A.
I’ve always questioned “advice” given by folk who say you must slow down in high winds. Slow down by how much exactly? Does falling over at 40mph feel different from falling over at 50mph? Keep it going ffs, it’s the exposure to a sudden side wind caused by a break in the trees etc that’ll have you over so why not lessen the exposure to it by travelling faster?
To answer the o/p though no I’ve never come close in a lorry, however in my brief foray into international light haulage I very nearly got blown over somewhere on the Spanish tundra in a Sprinter panel van. It very nearly made me put my seatbelt on!
Van and trailer gone over on the humber bridge. Worth avoiding the area for the time being.
the maoster:
Adonis.:
Nope, never felt the need to lift the shoe either.A.
I’ve always questioned “advice” given by folk who say you must slow down in high winds. Slow down by how much exactly? Does falling over at 40mph feel different from falling over at 50mph? Keep it going ffs, it’s the exposure to a sudden side wind caused by a break in the trees etc that’ll have you over so why not lessen the exposure to it by travelling faster?
To answer the o/p though no I’ve never come close in a lorry, however in my brief foray into international light haulage I very nearly got blown over somewhere on the Spanish tundra in a Sprinter panel van. It very nearly made me put my seatbelt on!
Exactly my thinking, trailers get blown over sitting still, I don’t think the wind cares if I’m doing 40 50 or 60, wrong place at the wrong time and some bad luck and you’re going over, regardless of the speed.
I’m sure some fandan will be along to tell is that’s wrong and the only solution is to cry and park up because of the breeze.
A.
Adonis.:
the maoster:
Adonis.:
Nope, never felt the need to lift the shoe either.A.
I’ve always questioned “advice” given by folk who say you must slow down in high winds. Slow down by how much exactly? Does falling over at 40mph feel different from falling over at 50mph? Keep it going ffs, it’s the exposure to a sudden side wind caused by a break in the trees etc that’ll have you over so why not lessen the exposure to it by travelling faster?
To answer the o/p though no I’ve never come close in a lorry, however in my brief foray into international light haulage I very nearly got blown over somewhere on the Spanish tundra in a Sprinter panel van. It very nearly made me put my seatbelt on!
Exactly my thinking, trailers get blown over sitting still, I don’t think the wind cares if I’m doing 40 50 or 60, wrong place at the wrong time and some bad luck and you’re going over, regardless of the speed.
I’m sure some fandan will be along to tell is that’s wrong and the only solution is to cry and park up because of the breeze.
A.
I disagree. Think of the side winds acting as a force on the trailer in the same way as the forces that are applied when youre cornering. Common sense says to slow down for corners. Why should a cross wind be any different?
the maoster:
Adonis.:
Nope, never felt the need to lift the shoe either.A.
I’ve always questioned “advice” given by folk who say you must slow down in high winds. Slow down by how much exactly? Does falling over at 40mph feel different from falling over at 50mph? Keep it going ffs, it’s the exposure to a sudden side wind caused by a break in the trees etc that’ll have you over so why not lessen the exposure to it by travelling faster?
To answer the o/p though no I’ve never come close in a lorry, however in my brief foray into international light haulage I very nearly got blown over somewhere on the Spanish tundra in a Sprinter panel van. It very nearly made me put my seatbelt on!
by virtue of falling over at 0 mph is going to be less risky than falling over at a 100mph, then yes, 40 will probably hurt less than 50.
But does going slower reduce the risk of tipping over ? I don’t know, I suspect it don’t help at all. May be the higher gyroscopic forces of the wheels spinning faster could help to keep you upright, but I would suspect the help would be so minimal not to worth considering?
Only came close in 3.5t curtainsiders.
On the A299 Thanet way nr the Viking pub .
That was caused by trees causing a funnel for the wind .
O/S rear wheels had over a foot of clear daylight and N/S had bent the mudflap and wheel arch .
Then a couple of years ago got blown sideways on the A14 again caused by a gap in the trees .
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Captain Caveman 76:
Why should a cross wind be any different?
Because you’ve immediately reduced the time of exposure to these lateral forces. Maybe I’ve just been lucky though.
adam277:
I have yet felt the need to ease off the gas and I pull a frame trailers.
Maybe the double decker guys notice it though.
If you haven’t needed to back off then the drive axle didn’t get off the ground. 
( night trunk M4 Westbound Heathrow junction flyover artic box trailer full of empty cages during the height of the Great Storm of 1987 ) never experienced anything like it anywhere before or since.
As for a proper drawbar you’re not relying on just a small light unit to hold the unbroken length and height of a semi trailer acting as a bleedin great big sail on the ground. 
Captain Caveman 76:
I disagree. Think of the side winds acting as a force on the trailer in the same way as the forces that are applied when youre cornering. Common sense says to slow down for corners. Why should a cross wind be any different?
The wind and corners are totally different.
A.
Captain Caveman 76:
Adonis.:
I disagree. Think of the side winds acting as a force on the trailer in the same way as the forces that are applied when youre cornering. Common sense says to slow down for corners. Why should a cross wind be any different?
because the sideways forces increase the faster you corner, the speed of the wind will not be altered whether you are going fast or slow.
Actually that last bit could well be wrong, the faster you go the less the wind will be from the side. Think about a weather vane on the top of a lorry,
on a windless day driving at 50mph it will point exactly forward
whilst parked in a 50mph side wind the vane would point 90 degrees to the side exactly into the wind,
driving at 50mph with a 50mph side wind and that vane will point at 45 degrees
therefor the faster you go the less sideways force the wind should have?
think its called ‘apparent wind’ where’s him with the boat - raymundo ? he could add some light on this
the maoster:
Captain Caveman 76:
Why should a cross wind be any different?Because you’ve immediately reduced the time of exposure to these lateral forces. Maybe I’ve just been lucky though.
By that argument I should speed up through corners. Personally, I too think that luck plays a big part I staying upright. All you can do is TRY and stack the odds in your favour.
Adonis.:
Captain Caveman 76:
I disagree. Think of the side winds acting as a force on the trailer in the same way as the forces that are applied when youre cornering. Common sense says to slow down for corners. Why should a cross wind be any different?The wind and corners are totally different.
A.
The only difference is the source of the force acting on the trailer. The result of a sideways force acting on the vehicle is the same.
I’m happy to be corrected if you know otherwise.
Came close on eight wheeled tippers, had rear wheels airborne twice when tipping in high wind on a paving machine. Back in the sixties I was passenger in an empty BMC pantechnicon on the A4 near Macs Cafe and the engine speed rose rapidly when the wind lifted a set of wheels off of the tarmac but balance was regained and pants saved!
Pete.
