iam 20 years old and wanting to do my class 2 and i dont no wat company to go with ither kent metro or gordon springgate only thing is kent metro is really dear but i dont no any one that has used gordon spring gate would like some help with this
hi there,i done my class c with kent metro 3 years ago and they were first class i am doing my c+e with them next month ask for terry as instructor…that is my personal opinion though and in fairness to gordon springate they have good reviews on here and i have heard are a bit cheaper but you could mention that to kent metro and they might match them price wise to keep you,i am gonna try to get discount remember its a difficult time at mo…good luck and let us know who you choose.where abouts are you in kent…
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I was looking at both of these companies to do my c+e with. from what i hear they are both good companies from people I have spoken to that have previously passed with them. the thing to remember is that gordon springate only offer 2 to one training so you maybe lucky to get 4 hours driving per day a for a 5 day course i was qouted £1113.00 quids so for 4 days and test with them i would be lucky to get 18-20 hours driving. where as kent metro are offering me for £1052 28 hours one to one. so are they really more expensive?
joedwyer1:
gordon springate only offer 2 to one training so you maybe lucky to get 4 hours driving per day a for a 5 day course i was qouted £1113.00 quids so for 4 days and test with them i would be lucky to get 18-20 hours driving. where as kent metro are offering me for £1052 28 hours one to one. so are they really more expensive?
We have had this debate many times about 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 training
If the 1 to 1 is for half days then that’s fine but any more than that is really pushing the human limits of concentration and trying to LEARN when tired has a huge downside
If the 1 to 1 is more than 4 hours per day then you are likely to spend more of that time resting for the reason I gave above
2 to 1 all day is ok as the drivers swap over on a regular basis to rest
£1052 for 4 hours per day over 7 days on 1 to 1 seems good value to me
WHAT SUITS YOU is the one to go for - your money, your choice
yeah i think its good value too rog.
but would some one who is driving cat c for 7,8 or 9 hours per day 5 days per week like my self really struggle to learn c+e for maybe 8 hours minus breaks etc?
even if you only did 20 hours with kml. which is roughly what you would get else where with the standard 4 days then test on the 5 th that still comes out at £752 plus the test fee. imo thats pretty good
joedwyer1:
but would some one who is driving cat c for 7,8 or 9 hours per day 5 days per week like my self really struggle to learn c+e for maybe 8 hours minus breaks etc?
You have a double concentration factor - driving & learning - the human brain cannot sustain this level for long periods in the majority of cases
Most of the trainees I had for all day C+E asked me to either take over or make sure they were back in the yard from early afternnon as they were simply too tired to continue safely.
I could have given them more downtime in the morning but what’s the point of that as it still reduced the actual ‘behind the wheel’ time.
The all-day training for C & CE courses was the hidden reason that I was falsely pushed out of my last instructing job as I challenged the management on doing this as it was unsafe to make trainees drive when tired.
The management insisted that trainees had paid for all day so should be made to drive all-day no matter what!!
The management did not want any possible come-back from trainees when they realised that doing all-day training was not a realistic thing to do.
i did my class 2 there with an instructor called wally they were cheaper than anyone else in the area and will also do a you a better deal if you pay CASH!
Not again Rog. In your opinion you think 2 to 1 is better.
1-1 training in 6.5 hour day in a nice relaxed atmosphere only driver and instructor including reversing practice wins hands down for me.
elmet training:
Not again Rog. In your opinion you think 2 to 1 is better.
I never said or intimated that !!
Either is right if that is what is best for the trainee
As long as a company can give them a CHOICE then I see no problems.
What gets me is when a company can only offer 1 to 1 and they tell the trainee that is the best way…
yes i used them 2 years ago very good passed first time.
who kml?
thanks for the advice mate just booked it today saying to gordon springate that i want 1 to 1 traing they tryed pushing the 2 to 1 with me as ive got a freind that does lorry driving for a living he said 1 to 1 is better and kent metro would not drop there price they quoted me 1350 for 5 days
ROG:
joedwyer1:
gordon springate only offer 2 to one training so you maybe lucky to get 4 hours driving per day a for a 5 day course i was qouted £1113.00 quids so for 4 days and test with them i would be lucky to get 18-20 hours driving. where as kent metro are offering me for £1052 28 hours one to one. so are they really more expensive?We have had this debate many times about 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 training
If the 1 to 1 is for half days then that’s fine but any more than that is really pushing the human limits of concentration and trying to LEARN when tired has a huge downside
If the 1 to 1 is more than 4 hours per day then you are likely to spend more of that time resting for the reason I gave above2 to 1 all day is ok as the drivers swap over on a regular basis to rest
£1052 for 4 hours per day over 7 days on 1 to 1 seems good value to me
WHAT SUITS YOU is the one to go for - your money, your choice
thanks for the advice i booked with gordon springate 1 to 1 today kent metro are to dear they qouted me 1350 for 5 days
joedwyer1:
I was looking at both of these companies to do my c+e with. from what i hear they are both good companies from people I have spoken to that have previously passed with them. the thing to remember is that gordon springate only offer 2 to one training so you maybe lucky to get 4 hours driving per day a for a 5 day course i was qouted £1113.00 quids so for 4 days and test with them i would be lucky to get 18-20 hours driving. where as kent metro are offering me for £1052 28 hours one to one. so are they really more expensive?
And by the same token, there are companies out there offering 2 - 1 training with the trainee sat on the bunk! i wander what their insurance would make of that!!
ROG:
elmet training:
Not again Rog. In your opinion you think 2 to 1 is better.I never said or intimated that !!
Either is right if that is what is best for the trainee
As long as a company can give them a CHOICE then I see no problems.What gets me is when a company can only offer 1 to 1 and they tell the trainee that is the best way…
tomsd1989,how much did springates charge you for 1 to 1 and for how many days
and were they full days or just 4 per day for 5 days?
yea there full days they charged me 1 to 1 £970
joedwyer1:
and were they full days or just 4 per day for 5 days?
is that with springates. how did you manage to swing that? they wanted £1110 of me for 2 to one. i cant see how they could charge you less? especially if they have only got one paying student in the truck rather than two?
I must admit to being a bit lost here…is that £970 for 1 to 1 ALL DAY for 5 days!!!