Here is a question should the hard shoulder be used for stopping uninsured cars or should they be escorted to a nearby services or slip road where it can be dealt with in a safe area.
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I would say they should be escorted to nearest services. Anything sat in the hard shoulder is a hazard and so should only be there in unavoidable circumstances such as breakdowns. I hate stuff being there if am loaded as load will protrude into hard shoulder slightly. You spot something in there, put your indicator on to take lane 2 and almost every time it’s nearly impossible to move out as everyone ignores you and continues to rush by on your offside, even when lane 3 is clear.
Maybe the old bill have found stopping vehicles ASAP doesn’t give the illegal driver the same opportunity to cut and run.
You could also argue its the officer’s responsibility to get the uninsured (likely to prove unlicenced too) driver off the road soon as.
You don’t see the old bill pulling up cars on the hard shoulder very often these days, they usually find a wider section where possible.
mdourish:
Here is a question should the hard shoulder be used for stopping uninsured cars or should they be escorted to a nearby services or slip road where it can be dealt with in a safe area.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
If the hard shoulder is just a hard shoulder (and not par of a “smart” motorway, as in sometimes being used as a live lane) then I don’t see a problem. People stop there all the time to take a ■■■■/stretch their legs.
ETS:
mdourish:
Here is a question should the hard shoulder be used for stopping uninsured cars or should they be escorted to a nearby services or slip road where it can be dealt with in a safe area.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
If the hard shoulder is just a hard shoulder (and not par of a “smart” motorway, as in sometimes being used as a live lane) then I don’t see a problem. People stop there all the time to take a ■■■■/stretch their legs.
Or even pray towards the bingo hall
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its a danger to other road users when they give soeone a tug on the hard shoulder instead of taking them off at the next exit.
twce in this month alone ive had to unexpectedly swerve back into lane 1 from running up the hard shoulder alongside my mate in lane 1 watching his porny videos in the middle of the night.
theres no point in using lane 2 as theres always someone else there watching as well.
dont they realise the danger they are putting everyone in?
From a safety perspective it would make sense to ■■■■■■ vehicles off of the motorway and the Filth always go ballistic if they find somebody stopped on the hard shoulder without good reason on TV programmes. I imagine the reason they do it themselves is because that’s what they are instructed to do, on the grounds of “visible policing”.
I personally would refuse to sit in the back of a Police car if pulled for something on the hard shoulder, I’d be at high risk if a truck or even a car ran into the back of it.
Would that be an arrestable offence refusing to comply with their request or what ?
robroy:
I personally would refuse to sit in the back of a Police car if pulled for something on the hard shoulder, I’d be at high risk if a truck or even a car ran into the back of it.
Would that be an arrestable offence refusing to comply with their request or what ?
Passing the attitude test and asking politely if the officer minded following you to the first suitable stopping point away from the main traffic flow would i expect be met with a reasonable answer, in everyone’s interest including plod’s.
Juddian:
robroy:
I personally would refuse to sit in the back of a Police car if pulled for something on the hard shoulder, I’d be at high risk if a truck or even a car ran into the back of it.
Would that be an arrestable offence refusing to comply with their request or what ?Passing the attitude test and asking politely if the officer minded following you to the first suitable stopping point away from the main traffic flow would i expect be met with a reasonable answer, in everyone’s interest including plod’s.
Politeness, tact and diplomacy?..yep I can do that. 
As a general rule, the policy would be to ■■■■■■ to a suitable safe place - be it a service area or simply one of those “extended” bits of hard shoulder. An uninsured driver on the road doesn’t pose any immediate risk to the safety of other road users unless he is also seriously DLAC. As with most such things, it’s a judgement call at the time having due regard to all the circumstances…
robroy:
I personally would refuse to sit in the back of a Police car if pulled for something on the hard shoulder, I’d be at high risk if a truck or even a car ran into the back of it.
Would that be an arrestable offence refusing to comply with their request or what ?
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unless you are being arrested then there is no requirement to leave your cab or enter the plodmobile.
it wont exactly help you pass the attitude test,but you dont need to even open your window to them so long as you can hear them and vise versa,nor is it a requirement to answer any of their pishy condescending questions.
getting arrested id different,but apart from that you dont need to listen to their brain dead conversation if you dont want to.
charge me,or ■■■■ off and tell it to someone who cares is a legal enough answer to treat them with the contempt that most of them deserve.
Not long ago was in car with a mate and like the idiot he is he ran out of fuel.
Parked up on the hardshoulder pulled right over half on the grass part.
Got some fuel from local tesco.
In meantime highways agency came out stuck a load of cones along the hard should lights flashing to warn other road users.
When fuelled they said right you can’t rejoin the motorway. We will go around come back create a rolling roadblock. When you see us coming up you can join the motorway.
So we waited n waited n waited after 15 mins we gave up waiting and joined motorway. As slip roads were only 5 mins apart if that
edd1974:
Not long ago was in car with a mate and like the idiot he is he ran out of fuel.
Parked up on the hardshoulder pulled right over half on the grass part.
Got some fuel from local tesco.
In meantime highways agency came out stuck a load of cones along the hard should lights flashing to warn other road users.
When fuelled they said right you can’t rejoin the motorway. We will go around come back create a rolling roadblock. When you see us coming up you can join the motorway.
So we waited n waited n waited after 15 mins we gave up waiting and joined motorway. As slip roads were only 5 mins apart if that
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another classic example as to why wombles are about as much use as ■■■■ on a bull.
i wonder what complete and utter pish reason they would try to justify that action with apart from the magic excuse of " health and safety"
Why do many truck drivers think it’s acceptable to have a break on the hard shoulder?
mdourish:
Here is a question should the hard shoulder be used for stopping uninsured cars or should they be escorted to a nearby services or slip road where it can be dealt with in a safe area.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
Not always realistic when the next services/exit could be several miles away (and on some motorways that is the case).
dieseldog999:
nor is it a requirement to answer any of their pishy condescending questions.
Unless you’re being asked the names and addresses of drivers and others, and to require production of evidence of insurance or security and test certificates.
Harry Monk:
From a safety perspective it would make sense to ■■■■■■ vehicles off of the motorway and the Filth always go ballistic if they find somebody stopped on the hard shoulder without good reason on TV programmes. I imagine the reason they do it themselves is because that’s what they are instructed to do, on the grounds of “visible policing”.
The reason they do so is because they have an exemption.
There is a legal requirement for you to stop for a constable in uniform by virtue s163 Road Traffic Act 1988.
Regulation 16 of The Motorways Traffic (England & Wales) Regulations 1982 (as amended by The Motorway Traffic Regulations 2004) provides that you are exempt from stopping on the hard shoulder under the directions of a constable in uniform or traffic officer in uniform. (Regulation 16 also provides their own exemption from stopping on the hard shoulder & other exemptions from Motorway rules).
robroy:
I personally would refuse to sit in the back of a Police car if pulled for something on the hard shoulder, I’d be at high risk if a truck or even a car ran into the back of it.
Would that be an arrestable offence refusing to comply with their request or what ?
Under the Police Act 1996 s89 it is an offence to resist wilfully obstruct a constable in the execution of his/her duty.
Willful obstruction of a police officer means doing any act which makes it more difficult for the officer to carry out their lawful duty e.g. stopping them doing something, de-arresting someone, deliberately misleading them, or giving a false name and/or address.
