Long distance clara:
Here we ago again another thread on DCPC.
Like Shep my DCPC courses are as little as 40 pound so not even a pond a week to keep your job. Imo the driver should be given this course by their company.
I have delivered courses on a daily basis since this come into force and as stated many a times I have never had bad feedback.
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I do not understand drivers paying 80 pound a course thats day light robbery. If taught correctly by the right person everyone will learn something. you will be amazed how poor the drivers knowledge really is. We are not always there to teach we are there to refresh your knowledge as a lot of drivers forget the rules as they get stuck in a rut doing the same sort of work day in day out. .
Bottom line is either do it or get a new career from what I have seen so far most of the drivers who turn up with attitude are the ones who know the least and imo the industry will be a better place without them.
Shep can you pm you details it could be good to have another trainer to network with
So where is all the mayhem now that this farce is going to prevent! You as a provider have a vested interest in promoting DCPC and just like the people who jumped on the bandwagon of the Information packs for homebuyers scandal which got dropped this farce will be delayed or radically altered as Ive said numerous times on here. It is unsustainable and in the end people wont be panicked into it just like the big digital TV changeover that hasnt fully happened
Of course the training providers will sing the praises of DCPC; It’s their livelihood, just like an diversity manager at the local council offices would say they do a necesssary job when we all know it’s a non-job just to keep unemployment figures down. It’s not about road safety, or everybody with a car license would be made to take it, it’s a money-making, job-creating, load of crap that you’d expect to come from the same waste of space that tells us to let in all of Eastern Europes’ finest scrotes. I had a course on “Driver Welfare”; it was the most pointless course I’ve ever done; (and I’ve done 3x Epic courses, 2 on tippers, 1 on plant )
I was given such pearls of wisdom such as guessing the calories in a Big Mac meal, dangers of smoking, stress and all the other crap you get at school. Apparently, “Customer Service” is a future module for us; that’ll be fun
Long distance clara:
Here we ago again another thread on DCPC.
Like Shep my DCPC courses are as little as 40 pound so not even a pond a week to keep your job. Imo the driver should be given this course by their company.
I have delivered courses on a daily basis since this come into force and as stated many a times I have never had bad feedback.
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I do not understand drivers paying 80 pound a course thats day light robbery. If taught correctly by the right person everyone will learn something. you will be amazed how poor the drivers knowledge really is. We are not always there to teach we are there to refresh your knowledge as a lot of drivers forget the rules as they get stuck in a rut doing the same sort of work day in day out. .
Bottom line is either do it or get a new career from what I have seen so far most of the drivers who turn up with attitude are the ones who know the least and imo the industry will be a better place without them.
Shep can you pm you details it could be good to have another trainer to network with
Agree with you on the need for some form of driver retraining, the questions posted and the amount of misinformation on this forum from time to time are proof of that.
I have been in the industry as a driver and owner driver for 40 years and certainly do not profess to know everything but have a certain amount of experience. I did both my national and international CPC by correspondence course so that time off work was kept to a minimum. The present system has no examination, presence at a lecture being the only requirement,in my view unsatisfactory, a correspondence course plus examination would be more effective and convenient for many.
My son is now an owner driver and as well as the cost of courses he has to have another five days of enforced non earning, standing costs don’t stop !! You will probably say that it is only one day a year but in order to guarantee a specific day off sometimes results in two days off and in the present climate it is difficult enough to make a living.
I am now retired and only drive for 2/3 weeks a year, to give my son a holiday, I will not be attending any DCPC courses and if caught out in the future I will pay the fine, the cheaper option.
£40 a day quite reasonable, please let everyone know where this price is available, in my case in the Lancashire area.
matamoros:
Agree with you on the need for some form of driver retraining, the questions posted and the amount of misinformation on this forum from time to time are proof of that.
Many of the questions asked on these forums are a direct result of the misinformation dished out by DCPC trainers.
matamoros:
Agree with you on the need for some form of driver retraining, the questions posted and the amount of misinformation on this forum from time to time are proof of that.
Many of the questions asked on these forums are a direct result of the misinformation dished out by DCPC trainers.
Can’t argue with that, I have no personal experience of DCPC training but if true then the whole scheme is totally pointless.My son has recently started running a truck with digital tachograph so went on a one day course on tacho’s for DCPC and didn’t come away a whole lot wiser, and he’s not thick.
limeyphil:
but there isn’t any specific syllabus for the DCPC, so what is actually stopping someone from doing it this way?
There is a syllabus. Any courses submitted for approval have to fit the criteria or they don’t get approved.
Apart from that - the reason this isn’t done is because the rules state it must be 7 hours of contact with a trainer - whether he’s a ■■■■ or half decent - you gotta be there with him for the 7 hours.
Pete
Premises also have to be approved and inspected, instructors approved and watched in action.Thought about doing it myself but too much hassle, one area of the transport industry where big bucks are to be made though !! Look at an example, 10 people pay £80 each for a one day course, total £800. Rent a room for a day, say £100. Pay instructor say £150, lay on a few butties, £50 Total costs £200.Even if you allow another £100 forworksheets etc profit still around £ 500.
Only an educated guess but nice work if you can get it. My guess is that the buddies of the politicians that brought the law in will have their noses in the trough.
That’s a fine theory… as far as it goes.
Did you forget the center approval fee, the course approval fees and the upload fees?
Oh, and of course you’d have to buy some equipment and have PL insurance.
After your own calculations and apportioning the few things I’ve thought of, there’d be a fair hole in the £800 in your scenario.
dieseldave:
That’s a fine theory… as far as it goes.
DD, shep532 has already covered everything you mentioned
Must be an echo in here…o
Hi macplaxton,
That’s a fair point.
I had intended to write the following on the end of my post, but the phone rang…
… I’ve considered becoming a DCPC provider, but decided against it because IMHO, there’s not enough revenue per course since I couldn’t get enough people together at the same time to make it viable once all the expenses have been taken into account.
When “trainers” were first used in our quarries, one approached our knavvy driver (40+ years with us) and said “I can’t drive it, but I know how it should be done”…Response from old Vic was “Kindly pi55 off and come back when you can!”
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