Hands on experience should count

i’ve had an idea regarding the DCPC. you turn up at work, and the DCPC man dishes out some paperwork, then off you go for the practical side of the training. at the end of the week, the DCPC man will see you back at the yard, then shuffle a bit more paperwork about. you then you pay him a few quid, and he uploads your details to jaupt.
you get your wages, he gets his money, and you are officially a safer driver as you have a card to prove it. everybody’s happy.
does this sound like a mad, daft, and crazy idea?
probably.
but there isn’t any specific syllabus for the DCPC, so what is actually stopping someone from doing it this way?

however, in saying this. i will never do the dcpc regardless of how it is done.

do you really need a dcpc card to do what you have been doing for 20+years i think not.

danthevan:
do you really need a dcpc card to do what you have been doing for 20+years i think not.

of course you do.
didn’t you realise, that after 20 odd years of driving experience, you become a danger to other road users, and a menace to society unless you pay money. once you pay this money you are safe again. :laughing:

danthevan:
do you really need a dcpc card to do what you have been doing for 20+years i think not.

Seeing as the Government have passed the relevant legislation and it is now law then yes you do.

danthevan:
do you really need a dcpc card to do what you have been doing for 20+years i think not.

Sorry but that’s a failed argument, the job today is very different to what it was 20+ years ago.

danthevan:
do you really need a dcpc card to do what you have been doing for 20+years i think not.

What if you’ve been doing something wrong for 20 years, does that make it right?

Stevie

Getting my tin hat out before I even post this; it’s a DRIVER cpc so I have always wondered why a driving test is not one of the modules.

xtruckerlady:
Getting my tin hat out before I even post this; it’s a DRIVER cpc so I have always wondered why a driving test is not one of the modules.

Should be…

I have had my class 2 for just over 12 months now and class 1 since may. I hate it when I walk into work and find that I am more qualified than the old boys who have been doing it since they were lads. I have a lot of respect for my elders and don’t see why they should be made to prove them selves after 20 / 30 years plus on the job…

It’s just another scam, think a out it… Photo licence must be renewed @£20 did card @ £19 medicals @£too much and then this ■■■■■■ DCPC… Just another government scheme / scam / cash cow…

xtruckerlady:
Getting my tin hat out before I even post this; it’s a DRIVER cpc so I have always wondered why a driving test is not one of the modules.

Because Lucinda doesn’t need a DCPC to take Dobbin to the gymkhana

Limeyphil, i didnt even read your original post (O P), but some how I know enough about you to know you are a ■■■■ without even reading you OP.

No offence like

thelorryist:

xtruckerlady:
Getting my tin hat out before I even post this; it’s a DRIVER cpc so I have always wondered why a driving test is not one of the modules.

Should be…

I have had my class 2 for just over 12 months now and class 1 since may. I hate it when I walk into work and find that I am more qualified than the old boys who have been doing it since they were lads.

Just curious, In what way are you more qualified than the older drivers ?

As our man has done his initial DCPC and the old codgers havent done their DCPC he is more qualified because he holds a relevant qualification that his work mates dont yet have.See, simples.

alamcculloch:
As our man has done his initial DCPC and the old codgers havent done their DCPC he is more qualified because he holds a relevant qualification that his work mates dont yet have.See, simples.

I doubt he could have meant that, the driver CPC only qualifies you to drive LGVs commercially, I assume the other drivers are also qualified to drive LGVs commercially otherwise hopefully they wouldn’t be doing it.

See, simples :wink:

As I dont have a DCPC now am I a danger? and if so why am I along with all the rest driving around at the moment? or are the dangers going to manifest themselves in 2014. I hadbt been in a wagon for twenty years till last April and jumped in and did the job uneventfully within a few hours. The sentiment is well meant but in reality a great shakeup will occur in haulage in the next decade and heavy haulage will decrease as young folk dont want the lifestyle at any cost. While I appreciate there will be exceptions it is demonstrated already by the rising average age of drivers. I came back as a last resort as do many but a young lad with a goodlooking wife and family doesnt want to be away all week, they are used to a decent way of life and whynot? We are a dying industry in its current form, I will be denegrated for my vieews but am rarely wrong about my future vision, time will tell but transport as we know it is unsustainable.

nolans not paying for your dcpc then phil?.. :slight_smile:

There is going to be an even bigger shake up in the bus game where a lot of retired folk drive the school jobs as its only a couple of hours per day.I have spoken to lots of older guys who say that when the DCPC nonsense comes in they will be out of the game. Who could possibly say to a driver who has been doing the job since 1965 that he now requires training.

limeyphil:
but there isn’t any specific syllabus for the DCPC, so what is actually stopping someone from doing it this way?

There is a syllabus. Any courses submitted for approval have to fit the criteria or they don’t get approved.

Apart from that - the reason this isn’t done is because the rules state it must be 7 hours of contact with a trainer - whether he’s a ■■■■ or half decent - you gotta be there with him for the 7 hours.

Pete

alamcculloch:
There is going to be an even bigger shake up in the bus game where a lot of retired folk drive the school jobs as its only a couple of hours per day.I have spoken to lots of older guys who say that when the DCPC nonsense comes in they will be out of the game. Who could possibly say to a driver who has been doing the job since 1965 that he now requires training.

Why don’t they just do the DCPC instead of becoming unemployed? There are potentialy quite a few subjects that could be covered by the DCPC that they have probably never received training in. For example First Aid - an excellent skill to have for your own private life - never mind when you have a bus full of people. if they are already qualified in First Aid - it’ll need refreshing periodically anyway and that can be DCPC.

I know I’m going to get slated for my comments but I just don’t get it. I offer courses from £40 per 7 hours. That works out at just about 15p per working day per year to keep yer job. less than the price of a ■■■? (Dunno - I don’t smoke)

I don’t drive for a living anymore - but i’ve still got my DCPC done just in case. it aint going to go away. it’s going to change over the next few years. there will be compulsory subjects and the scheme will branch out to encompass less than 3.5 tons and possibly even Taxi drivers. Anyone driving for a living.

shep532:

alamcculloch:
There is going to be an even bigger shake up in the bus game where a lot of retired folk drive the school jobs as its only a couple of hours per day.I have spoken to lots of older guys who say that when the DCPC nonsense comes in they will be out of the game. Who could possibly say to a driver who has been doing the job since 1965 that he now requires training.

you said:
It aint going to go away.

I bet theres a delay in implementation or radical alteration

I have heard (drivers B.S. possibly) that the Dutch are exempting drivers who were born before 1953. and that E.U. countries can implement the DCPC as they see fit.I have done 2 modules so far ,sitting beside sleepy and bored drivers.