Had the usual bank holiday work phone call!

Evil8Beezle:

dozy:
Your lucky ours don’t even ask , txt recieved 16.40 today , on Monday go with a flat to ------- and pick up a load of pallets for 3 drops in Bradford ( I work tues- sat :unamused: )
P.s not a zb chance :exclamation:

So what are you going to do mate?
Have you told them no, or you just going to be a no show?
Is this still ES, or a new firm seeing if you’re reemable? :wink:

I’m spending 2 days with my girl ( unless that bloody boyfriend turns up on our doorstep ) , I rang him and said I wasn’t working mon as I’d done 70 + hrs and that was enough for me , but to be fair he did say he’d got his days mixed up and it was actually my work for tues , he did seem genuine and said that was my job tues so it sounds plausible .
I’m day hired too another company , my planner is from that company , i work for mib , ws ,explore , too be honest Im not sure who I work for .

the nodding donkey:

dozy:
Your lucky ours don’t even ask , txt recieved 16.40 today , on Monday go with a flat to ------- and pick up a load of pallets for 3 drops in Bradford ( I work tues- sat :unamused: )
P.s not a zb chance :exclamation:

Do you still use the green lube?

Dropped my unit in for service yesterday afternoon, picking it up on Tuesday morning. About 7ish. None of this stupid o’clock starting either.

You took the job. Either put up or shut up. Grow a pair or find a new job. I’d suggest night security guard.

i didn’t take the job at all , I was tuped over from innovate , as for security guard why would I do that , I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector , worked at rolls Royce , aveling barford , kontacks etc .
Don’t speak for me , your option other than lorry driving maybe security guard at morrisons but mine wouldn’t be :unamused: :unamused:

blue estate:

Winseer:
Before finishing my shift friday morning, I ask the boss “Do you want me in tonight on overtime?”

“No” was the firm reply.

Fast forward to tea time - get called in. Can’t do it though, 'cos I’ve had no sleep. I was cleared for the weekend, hence why I always make sure before going home on my last shift of the week.

My message to management everywhere - Remember the six P’s.

“Proper Planning Prevents ■■■■ Poor Performance.”

With proper, well-thought-out plans - anything can be done at any time. :frowning:

You asked the question and got the weekend pass approval reply so their fault ! if they told you no but keep phone on we may need you that’s different :wink:

I often make myself available for “planned” overtime, but never for “On Call” since I’m not paid an on-call rate for that. I also lost heart with agency work because of the “last minute” factor all the time as well.
I like to know what I’m doing at least 24 hours in advance. How TF is one supposed to have any kind of life if you are expected to sit next to the phone all day, every day - waiting for it to ring, full time, agency, or self-employed?
Daft thing is, I’ve been available for planned overtime nearly every week for the past six months - and have not gotten any. The same day I get turned down for some though - I then get called in later, the firm having thought better of it. I can’t do it by this point, because I come home and get on with my life - not sit by the phone all day. :unamused: This is by no means the only time this happens. I have to assume that there is some aversion of the firm in handing out overtime, which is not what I was used to as a 23 year veteran of RM beforehand, with “plentiful docket available nearly every week”…

Monday is a normal working day in France. Their 1st May holiday falls on Sunday so is effectively lost. This Thursday is a bank holiday tho (Ascension Thursday) so thats a non working day. Losing May 8th (Victory WWII) too as thats a Sunday.
Gotta plan where to park Weds night carefully, as many restos wont be staying open because many will "make the bridge" and have Friday off. ■■■■■■ "Wacky Races" 22hrs00 Thursday eve I spect.

dozy:
i didn’t take the job at all , I was tuped over from innovate , as for security guard why would I do that , I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector , worked at rolls Royce , aveling barford , kontacks etc .

Certainly got the boring bit sussed. . . . . .

puggy:

dozy:
i didn’t take the job at all , I was tuped over from innovate , as for security guard why would I do that , I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector , worked at rolls Royce , aveling barford , kontacks etc .

Certainly got the boring bit sussed. . . . . .

PUGGY ! IF YOUR GOING TO QUOTE SOMETHING PLEASE QUOTE PROPERLY OR IT JUST LOOKS LIKE GIBBERISH ! :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

puggy:

dozy:
i didn’t take the job at all , I was tuped over from innovate , as for security guard why would I do that , I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector , worked at rolls Royce , aveling barford , kontacks etc .

Certainly got the boring bit sussed. . . . . .

Jig boring yes , did it for a fair few years , horizontal / vertical boring less so as I only did it if one of the lads who worked those machines were on holiday in the machine shop , but it was very interesting and gave you a sense of achievement when you saw a roller , grader , dump truck leaving site knowing you’d machined some of the parts .
But my training was as a universal grinder , new my job and was good at it ( there words not mine ) .
But the main thing is if I lost my Hgv license I’d not end up in some dead end job going know here , as 99.9 % of drivers would .

blue estate:

puggy:

dozy:
i didn’t take the job at all , I was tuped over from innovate , as for security guard why would I do that , I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector , worked at rolls Royce , aveling barford , kontacks etc .

Certainly got the boring bit sussed. . . . . .

PUGGY ! IF YOUR GOING TO QUOTE SOMETHING PLEASE QUOTE PROPERLY OR IT JUST LOOKS LIKE GIBBERISH ! :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

Give him a break , he’s not thinking straight , his worlds just fallen apart , he had dozy down as some thick as zb useless driver who would end up cleaning bogs for a living , the fact I served a 5 yr apprentiship at rolls Royce and passed with distincations has just bought his world tumbling down .
The likely hood is he will end up cleaning bogs for a living while I work 6-2 pm in a engineering factory :wink: :laughing: earning £££££££££££.
But it’s not all Rosie’s , I never enjoyed it , always wanted too drive trucks that why I do this job , 70 hrs a week , for less money than I could get for 37 in a engineering factory , but it’s a fall back , better than having nothing , and knowing it ■■■■■■ of Peggy and his mate makes my day :smiley: :smiley:

I would like too add there was always the opportunity within engineering factories for non skilled labour , always willing too help ex drivers , so I’d have no issue putting your names forward , zb ■■■■ myself though when your brushing all the swarf up and I’m sat on my ■■■ whilst honer completes its 30 min cycle :smiley: :smiley: .
I would seek training for you lot to eventually become non- skilled machinists , but reading a lot of the posts on her you’d struggle with a metal rule , never mind a micrometer/ vernier gauge :laughing:
Old nodding donkeys post has really backfired on him , no wonder he’s gone awol :exclamation: :exclamation: :laughing:

Dozy-if you don’t need the money mate, why are you doing 70 hour weeks?

dozy:
Jig boring yes , did it for a fair few years , horizontal / vertical boring less so as I only did it if one of the lads who worked those machines were on holiday in the machine shop , but it was very interesting and gave you a sense of achievement when you saw a roller , grader , dump truck leaving site knowing you’d machined some of the parts .
But my training was as a universal grinder , new my job and was good at it ( there words not mine ) .
But the main thing is if I lost my Hgv license I’d not end up in some dead end job going know here , as 99.9 % of drivers would .

Good for you Dozy, I never had anything to fall back onto, thankfully I got lucky and never needed to, but clearly having a few strings to your bow is the best approach.

we always get asked for sat morn and bank holidays they don’t seem to understand that for normal pay rate the answer is always going to be no
pay the money and there would be a rota !

Well, well, well, in between mouthfuls I’m just chuckling away at all those other people, who’ve been having a dig at dozy for however long, who are chewing their way through humble pie this morning. :smiley: Turns out he’s a time-served skilled machinist, and from Rolls Royce too. Good on yer mate. It’s so long since I was shown that I wouldn’t trust myself not to leave the chuck key in the chuck now.

I know that you say you prefer what you are doing these days so good luck to you, but what boils my ■■■■ is when large engineering works close and all those scumbag politicians start pontificating about how they’ve created ‘replacement’ jobs for the redundant workforce. Just what earthly use is a job in a call centre to a skilled machinist other than as a stopgap until something worthwhile (doesn’t) come along?

Dozy dozy dozy glad to see you can fall back on a good job hard to come by now a days.I can fall back on car machanics but would struggle with all the tech crap today.

Colin_scottish:
Dozy dozy dozy glad to see you can fall back on a good job hard to come by now a days.I can fall back on car machanics but would struggle with all the tech crap today.

In some ways it makes things easier as it pretty much tells you what is wrong with the fuelling and ignition systems. Everything else other than that is no different than it was back in the day other than being a sod to access and a fault code reader is as essential as a spanner.

eagerbeaver:
Dozy-if you don’t need the money mate, why are you doing 70 hour weeks?

Because that’s what they plan me too do , i.e sat , last shift of the week , if I didn’t run it too 13 hrs I’d be sat at ws Runcorn ( or somewhere between there and swad ) sat night , the company pay £525 day hire for me so I’m led too believe , they get x amount per load ,so if I do one load they might not make any money , but if they can get 2 loads out of me and then get me back or near enough back for a reload for the next day , they make 2x as much money and still only pay £525 day hire .
Like I say I’m not employed by them , they day hire me , £525 if that’s correct , they pay no more whether I do 10 hrs / 15 hrs , so there going too run the driver/ truck too the maximum , squeeze every load out of it , more loads , more money , more profit :exclamation:
When we started this job it wasn’t too bad you did basically a round trip , start A the go tip and back too A , but now they want start A ,tip b, then Glasgow , back as close too london you can get etc ,etc
This is why I refuse o/t , I’ve had enough tues - sat , why I’ve told them you run me out of hours sat , run in sun then forget paying me I’ll just have tues off , I’m having 2 days off whatever ,

dozy:
I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector ,

I done all those as well doze, after an apprenticeship, but I reckon going back to it today from last doing it in 1978 I would be totally crap at it.
I don’t know when you last done it, but my brother in law who has the same trade tells me it is completely different today with all the hi tech advances over the years.
The last course I done while working at GEC, was to operate a state of the art latest up to the minute nc vertical cnc milling m/c, which was programmed via a peg board to enable automation, my brother in law tells me now that it is a museum piece. :smiley: so not for me anymore.

Thanks all, If it came over as bragging I do apologise , I just bit with n/d you’ll be a security guard , but I should know by now it commes with wearing a green uniform for years ( blue / black now )

robroy:

dozy:
I’d just go back into engineering , served a apprentiship as machinist ( grinder ) , but have done milling , turning , jig boring , horizontal boring , vertical boring welding , fitting , honing , surface grinding , external grinding , internal grinding , spline grinding ,inspector ,

I done all those as well doze, after an apprenticeship, but I reckon going back to it today from last doing it in 1978 I would be totally crap at it.
I don’t know when you last done it, but my brother in law who has the same trade tells me it is completely different today with all the hi tech advances over the years.
The last course I done while working at GEC, was to operate a state of the art latest up to the minute nc vertical cnc milling m/c, which was programmed via a peg board to enable automation, my brother in law tells me now that it is a museum piece. :smiley: so not for me anymore.

I was full time up too 2003 rob , since then I’ve done bits and bobs at w/ ends / hols for mates , old bosses etc shhhhhhhhhhhh :wink: , so I’d get by ok , maybe not Rolls Royce standard anymore , but local engineering factories Id be ok ,my micrometers , vernier callipers, vernier height gauges are all ready too go :wink: :laughing: .

cav551:
Well, well, well, in between mouthfuls I’m just chuckling away at all those other people, who’ve been having a dig at dozy for however long, who are chewing their way through humble pie this morning. :smiley: Turns out he’s a time-served skilled machinist, and from Rolls Royce too. Good on yer mate. It’s so long since I was shown that I wouldn’t trust myself not to leave the chuck key in the chuck now.

I know that you say you prefer what you are doing these days so good luck to you, but what boils my ■■■■ is when large engineering works close and all those scumbag politicians start pontificating about how they’ve created ‘replacement’ jobs for the redundant workforce. Just what earthly use is a job in a call centre to a skilled machinist other than as a stopgap until something worthwhile (doesn’t) come along?

Yes your right , when I went to work for aveling barford the machine shop was huge , big plate shop , fitting shops , paint shop etc , the work was non - stop , dump trucks , rollers , graders etc , they tell me 1,000,s worked there years ago , now it’s gone , think they may still do freuhauf trailers on that site but I’m not sure of that even , last I heard there was just 4 of my mates in what is left of the machine shop ( if it does still exist ) , a lot of those lads ended up in food factories ( retired now ) , highly skilled engineers checking chickens etc on production lines :frowning: