Gravel run to RAF Cosford

tetragaz:
oh flaming eck I missed it :frowning: but I do have other stuff on my plate as my old mans in the hospital so was visiting him on sunday.
cheers
gaz

Sorry to hear that your Dad is not well gaz. Did keep an eye out for you, but will catch up with you another time.
Cheers Dave.

thanks dave, hope you & tracy are ok mate, yeah maybe gaydon if you going.

Some great photos, Dave.

Steve

tetragaz:
thanks dave, hope you & tracy are ok mate, yeah maybe gaydon if you going.

Probably miss the Classic show Gaz which is my favourite, but hope to make it to the Retro show.
Cheers Dave.

Ste46:
Some great photos, Dave.

Steve

Thanks Steve, credit goes to Tracy my partner who takes the pics.
Cheers Dave.

Retired Old ■■■■:
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Evening Casey…

Well, I went to Cosford wondering if I would meet you…So I did!..and like you we never even knew!!!

It was only when Dave`s Tracey showed me a picture of you, and then you put this photo up, I realised who you were!!..(reflection in the windscreen)!!

Sorry that you left before the Shropshire lads arrived, there were some nice motors.

Hope that we meet again, we can always yarn about “spud” growing!!

Im glad you liked my Star, she is good fun, and a nice bit of history........(even if the roping is a bit "heath robinson") But nowt has fell off…yet!

Look after yourself,

Kindest Regards

John…

Saviem:

Retired Old ■■■■:
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Evening Casey…

Well, I went to Cosford wondering if I would meet you…So I did!..and like you we never even knew!!!

It was only when Dave`s Tracey showed me a picture of you, and then you put this photo up, I realised who you were!!..(reflection in the windscreen)!!

Sorry that you left before the Shropshire lads arrived, there were some nice motors.

Hope that we meet again, we can always yarn about “spud” growing!!

Im glad you liked my Star, she is good fun, and a nice bit of history........(even if the roping is a bit "heath robinson") But nowt has fell off…yet!

Look after yourself,

Kindest Regards

John…

Here is Casey with another reprobate yesterday John, sorry about the reflection off his specs.
Cheers Dave.

Retired Old ■■■■:
With respect to all the other Runners, this has to be my favourite. It’s not surprising that I haven’t seen one before, it’s believed to be one of the only two examples still in existence.
1930 Star Flyer, built in Wolverhampton. Apparently the firm was quite famous for both cars and commercials but failed because they were too expensive

Evening all

Well I have to own up as the owner/driver of the " Groupage lorry"…I must admit to being quite surprised at the interest in her…so perhaps a bit of background detail, to supplement what Dave wrote, and about this particular lorry…

Star Motor Company sprang from the amalgamation of interest in cycles between Edward Lisle, and an unemployed Coachman by the name of Sharrat, who founded the Star Cycle Company in 1883. By 1897 Lisle had split from Sharrat, and began to manufacture Star-Benz, 3.5 hp single cylinder motor cars.

The 1914/1918 war saw Star manufacture both ordnance, and commercial vehicles for the Russian, French, and British Armies…and Star Aero engines.

Post war, the market for commercial vehicles was saturated with ex USA surplus lorries, (the foundation for many “improver/modifiers”,

Plus its premium range of motor cars, including for Willeme in France). It was only around 1924, that Star was able to regain some ground in India, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa.

By 1924 Star manufactured 3 Commercial chassis,
20/25 cwt
34/40cwt
50/60cwt.
All powered by the Star OHV 7 bearing forced lubrication 24 hp 6 cylinder engine.

Plus its premium range of motor cars…the 18/50, & 20/60, Star Motor Cars.

1928 Sydney Guy saw the synergy between Star, and his own company, (remember Guy had developed the first English V8 engine Guy motor car), and acquired Star. And its new factory at the Wolverhampton suberb of Bushbury.

1929 Star Motor Company, (Associated with Guy Motors) of Wolverhampton, advertised, (Commercial Motor 18.06.29.)

The Star Flyer meets the 9 needs of safe and speedy transport!
1,24 hp 6cyl, 7 bearing engine.
Detachable cylinder head OHV readily accessible.
3, Twin dry plate clutch, (requires light operating pressure).
4,4 speed gearbox &reverse…positive lock on each gear.
5,all types of special bodies, (at moderate cost), available…(the picture showed a bus body, and two enclosed delivery vans).
620 gallon petrol tank.
7,7x32inx6in pneumatic tyres, (twins on the rear).
8.Fully floating rear axle
9, underslung springs for an, “extranordinary smooth ride”.
Priced at £645.00. ex works.

Now my old girl…VN2168…

Shown on page 209, of the Star order book, as ordered ex Guy Motors order No 44,

For the Curtis National Horse box Company, of Park Royal London, on 24th Fevrier, 1930. For Mr Gutho, of Kepwick Hall, Nether Stilton, Thirsk, Yorkshire.

Special features…

Fitted the Coventry Climax 35 hp 6 cylinder petrol engine, and Coventry Climax 4 speed Gearbox…plus £25.00

Watford Magneto

Type 9068 rear axle

32inx6in 7 tyres.

Exhaust to be lagged with Asbestos…Plus 35 shillings.

Handbrake to be moved rearwards by 8 inches,

Steering column lengthened by 2.5 ins…

Footbrake and clutch to be moved forward by 4 ins, (to improve drivers comfort)

She was delivered to the National Horsebox Company 22 Juillet 1930

@ a price of £645- 20%…(things never change do they)!

In 1930 Star Motor company produced 63 chassis in total! Of which 23 were Flyers…either 14ft 2in wb, or 15ft 6 in wb…only 2 had the Coventry Climax "big power " 35 hp option!

So I am the proud owner / driver of a 1930 Scania 143 equivalent…she will do 28, but happier at 20…for ever…

The elegant Star radiator badge, and the nympth like model was posed for by Stella Lisle , the daughter of Joseph Lisle, second son of Star`s founder Edward Lisle…

Hope I have not bored you…

This is a real English lorry, from Wolverhampton…the cradle, and crucible of vehicle manufacture in the United Kingdom…

But Im away to France`s finest…Bollinger…

Cheerio for now.

1970commer:

Dan Punchard:
Next time Rof I’ll bring a semi low for those less capable lorrys to ride on ,commers ect ect .

That Commer always seems to be capable enough to cope with any run, it completed the Cornish Coastal Run don’t forget, the only run it cant go on is one that’s something to do with Limestone, because like most none completers “you’re barred” I do seem to remember that Dennis on the back of a low loader & it was the only time I’ve known it overtake my Commer, time for a big D restoration I think. Your mate from ■■■■■■■ will be so pleased to see it on the road.

Drive carefully commer ,your cab looks to have more holes than metal ,I’ve only driven it once which was enough ! It’s definatly a C range ( colander),also you are comparing a light commercial with a lorry.

M. Saviem, Thank you so much for that potted history of Star and your lorry in particular. If only Sidney Guy could have brought the price down while retaining the quality, things may have turned out very differently.


Some of The Shropshire Trundle lorries at Raf Cosford.

I really fancy Swain’s 88. If only someone could get the steering wheel on the “proper” side and possibly supply the fuel■■? :wink:
I’m away to God’s Own County for a week, while this blasted computer gets a checkover/demolition so you’ll be free of my ramblings for a week or two. Unless I can get Bloke-who-married-the-sprog’s old machinery to fire up.


The last two taken through tinted windscreen, hence reflection.


Some more which Tracy took.

Dave the Renegade:

A Trucknet member leaning on another Trucknet member. :laughing:

Good heavens if its not the righteous brothers ! But what an excellent variety of exhibits , now that is what you call a show . regards Keith .

Come on Keith, lets have a pic of you, so that we will know who to dodge, if we see you. :laughing:
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:
Come on Keith, lets have a pic of you, so that we will know who to dodge, if we see you. :laughing:
Cheers Dave.

Hey Dave , probably the camara would break ! Where is ROFs reply ? regards Keith

Dave the Renegade:

A Trucknet member leaning on another Trucknet member. :laughing:

Evening all, …and there is another old one at the back…

Saviem:

Dave the Renegade:

A Trucknet member leaning on another Trucknet member. :laughing:

Evening all, …and there is another old one at the back…

Minus the the cap. :wink: