Muckaway:
Boss went and had a look at some 6wheelers the other day, all Dafs. One on an 07 the grar change was stiff as, so a no no. The second on an 08 looked good, drove well but had concrete smeared and dried all inside the body (agency driver, council operative or both) which would be marvellous on wet muck. The third which had the lowest mileage, had the best bodywork and a little used crane was an automatic.
what cranes did they have?
andrew.s:
Muckaway:
Boss went and had a look at some 6wheelers the other day, all Dafs. One on an 07 the grar change was stiff as, so a no no. The second on an 08 looked good, drove well but had concrete smeared and dried all inside the body (agency driver, council operative or both) which would be marvellous on wet muck. The third which had the lowest mileage, had the best bodywork and a little used crane was an automatic.what cranes did they have?
Epsilons I think.
do you go off road much? I imagine the auto box dafs will be awful in the mud?
andrew.s:
do you go off road much? I imagine the auto box dafs will be awful in the mud?
Not massively, depends on what condition the tips are in. 
I didn’t have any issues with the demonstrator I had a few months ago, but the grab is older so I doubt has the off road mode.
geoff-sipson.co.uk/truck-sty … -p400.html
I wouldn’t be seen dead driving this thing. What’s with the retarded Smurfs on the cab?
Muckaway:
http://www.geoff-sipson.co.uk/truck-styles/tipper-grabs/scania-p400.html
I wouldn’t be seen dead driving this thing. What’s with the retarded Smurfs on the cab?
me neither-even if it was plain white,that stupid highline roof would be a right pain in the arse when trying to grab something over the cab.
I take it this monstrosity used to belong to doyles from slough?
andrew.s:
Muckaway:
http://www.geoff-sipson.co.uk/truck-styles/tipper-grabs/scania-p400.html
I wouldn’t be seen dead driving this thing. What’s with the retarded Smurfs on the cab?me neither-even if it was plain white,that stupid highline roof would be a right pain in the arse when trying to grab something over the cab.
I take it this monstrosity used to belong to doyles from slough?
It did, yes. I’ve seen it in Earthlines’ tip along with that Pirates of the Caribbean themed one. I just couldn’t have or want to have the enthusiasm of looking after all that tat on it. Why have the dashboard painted white in a waste vehicle?
F-reds:
I wouldn’t bother Bobbya quite simply because 50% will be total turd, such as you can’t unzip your fly without PPE. A further 45% would be stuff that Nathan as an experienced plant operator will pick up quickly. The last 5%? Well perhaps he could be a bit proactive and find a local trainer that does an “experienced HIAB” day course and get 7 hours dCPC in as well…
Although the course isn’t a legal requirement to operate grabs, it’s an insurance requirement which is why his boss is offering it. You also need to learn how to operate the levers or remote control, as well as the safety necessities. And if the truck is changing to a grab, he’ll need to learn how to use it or find another job.
IndigoJo:
And if the truck is changing to a grab, he’ll need to learn how to use it or find another job.
I’d be fine even if I didn’t drive a grab as I’m the 8w driver which is staying, and I drive our plant too. I was asked from the start if I’d be happy to drive a grab, which I am. I see it as no different to an employer asking me if I want to do class 1 or renewing my old plant licences.
I often load myself on site and I get bored nowadays if I’m on jobs where I’m sitting around watching someone else do it.
And I secretly miss a bit of multidrop which I could do with a grab. 
IndigoJo:
F-reds:
I wouldn’t bother Bobbya quite simply because 50% will be total turd, such as you can’t unzip your fly without PPE. A further 45% would be stuff that Nathan as an experienced plant operator will pick up quickly. The last 5%? Well perhaps he could be a bit proactive and find a local trainer that does an “experienced HIAB” day course and get 7 hours dCPC in as well…Although the course isn’t a legal requirement to operate grabs, it’s an insurance requirement which is why his boss is offering it. You also need to learn how to operate the levers or remote control, as well as the safety necessities. And if the truck is changing to a grab, he’ll need to learn how to use it or find another job.
as F-reds says above,nathan will be fine as he is a plant op. takes a bit of getting used to though-its quite funny when I let a machine driver have a go on my grab!!
and all the ■■■■■■■■ about pulling the legs right out blah blah-I only pull the leg out(only on the side i’m lifting from) and put a pad under if I’m on unmade ground or a footpath(or someones driveway lol),if youre grabbing from the road you’ll be fine.
What’s the difference between Epsilon M105 and the E… version? Is one bigger/longer?
Muckaway:
What’s the difference between Epsilon M105 and the E… version? Is one bigger/longer?
really not sure what the E means-mine is a M125 evolution,some ive seen are M125 classic…
i’m sorry Nathan but I don’t know what the difference is…
Boss has seen a few potential motors, it would help if dealers answered their phones and responded to emails though.
Eight wheel grabs are easy to get hold of, it’s decent 6s that aren’t of export age that are quite elusve.
Muckaway:
Boss has seen a few potential motors, it would help if dealers answered their phones and responded to emails though.
Eight wheel grabs are easy to get hold of, it’s decent 6s that aren’t of export age that are quite elusve.
would you not be better off with an eight legger? always handy to have to extra capacity if needed
and most people that want muck clearing want an eight wheeler load.
There are a lot of 8w grabs around here but not as many 6s. The 6 is intended to service the customers who use mostly our Isuzu for deliveries, but use skips for muck (mostly renovation and landscape gardeners). These jobs are in a lot of small villages nearby or on high streets of local market towns so the 6 is more manoeuvrable.
It would be a good size range of vehicles operated too; The Isuzu, a grab 6 and our 8w.
trucks.autotrader.co.uk/mobile/s … ifier=true
What an absolute gem this is. No grab bucket, clutch gone and the mot runs out in a few weeks. And no number plates either it seems.
Muckaway:
http://trucks.autotrader.co.uk/mobile/stock-item-id/2c929b9b529cae2f0152bd2ea1a40bdd/advert?bodytype=tipper&seoIdentifier=true
What an absolute gem this is. No grab bucket, clutch gone and the mot runs out in a few weeks. And no number plates either it seems.
at least its cheap lol
how much is your boss thinking of spending?
I wouldn’t like to say but more than that old scrapper I sincerely hope. He’s on the crux of a deal for a low mileage one that looks almost new.
We’ve got a TGM with Epsilon crane. One question. The “crane over height” warning buzzer is going off in the cab once the pto is switched off, even though the crane is folded right down in the body. Any ideas? Not seen it myself as I’ve been on the 8wheeler.
If the sensor is the type mounted on a spring, this spring often gets gummed up with excess grease not allowing it complete freedom of movement, so it always shows as the crane being up in the air.
■■■■■■■ annoying isn’t it?!