Can’t see how this thread is about Trucks or Drivers… Perhaps it belongs elsewhere with other political threads?
I am just old enough to remember the seventies, the power cuts, dead unburied,
not this chestnut again
The dead unburied…2 teams of cemetery workers in liverpool and manchester(maybe salford) went on strike for 2 weeks
Approx 30 men for 10 days! (how long does it take to get someone buried today?)
national catastrophe!
There were no powercuts that I remember during Maggies reign, they were during Ted Heaths parliament.
As for Blair he spent the first part of his parliament spending the money on hospitals and schools etc, along with other infrastructure that the Tories had let slide.
Granted he was still a disapointment to those of us who voted for him, but to a large extent he was the victim of circumstances… and early on he delivered what the public had said they wanted.
del949:
I am just old enough to remember the seventies, the power cuts, dead unburied,
not this chestnut again
The dead unburied…2 teams of cemetery workers in liverpool and manchester(maybe salford) went on strike for 2 weeks
Approx 30 men for 10 days! (how long does it take to get someone buried today?)
national catastrophe!There were no powercuts that I remember during Maggies reign, they were during Ted Heaths parliament.
As for Blair he spent the first part of his parliament spending the money on hospitals and schools etc, along with other infrastructure that the Tories had let slide.
Granted he was still a disapointment to those of us who voted for him, but to a large extent he was the victim of circumstances… and early on he delivered what the public had said they wanted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent
Leaving the dead unburied to go on strike is one of the worst things I can think of doing in the name of industrial action. Absolutely disgraceful.
So, there will be a 21 gun salute, seems a shame to waste all them shots when there will be so many politicians standing around… just saying…
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?
We never got that money. It was a discount over a number of future years on our contributions in the other direction.
Loads of people think a “£70bn rebate” means the EU "gave the UK £70bn quid by chaps transfer". No it didn’t - not ever.
Leaving the EU outright would effectively give us that “rebate” each and every year! Still, no money actually changes hands though.
Thatcher herself didn’t want a state funeral. Over half the population think it’s at least inappropriate. The other half are not going to be the ones paying for it, earning far more than we mere mortals do, and offsetting the entire bankroll they earn for tax so they pay less percentage than a cleaner.
Now’s not the time to be a Tory Lover my friend. They are done, and so are the few that still intend voting for them at the next election. 
merc0447:
The government waste money, thats what they do best.Id rather pay for a thatcher funeral than give [zb] aid to india or give the greeks/banks another bailout.
Trouble is, we’ll end up paying for both regardless.
Saving money starts by saying “No” to all the things that waste money - little or large amounts by comparison.
limeyphil:
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?I’ve also heard that silly argument. If she didn’t give it them in the first place, Then she wouldn’t get a rebate.
I found it ridiculous that so many people fell for so many lies from that women. She sold shares in state owned companies to those that already owned them. and they fell for it.
when you own a company, you have an income. when you sell it and spend all the money, you end up with nothing.
^ This.
turbot:
del949:
I am just old enough to remember the seventies, the power cuts, dead unburied,
not this chestnut again
The dead unburied…2 teams of cemetery workers in liverpool and manchester(maybe salford) went on strike for 2 weeks
Approx 30 men for 10 days! (how long does it take to get someone buried today?)
national catastrophe!There were no powercuts that I remember during Maggies reign, they were during Ted Heaths parliament.
As for Blair he spent the first part of his parliament spending the money on hospitals and schools etc, along with other infrastructure that the Tories had let slide.
Granted he was still a disapointment to those of us who voted for him, but to a large extent he was the victim of circumstances… and early on he delivered what the public had said they wanted.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent
Leaving the dead unburied to go on strike is one of the worst things I can think of doing in the name of industrial action. Absolutely disgraceful.
Assuming that you were a council worker back then you’d have had a choice of strike or lose your house because you couldn’t afford to pay all the bills and the mortgage/rent.As far as I know even cemetery workers never had any exemptions from having to pay for the ever increasing cost of living out of their ever decreasing worthless salary paid in pounds which were worth about only 60% of their value in real terms since 1973. 
So not that different to today for those on the minimum wage if they can find a job.The difference is that back then the unions were up for a fight unlike after she defeated them.The economy which we’ve got now is the result.
turbot:
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?Too right, the country would be in an even worse state than it is now, had it not been for her breaking the unions strangle hold on us.
I am just old enough to remember the seventies, the power cuts, dead unburied, rubbish left in the streets and workers going in for a night shift taking their sleeping bags with them! We would have carried on being the poor man of europe were it not for her.
If you’re only ‘just old enough’ to remember the 1970’s then you were obviously educated under the Thatcherite education system which of course only taught her version of history not the real one.Maybe you should check out the actual economic figures related to the trade deficit,economic growth,and the value of the pound against a decent currency like the CHF,as they stood before Heath took us into the EEC,which Maggie then supported staying in at the referendum in addition to then throwing us to the global free market economy when she got into power.Then compare those figures to what we’ve actually got now.Those figures don’t lie unlike the LibDem/Con/Lab version of history.The country and everyone in it is now effectively owned by China which is why the policy towards that place’s beligerent commie government is one of appeasement.That’s Thatcher’s legacy to the country.
del949:
As for Blair he spent the first part of his parliament spending the money on hospitals and schools etc, along with other infrastructure that the Tories had let slide.
Granted he was still a disapointment to those of us who voted for him, but to a large extent he was the victim of circumstances… and early on he delivered what the public had said they wanted.
Blair was just like Wilson,Callaghan and Brown.They were all ruled by the bankers and they were all basically Thatcherites in their economic ideology.Which in practice just meant the idea of limiting incomes to control price led inflation and to subsidise the profits of big business.
Winseer:
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?We never got that money. It was a discount over a number of future years on our contributions in the other direction.
Loads of people think a “£70bn rebate” means the EU "gave the UK £70bn quid by chaps transfer". No it didn’t - not ever.
Leaving the EU outright would effectively give us that “rebate” each and every year! Still, no money actually changes hands though.
Thatcher herself didn’t want a state funeral. Over half the population think it’s at least inappropriate. The other half are not going to be the ones paying for it, earning far more than we mere mortals do, and offsetting the entire bankroll they earn for tax so they pay less percentage than a cleaner.
Now’s not the time to be a Tory Lover my friend. They are done, and so are the few that still intend voting for them at the next election.
The problem is that the choice is between the Tories or Tory/Labour or the Lib/dems or UKIP.UKIP is run by a Thatcherite who just wants less ties with the EU but even closer ties to China etc in the global free market economy,the LibDems haven’t got a clue being just a load of raving global warmist believers amongst all their other PC ideas,and Labour is just another form of Thatcherite leaning Tory Party with some LibDem ideology thrown in. 
They should’ve put the job out to tender just like she always said, the market will determine the cost!
Same reason they can subsidise Al quaeda rebels to overthrow a legal government in Libya because its leader wanted to sell the countries oil in a different currency than the dollar.
As did Saddam Hussein by negotiating with Germany and France in quoting the cost of a barrel of oil in Euros.
Lets see what happens now that the Chinese are about to announce going down the same road.Hold on to your hat!They are not some middle eastern pushover.
Look it up.
They should privatise her funeral and sell it to the highest bidder,that’s what she would’ve wanted.
Sorry Fredthered didn’t realise you had posted similar! 
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?
Wasnt it Thatcher who in 1975 led Ted Heaths yes campaign to join the European union and wasnt she the one who signed the single common market act which eventually led to the creation of the euro currency.
We would save 10million pounds on Thatchers funeral if we applied her ideology and privatised her funeral outsourced it to the private sector with a view to awarding the contract to perform the funeral to the lowest bidder.
Yes plenty of volunteers bidders joining the queue to do the funeral for nothing .
They should cremate her on some of that British Coal she said was not viable and economical to dig for anymore in 1984 and where we now import from Russia and America for extortionate prices.
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
They should cremate her on some of that British Coal she said was not viable and economical to dig for anymore in 1984 and where we now import from Russia and America for extortionate prices.
Took the words rite out of my mouth…ditto, it will never change who ever is in power they all ■■■■ in the same pot, the rich rule the poor and have done since time began, one thing for sure this goverment are good at giving taxpayers money away.
andrew.s:
considering the 70 odd billion we have recieved as part of a rebate from the eu that she negotiated,i think 10 million doesnt sound too bad does it?
+1
tuckman:
We would save 10million pounds on Thatchers funeral if we applied her ideology and privatised her funeral outsourced it to the private sector with a view to awarding the contract to perform the funeral to the lowest bidder.
I think you’ll find that her funeral HAS been “outsourced to the private sector”, or are you saying that government employees are actually undertaking this funeral themselves??
Why not forget politics & give this woman the send off she deserves as a former Prime Minister who had the respect of the rest of the world, who had the courage of her convictions (however much they differ from your own) totally unlike the wishy washy tossers that inhabit Westminster these days, whatever party they represent.
Ross.