Lol i wonder what they will say to me when the time comes then cos im driving around with 18 points.
Volvofh16:
Lol i wonder what they will say to me when the time comes then cos im driving around with 18 points.
So if you committed an offence in a car and not your hgv license could you then get prosecuted again on your hgv license , i think not.
OTS:
So if you committed an offence in a car and not your hgv license could you then get prosecuted again on your hgv license , i think not.
I’m sorry my old mate, if you think that then you are very wrong, the TC waggles his finger at you as he says it “As a professional driver you are expected to maintain very high standards, a dim view is taken etc etc”.
brados:
OTS:
So if you committed an offence in a car and not your hgv license could you then get prosecuted again on your hgv license , i think not.I’m sorry my old mate, if you think that then you are very wrong, the TC waggles his finger at you as he says it “As a professional driver you are expected to maintain very high standards, a dim view is taken etc etc”.
you do not get prosecuted again, only a court can prosecute you and they have already done so, you do not return to court.
what may happen is that the TC who monitors LGV & PCV licencing may take the view that your behaviour falls below that expected of a professional driver and may call you in for a chat
resulting in
green456:
you do not get prosecuted again, only a court can prosecute you and they have already done so, you do not return to court.
what may happen is that the TC who monitors LGV & PCV licencing may take the view that your behaviour falls below that expected of a professional driver and may call you in for a chat
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This. Also drivers only have one licence not separate ones for car/LGV/PCV etc so there cannot be a case of solely endorsing your “car licence” if convicted whilst driving a car.
Found this
VOCATIONAL DRIVER CONDUCT
dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/S … onduct.pdf
34.The criminal courts are concerned with punishing those who have committed criminal
offences whereas traffic commissioners are concerned with the question of whether the
person concerned is fit to obtain or to continue to hold a vocational licence. Those two
exercises are different and consequently what is appropriate proportionate and
purposive will vary in each individual case. The suggested starting points are intended
to ensure consistency in approach not uniformity in decision.
Driver Conduct Hearings
41.First-time applicants (referred under Section 113) who have 9 or more penalty points on
their licence, the last points or disqualification having been received within the last 2
years from the date of application (and none within the last six months see Annex 1)
should be required to attend a hearing to give the traffic commissioner the opportunity
to assess the individual. As part of that exercise the traffic commissioner will wish to
stress upon the applicant the additional standards and responsibilities of professional
drivers, to explain the further legal implications of the vocational licence, and to
demonstrate the connection between vocational entitlement, the traffic commissioner
and conduct, and even the implications for an employer s operator s licence.
Use of mobile phones
50.A specific starting point is provided in respect of the use of hand held devices such as
mobile telephones because of the prevalence of this offence in recent years.
Parliament has recognised the inherent dangers caused by drivers of motor vehicles
when using mobile telephones whilst driving and brought forward specific legislation.
There has been an unacceptable increase in the number of vocational licence holders
using mobile telephones without a hands free device whilst driving large goods and
passenger carrying vehicles. This practice is unacceptable and presents an undue risk
to road safety. Studies have indicated that even the use of hands-free devices can
distract a driver to the extent that they may be prevented from applying the requisite
care and attention… A report for an offence received from an enforcement agency that a
vocational driver has used their mobile telephone whilst driving without a hands free
device in the last three years will result in that driver being called to a hearing before
the traffic commissioner. Each case will be decided on its own facts and merits and the
presiding traffic commissioner will be keen to ascertain the reason the driver is
engaged in the telephone call. In cases where drivers are speaking with their
employers or their customers the traffic commissioner may consider the effect this
might have upon the operator s repute.
I can sort this i was done for talking on a mobile twice in one week had to see the tc about another matter( im. A busy man) and he wasnt bothered at all about it.
I just wrote a long rant…
Then thought about it…
Thanks for pointing out, that there is a possible consequence of any points acquired whilst driving another Car-Motorcycle etc.
I for one had never seen this, despite ROG saying I had agreed to it…
Did I miss it on the theory test ?
Maybe ROG will point out chapter and verse where it is covered ?
Thanks original post, very valuable info. This is what makes Trucknet useful.
att:
So…I am just about to have 3 points added to my license and a £60 fine for speeding in an LGV
My ,lcense is due for renewal in November of this year, can somebody who knows what they are speaking of, tell me what will be happening please.
Beverly bell’s going to come round and give you, your wife and your cat a Strawberry Shortcake!