I’ve said it before, I’m saying it now, and no doubt I’ll say it again. It is called supply and demand. Since the eastern block invasion, which started in 2003/04 with the poles, there are now more drivers needing jobs than jobs needing drivers. They pay these rates as they are enough to get a bum on a seat. Has anybody been watching benefit street? 14 rumos living in a 2 bed house. Average running cost for said house including food is probably £1400 a month. That’s £25 per week per head. That’s why they can do the job with money to burn in their pockets. Goldstar can almost definitely pay more, but would you offer someone an extra £500 for a car, just because you could? Thought not. The last glory days of wages imho were 2003, when there was more jobs than drivers. We could command a higher fee so the operator had a bum on a seat
dandyhighwayman2:
to think one of there drivers got killed in Toyota working for a wage that I was on in 1987.bloody scandalous
this is why steering wheel attendants/ licence holders are THICK 
Truckulent:
George@ASDA driver:
waynedl:
508 basic top line, which however you dress it up, isn’t that bad for a 62.5hr week really .It’s comments like that that will ensure the industry will never get any better and makes me so glad and thankful I’m ‘just’ a trolley dolly!!!
I’m finished at 2pm every day with a reasonable start time for more money! It’s disgraceful.
You are correct of course George…
But you won’t convince a lot of folk that a driver deserves a reasonable wage - i.e. one that doesn’t mean he or she has to work 60+ hours a week just to earn a (very) average wage. It’s not proper trucking if you don’t bust your arse off for 70+ hours a week for [zb] all.
Don’t forget also, that we’re talking of a CONTAINER job here, a box jockey, commonly known as the lowest paid in the industry.
This is not a highly specialised job like low loaders or chemical tankers or even multi-drop.
Personally, I’d rather do a job like that for a little less than a job with curtains and straps and getting dirty and stuff for a little more - of course if the wage difference was more than a little I’d work harder, but it isn’t, the wages around this area for all types of work are crap, so I’d rather sit in my warm cab on TNUK whilst someone else does the work, than get blown about, smacked off curtain straps and poles, and ■■■■ wet through.
Each to their own.
OVLOV JAY:
I’ve said it before, I’m saying it now, and no doubt I’ll say it again. It is called supply and demand. Since the eastern block invasion, which started in 2003/04 with the poles, there are now more drivers needing jobs than jobs needing drivers. They pay these rates as they are enough to get a bum on a seat. Has anybody been watching benefit street? 14 rumos living in a 2 bed house. Average running cost for said house including food is probably £1400 a month. That’s £25 per week per head. That’s why they can do the job with money to burn in their pockets. Goldstar can almost definitely pay more, but would you offer someone an extra £500 for a car, just because you could? Thought not. The last glory days of wages imho were 2003, when there was more jobs than drivers. We could command a higher fee so the operator had a bum on a seat
Spot on totally agree with everything you said , i remember back in the early 2000s you could go frm 1 job to another and basically within reason demand what work you wanted to do ie nights out or locals , i remember in Felixstowe nearly every yard had a sign saying drivers wanted , ah the good old days , now im finding it impossible to get a job !!!
Used the search button.
Friend of mine is looking at doing the 5 on 3 off days for Goldstar out of Liverpool.
Wondering if anyone has any up to date info on the company? He rang today only to be told the guy he needs to speak to isn’t in.
Looking in website it says £630 minimum per week. Dunno if that’s before or after tax.
Any info appreciated and Thanks in advance
sinclair89:
Used the search button.Friend of mine is looking at doing the 5 on 3 off days for Goldstar out of Liverpool.
Wondering if anyone has any up to date info on the company? He rang today only to be told the guy he needs to speak to isn’t in.
Looking in website it says £630 minimum per week. Dunno if that’s before or after tax.
Any info appreciated and Thanks in advance
Gotta be after tax, everyones take home is different with tax codes & other stuff took out.
daj911:
sinclair89:
Used the search button.Friend of mine is looking at doing the 5 on 3 off days for Goldstar out of Liverpool.
Wondering if anyone has any up to date info on the company? He rang today only to be told the guy he needs to speak to isn’t in.
Looking in website it says £630 minimum per week. Dunno if that’s before or after tax.
Any info appreciated and Thanks in advance
Gotta be after tax, everyones take home is different with tax codes & other stuff took out.
On that logic surly it’s before tax ( deducted) you mean
The job is dying rapidly. There is no respect for the job and drivers just put up with it, don’t stick together and work for the ■■■■■■ wages on offer and the anti social/family hours you have to work just to make ends meet in this third world country that we are rapidly becoming. In ten years I do not think you will see many British drivers behind the wheel.
A company I do work for regularly sends out East European drivers(?) in brand new deckers ( which they subsequently trash) they follow their sat nav with zero English communication skill, they take longer to do the job, therefore costing the company more money in the end. I was there the other day dropped, unloaded, fuelled up, swap trailer, reload, paperwork, chat and coffee refill etc. in a very quick hour. When I entered the yard there were two swarthy (double manning to Scotland I guess) individuals attempting to put a unit under a decker, as I left an hour later they were still attempting this…I then got back to base yard and they were removing a “no speak even the basic lingo” Romanian from the yard as he had taken over 20 minutes to NOT get on a very simple bay, and this ■■■■ is getting paid more than me!!!
But we all moan about it, how many of you will not bother voting to get us out of the EU■■?
The country is dying on it’s feet, I worry for my child’s future here.
Oh and I don’t know about Goldstar sorry 
Chainsaw, i do not concur with your statement of no UK drivers left in ten years time, it will be less than that, i predict two to three years, the reason is the old timers are hanging up their keys and not taking their drivers CPC.
Young and new drivers are put off by long hours, lack of quality family time, the only job you can go to jail for, risk of fines and congestion among many other issues.
They can earn more in a call center, keeping their hands clean, without the need to ■■■ in a Tosco bag and sleep in a tin box in a hot summer or a freezing cold winter when the night heater packs up.
Lack of secure parking in the UK, and truck stops that are full up by 18.00 or earlier, which means planning of your trip to ensure not to break the tachograph laws and regulations.
Eating crap food, on the move, or MSA meal voucher food, which consists of kiddies fish fingers, kiddies fried chicken nuggets with beans and chips and more chips.
This is not food for a working man/woman after a 15 hour shift or ten hour drive.
NewLad:
Shocking, totally shocking!
One from the Office is here on 
waynedl:
europleb:
this is a typical container deal the jobs all long days but fairly chilled you will be away all week and get a decent take home with fuel bonus nights out O/T etc etcThis ^^
Except, I believe my mate is struggling for nights out tbh, he stays in the yard rather than driving home because he lives quite far from the yard.
But, as I say, 6.90 * 40 + 10.35 * 22.5 = 508 basic top line, which however you dress it up, isn’t that bad for a 62.5hr week really (remember, most places that pay higher rates deduct a meal break off you - this is paid straight through) + fuel bonus (easily achievable due to the type of work) + any other O/T (if he works more than his 12.5hrs per day he’s paid for the extra, even if he only did 8hrs the day before) etc…
That is bloody bad though… I only do day work and I take alot more than that!
chester1:
daj911:
sinclair89:
Used the search button.Friend of mine is looking at doing the 5 on 3 off days for Goldstar out of Liverpool.
Wondering if anyone has any up to date info on the company? He rang today only to be told the guy he needs to speak to isn’t in.
Looking in website it says £630 minimum per week. Dunno if that’s before or after tax.
Any info appreciated and Thanks in advance
Gotta be after tax, everyones take home is different with tax codes & other stuff took out.
On that logic surly it’s before tax ( deducted) you mean
Erm yeah before tax, pretended to be intelligent & it back fired.
I will stick to being thick. 
Okay guys, he managed to get in touch with the guy in charge of recruitment.
£8.25 per hour. 62.5 hrs a week.
Sat and Sun rates are £15.
toby1234abc:
Chainsaw, i do not concur with your statement of no UK drivers left in ten years time, it will be less than that, i predict two to three years, the reason is the old timers are hanging up their keys and not taking their drivers CPC.
What do you call ‘old timers’? 60+, 50+? There’s plenty of them, and they won’t be retiring, until at least the age of 65 or 66 (whatever), as they can’t afford to, because they’ve earned a low income all their life.
Oh, not to forget all the 20+, 30+, and 40+, who are much further away from retirement than they are!
There’s also lots and lots of new English drivers, who have just acquired their HGV licence/or in the process of learning. Some of those appear on here.
Which means that your theory sounds rather daft, doesn’t it.
V40LLY:
toby1234abc:
Chainsaw, i do not concur with your statement of no UK drivers left in ten years time, it will be less than that, i predict two to three years, the reason is the old timers are hanging up their keys and not taking their drivers CPC.What do you call ‘old timers’? 60+, 50+? There’s plenty of them, and they won’t be retiring, until at least the age of 65 or 66 (whatever), as they can’t afford to, because they’ve earned a low income all their life.
Oh, not to forget all the 20+, 30+, and 40+, who are much further away from retirement than they are!
There’s also lots and lots of new English drivers, who have just acquired their HGV licence/or in the process of learning. Some of those appear on here.
Which means that your theory sounds rather daft, doesn’t it.
V40LLY, I don’t understand your logic, the uptake of young drivers is very low.
The vast majority of the young don’t want to be working stupid hours.
The company I work for has admitted that in a few years time, there will be a driver shortage, as the average age is mid 50’s. They’re looking at a recruitment drive (from within)
This is a very large company, so the average age will roughly equate to the UK workforce.
sinclair89:
Okay guys, he managed to get in touch with the guy in charge of recruitment.
£8.25 per hour. 62.5 hrs a week.
Sat and Sun rates are £15.
Well done.
Good Company with nice Trucks.
Immigrant:
sinclair89:
Okay guys, he managed to get in touch with the guy in charge of recruitment.
£8.25 per hour. 62.5 hrs a week.
Sat and Sun rates are £15.Well done.
Good Company with nice Trucks.
Shelf stacker’s wages, though.
sweepster:
V40LLY:
toby1234abc:
Chainsaw, i do not concur with your statement of no UK drivers left in ten years time, it will be less than that, i predict two to three years, the reason is the old timers are hanging up their keys and not taking their drivers CPC.What do you call ‘old timers’? 60+, 50+? There’s plenty of them, and they won’t be retiring, until at least the age of 65 or 66 (whatever), as they can’t afford to, because they’ve earned a low income all their life.
Oh, not to forget all the 20+, 30+, and 40+, who are much further away from retirement than they are!
There’s also lots and lots of new English drivers, who have just acquired their HGV licence/or in the process of learning. Some of those appear on here.
Which means that your theory sounds rather daft, doesn’t it.
V40LLY, I don’t understand your logic, the uptake of young drivers is very low.
The vast majority of the young don’t want to be working stupid hours.
The company I work for has admitted that in a few years time, there will be a driver shortage, as the average age is mid 50’s. They’re looking at a recruitment drive (from within)
This is a very large company, so the average age will roughly equate to the UK workforce.
Yes, but it will take a few decades for the majority of British driver’s to fizzle out. It certainly won’t be a few year’s.
Not that it matter’s when they do, as they’re will be plenty of foreigner’s from the poorest countries in the world, who’d jump at the chance to earn minimum wage over here for driving a 44 tonne HGV.
Driver’s are 10 a penny!
sinclair89:
£8.25 per hour. 62.5 hrs a week.
rob22888:
sinclair89:
£8.25 per hour. 62.5 hrs a week.
They are paid for 62.5 hours a week or 12.5 hours a day even if they work less. Anything over is paid at overtime rate. As far as I know.
That is for day drivers. Trampers are contracted 10 hours a day. Not sure about night drivers