Truckbling:
Please don’t let facts get in the way of being a proper trucker. The rules are that you “can” spend the night in a suitably equipped lorry", not that you must.
Oooooft, careful, you’ll have someones eye out with all that back pedalling and desperation. This all smells of RDC lawyer crap to me.
It only says you “can” so that you know it is legal to do so. Just because it does not say “you must” doesnt automatically mean you can rock up to the boss with a reciept for a hotel.
How ever, I think id like to see the law you’re quoting. How about instead of posting arrogant crap and showing every one your attitude problem, you post a link to the law that states your employer has to pay a hotel bill if you if that’s what you choose instead of the lorry?
Or will this end up like your infamous “I make a grand a week” ■■■■■■■■ from January where you posted Decembers statement but when called out on it being seasonal work and to prove otherwise, you conveniently came up with a whole load of excuses not to post Januarys and never returned to the thread?
Favourite thread for ages. 
Truckbling I bet you are a hoot in a waiting room 
I used to think Truckbling was my old Trucknet buddy Carl Usher, but I take it all back now.
Carl…although bitter and twisted 
, and insisting that we are all …quote; Thick ■■■■ s, and if you ignore the insults (mainly aimed at me) does come out with some valid and intelligent posts, and not drivercrap and rdc bollo that he has heard, believed, repeated and insisted that it is either law, rules, word of the Gospel, or all three, before coming back on rapidly pedalling in a backwards direction.
robroy:
I used to think Truckbling was my old Trucknet buddy Carl Usher, but I take it all back now.
Carl…although bitter and twisted , and insisting that we are all …quote; Thick [zb] s, and if you ignore the insults (mainly aimed at me) does come out with some valid and intelligent posts, and not drivercrap and rdc bollo that he has heard, believed, repeated and insisted that it is either law, rules, word of the Gospel, or all three, before coming back on rapidly pedalling in a backwards direction.
Here you go again Mr self important, I have not back pedalled anywhere in my posts. Knowledge is power and you clearly have none.
Article 8 §8: Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
Where does it say must?
As a failed OD, had you offered this to your drivers maybe you would still be in business?
Truckbling:
robroy:
I used to think Truckbling was my old Trucknet buddy Carl Usher, but I take it all back now.
Carl…although bitter and twisted , and insisting that we are all …quote; Thick [zb] s, and if you ignore the insults (mainly aimed at me) does come out with some valid and intelligent posts, and not drivercrap and rdc bollo that he has heard, believed, repeated and insisted that it is either law, rules, word of the Gospel, or all three, before coming back on rapidly pedalling in a backwards direction.
Here you go again Mr self important, I have not back pedalled anywhere in my posts. Knowledge is power and you clearly have none.
Article 8 §8: Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
Where does it say must?
As a failed OD, had you offered this to your drivers maybe you would still be in business?
The may means that it is legal to take a break in a cab. If the cab does not have suitable sleeping facilities then the employer must make reasonable provision, which in effect means a b&b/hotel. But if it’s got a bunk the boss does not have to cough up for a hotel room.
As for As a failed OD, had you offered this to your drivers maybe you would still be in business?, Wincanton et al all seem to have been in business for a while and I’m guessing they don’t do too much in the way of hotel expenditure. 
albion:
Truckbling:
robroy:
I used to think Truckbling was my old Trucknet buddy Carl Usher, but I take it all back now.
Carl…although bitter and twisted , and insisting that we are all …quote; Thick [zb] s, and if you ignore the insults (mainly aimed at me) does come out with some valid and intelligent posts, and not drivercrap and rdc bollo that he has heard, believed, repeated and insisted that it is either law, rules, word of the Gospel, or all three, before coming back on rapidly pedalling in a backwards direction.
Here you go again Mr self important, I have not back pedalled anywhere in my posts. Knowledge is power and you clearly have none.
Article 8 §8: Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
Where does it say must?
As a failed OD, had you offered this to your drivers maybe you would still be in business?
The may means that it is legal to take a break in a cab. If the cab does not have suitable sleeping facilities then the employer must make reasonable provision, which in effect means a b&b/hotel. But if it’s got a bunk the boss does not have to cough up for a hotel room.
As for As a failed OD, had you offered this to your drivers maybe you would still be in business?, Wincanton et al all seem to have been in business for a while and I’m guessing they don’t do too much in the way of hotel expenditure.
<note to self, another of robs ■■■■■■■>
The “may” indicates that you can if you choose to do so, it does not mean you must.
The point I’m getting at here is that it is an option. If drivers are armed with this information it can be very useful but given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
Truckbling:
The “may” indicates that you can if you choose to do so, it does not mean you must.
The point I’m getting at here is that it is an option. If drivers are armed with this information it can be very useful but given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
I’m already feeling the loss deeply.
If the haulier has provided you with a bunk, you may choose not to sleep there and opt for a hotel. That is a free choice, you are correct.
However, the haulier may choose not to reimburse you, there is no obligation to pay for a hotel when suitable ( in this case a bunk ) is provided.
As an evil boss, I provide hotel rooms if a bunk is not available. But not if it is.
albion:
If the haulier has provided you with a bunk, you may choose not to sleep there and opt for a hotel. That is a free choice, you are correct.
Thank you, that is all I was trying to say.
Truckbling:
The “may” indicates that you can if you choose to do so, it does not mean you must.
The point I’m getting at here is that it is an option. If drivers are armed with this information it can be very useful but given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
Gonna get Mrs Socketset to give you a few tips on flouncing off - poor effort, really.
Socketset:
Truckbling:
The “may” indicates that you can if you choose to do so, it does not mean you must.
The point I’m getting at here is that it is an option. If drivers are armed with this information it can be very useful but given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
Gonna get Mrs Socketset to give you a few tips on flouncing off - poor effort, really.
<socketset…another of robs ■■■■■■■>
Hey Rob, how do ya keep a tally of us all?
Did you not get given a number Socket?
Mine is 69. I am one of his ’ special ’ ones.
Whaaaat - he told me I was his Special One - oh no 
I’m going to be fat with all this Popcorn I keep eating
robroy:
Truckbling:
given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
Nooooooo!!.. pleeaase don’t stop with your advice and points of view, we love them, they’re comedy gold.
And I promise to keep my ■■■■■■■ under control from now on, getting the basque suspenders and bull whip out as we speak, so stand by ■■■■■#69 especially. 
(and be warned the guy with the socket spanners.)
Note;… love the failed owner driver reference, did you pick that up from Carl , but sorry mate it only cuts any ice when it comes from people that have done something with their lives and had a go, not nonentitys such as yourself , so that lets you out…but hey! …Don’t let that stop you from trying to needle me, I find it most entertaining
jesus wept you really are a superstar and so full of you own self importance aren’t you. Was wondering how long it would be before your ■■■■■■■ contacted you to tell you that I was having a pop.
So…This is your life is it? you cant live without your daily abuse on Trucknet.
As for the Carl reference, you don’t have a patch on me mate, I’ve done more miles in reverse that you have done forwards so please, preach to those who think you are something as opposed to those who know you are nothing.
Truckbling:
robroy:
Truckbling:
given the abuse I am getting for offering this info then I may not be so inclined to offer more in the future.
Nooooooo!!.. pleeaase don’t stop with your advice and points of view, we love them, they’re comedy gold.
And I promise to keep my ■■■■■■■ under control from now on, getting the basque suspenders and bull whip out as we speak, so stand by ■■■■■#69 especially. (and be warned the guy with the socket spanners.)
Note;… love the failed owner driver reference, did you pick that up from Carl , but sorry mate it only cuts any ice when it comes from people that have done something with their lives and had a go, not nonentitys such as yourself , so that lets you out…but hey! …Don’t let that stop you from trying to needle me, I find it most entertaining
jesus wept you really are a superstar and so full of you own self importance aren’t you. Was wondering how long it would be before your ■■■■■■■ contacted you to tell you that I was having a pop.
So…This is your life is it? you cant live without your daily abuse on Trucknet.
As for the Carl reference, you don’t have a patch on me mate, I’ve done more miles in reverse that you have done forwards so please, preach to those who think you are something as opposed to those who know you are nothing.
Ahhhh The old ‘‘more miles in reverse’’ chestnut love it.
Are you familiar with the phrase ’ Give him enough rope and he will eventually hang himself’'… think we’ve achieved that. 
You’re starting to make a bit of an exhibition of yourself now mate, I would just stop if I were you…just saying.
Truckbling:
albion:
If the haulier has provided you with a bunk, you may choose not to sleep there and opt for a hotel. That is a free choice, you are correct.
Thank you, that is all I was trying to say.
Not wishing to stir the pot but weren’t you also saying your boss must pay as well if you opt for the hotel option.
Even if your truck has a bunk.
Dipper_Dave:
Truckbling:
albion:
If the haulier has provided you with a bunk, you may choose not to sleep there and opt for a hotel. That is a free choice, you are correct.
Thank you, that is all I was trying to say.
Not wishing to stir the pot but weren’t you also saying your boss must pay as well if you opt for the hotel option.
Did kind of not quote the bit where I pointed out the haulier does not have to reimburse the hotel fee. Just saying that you don’t have to sleep in a cab is obvious, it’s the implicit bit where the hotel has to be refunded by your boss and it most certainly doesn’t that he ignored.
As for being one of rob’s ■■■■■■■, I don’t have a number 
. I may flounce and stamp my feet cos it’s not fair 