I, like so many others, have read all the blurb on gas attacks & have a fairly open mind on it until I visited one of my other “favourite” sites this week.
The main “anti gas attack” member is a bloke called George Telford who insists that they are ALL hoaxes, it NEVER happens & it is all down to either idiots telling stories or something to do with insurance claims.
Be warned though, this George bloke is one serious case !!
I got into a heated discussion with him when he gave incorrect electrical advice to another member & although I spent 4 years as an electrical contractor, have city & guilds & 16th edition, he still told me I was wrong … until I PROVED HIM WRONG – he then deleted all my posts & posted pretty much word for word what I had said
Might be a laugh just to read his ramblings if you have a few hundred hours to kill. To my knowledge he is an expert on:
All internal combustion engines
Water pumping, heating & distribution
Electrical issues
Gas (far more than the corgi guys)
Fridges, cookers, & other motorhome appliances
Adhesives
Furnishings
Buses, Coaches etc.
I have probably missed a few but you ge tthe picture. Gotta be worth a laugh but for heavens sake don’t mention trucknet, we don’t want him entertaining the members with his versionof the construction & use or hours regulations … do we
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A lot of European trucks use Propane cab heaters because diesel can freeze. there were many drivers gassed in Eastern Europe with this system and the TUV eventually stopped issuing a licence.
The trick was to use a stanley knife and slice the pipe, making the driver unconcious as he slept. It allowed the gypsies to break into the cab and steal the running money and personal items in the cab.
Having suffered twice from gas attacks while sleeping (please no jokes about not eating beans/brussel sprouts etc), I can vouch that they happen, and cost you a lot of money and cause considerable inconvenience. The worst part is that the plod of the the country they take part in do not really care as they are made on truckers. With one exception; the Belgians have woken up to the fact that someone is going to die as a result of one of these attacks. A Belgian plod told me that the amount of gas put into a cab is critical; too much and you kill the driver; too little and the driver might just kill you.
So yes it happens, and, I understand, more and more often.
My dad has being gassed while he slept in his cab over on the continent three times in recent years. Once in Holland near Eindhoven, once in Belgium and in Germany the criminals pumped the gas in the wrong place and made alot of row and woke my dad up and he had a gun pointed at him and surprisingly he said the leader spoke with a cockney accent whilst the rest appeared to be Polish and in a Polish plated van. Infact one of the drivers from my dads company died whilst in Belgium, it is thought the gas had a bad reaction to him and killed him, that was a few years ago now. On the two occasions where these criminal scum were sucessful in knocking my dad out they stole money/maps/minor possesions and nothing else but you’re left with a very bad ‘hang-over’ for a few days afterwards. I had heared some drivers had being attacked in this manor in England, I dont know if its true but I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
For anyone who thinks being knocked out with gas whilst asleep in your cab is some funny made up fantasy I can give you my contact details so you can speak to my father, a victim of such actions and see how funny he thinks it is.
As dwjinuk said
Having suffered twice from gas attacks while sleeping
it is certainly no laughing matter & i was a bit peeved at Mr. George Telford over on sbmcc taking his usual “know it all” attitude to it. I know nothing of gas attacks, as most members of the SB site do, but again this man has done his google search & pasted what he beleives it true
Why did I post it ■■
Dunno really, just thought some of you might find it interesting that a man with no HGV experience knows more than most of you that have had 1st hand experiences.
Feel free to debate, discuss or argue with me, but don’t shoot me, I’m just the messenger
I think the cynisicsm in regards to gas attacks,its not a problem here,is that people like to believe something else has happened and not accept responsibility-not in all cases.
An example is the “Date-■■■■ Drug” so called epidemic.In fact the actual cases of mickey finns being slipped is minute.A “Victim” who doesn’t want to own up to her boyfriend/husband etc or even parents that she went out and had a good time just screams" I was slipped a ■■■■■■■■■ drug",GBH,and other names that are popular in the hysterical press at the time, and lo and behold a flood of new victims come forward in mass hysteria
Think of the recent hurricane in Florida,looters will be shot on sight,hundreds of cases of looting reported etc etc,but in reality how many looters?Yeah very little(insurance fraud e.g claiming big ticket items that were purchased but a looter must have stolen them).Same as Australian bushfires,every bushfire in Australia is caused by arsonists,just forgetting lightning strikes etc,and the press scream for justice-how many arson attacks start bushfires?Yep again ,very little but its good news story,plus its more convenient to blame someone else.
I am not doubting the claims in earlier posts,but taking an impartial view .
this George bloke is really giving me the red eye now !!!
Apparently all you who have been gassed, beleive in gassing, or know of somebody that has been gassed are either liars, or not intelligent to know otherwise
Shall I invite him over to discuss it with you all or just let him get on with his own line of thought
I’m not sure whether they are real or not. I am a member Eurowatch. an organisation which issues warnings about crimes against truck and truckers throughout Europe and every month the bulletins contain warnings about Gas attacks that have occurred, France, Germany and Poland being the main places. I know personally drivers who think they have been victim to a gas attack and I have no reason to doubt them I also know one guy who claimed to be the victim of an attack because he had spent all the running money and money people had given him to buy beer for them in the fruit machine on the ferry and needed an excuse as to why he had no money. In that case they had taken only the cash and nothing that would make life awkward for him, mobile phone, fuel card, passport etc.
By the same token I do have a gas alarm fitted to the Volvo because my wife wanted me to get one as it made her less worried so I’m covered just in case.
i have been robbed three times on the continent as to wether id been gassed ill never know (but waking up with the biggest hangover there is, i could well have been?) they took all my own money,never touched the credit cards or fuel cards… perhaps i dreamt it ? cus i dont remember getting drunk ? and thinking back a few months did not lucy get gassed near huntingdon ■■
this George bloke is really giving me the red eye now !!!
Apparently all you who have been gassed, beleive in gassing, or know of somebody that has been gassed are either liars, or not intelligent to know otherwise
Shall I invite him over to discuss it with you all or just let him get on with his own line of thought
I tend to walk away from people like this who haven’t got a clue, but insist on pursuing a point and refuse to listen to those with experience of the subject.
I just end up feeling that I can do far better things with my life, than listening their ill informed prejudiced arguments.
Johnny was another one who was robbed and he also puts it down to gas, no reason to doubt him at all, because of the way he felt the next day. That was in Luxembourg and it ties in with reports from the area, at the time and the months leading up to his attack, by the Luxembourg police that attacks had been happening.
Coffeeholic:
I also know one guy who claimed to be the victim of an attack because he had spent all the running money and money people had given him to buy beer for them in the fruit machine on the ferry and needed an excuse as to why he had no money.
On a slightly differant tack to the gas attacks, and please i am only repeating this here as i was told it. I was on a boat from Ancona to Patras about 3 months ago, few of us was having a meal in the drivers part of the restaurant on the Anek, sat with a few Greek drivers, the guy i was with is an old Greek hand bin going there for the last 30 years.
The Greek drivers started to explain about something that had happened to one of them in Belgium, it went something like this.
The Greek guy was parked in a service area, i belive it was on the 411, tho i am not 100% sure, sitting in his truck, when a “lady” walked in front of his truck, with a long coat on, she then opened the coat, yeah she didnt have anything on under the coat, upshot is she lands up in the cab, says she is going to get a condom from here handbag, but sprays the guy with some sort of gas, which paralysed the guy, tho he was aware of what was happening, the “lady” then took a syringe and took a blood sample!. A day later he was able to move and got the police, nothing was taken from the cab, no money, cards etc. When the Greek driver talked to the police, the policeman told the Greek driver that he was probably being targeted by a east european gang that were taking drivers for organ transplants, yeah i know it seems a bit far fetched, and everyone i have asked don’t know anything about it.
As an aside when i whent back into Italy to load, I was at Prato loading, and got talking to an Irish driver that was there, he told me a while ago one of there drivers, a lady driver that worked for them was parked at the services before the Kennedy tunnel, someone broke into her cab overnight she was sprayed with this gas that can paralyse you, she was aware of what was happening to her, she was raped, then had her throat cut, then the cab was stripped.
The above is as was told to me, how true any of it is, i dont know, I am just passing in what i was told, and in both cases, all partys swore blind that what they were saying was the truth.
Steve
As an aside to the above. I was parked in a parking area on the 411 going to Lux, not a month after that, doing the times crossword, tho i might have been reading FHM, when a car pulled up next to me, straping young lass got out, asked me if i was interested in something involving blow and jobs, in 20 odd years of going through Belgium think that is the first time a woman has ever said that to me, fair put the willys up me (no pun intended) most of the time after dark, and if you go through Belgium a lot you will know what i mean, its blokes you have to fend off, could never figure that out as soon as you stop anywere after dark they all want to show you there assets.
Steve
