fuel

JUST STARTED USEING BIO DIESEL IN THE CAR :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
make it myself and obviousley im registered for dutypayment with custons and highway robbery
its very easy loads of instructions on the internet
i LOVE nettos veg oil :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

there is only one way this mess will end, and it is a conservative government, it isn’t going to happen overnight though.

The conservatives had a healthy bank balance the last time they were in power, I for one earnt more money, although I do know that many people didnt. If you were willing to work, you earnt good money.

Anyway back to fuel tax. The current corrupt government cannot relieve the tax on fuel because they have already spent it. The country is in so much debt and a strike or any action will only result in the profitable companies going down the pan too.

I agree the french do have a knack of running a successful dispute, but it will not happen this time as they are in the same boat. SKINT

Who voted these incompetent fools back into government? No-one I have ever spoke to admits it since the first win for Blur.

That election win was overdue because a government who stays in power for several terms get powerstruck.

Im backing Ken Clarke

map-man:

Tramper:
There may be talk of revocation of O’licences and criminal proceedings against people who are involved with blockades. But it ain’t illegal to not got to work. Should trucks not go out of the yard one day, all trucks, I wonder how long it would take for government to listen?

I can see it now…

me - I’m protesting about fuel prices so I’m not driving today.

Gaffer - don’t be stupid

Me - I’m serious

Gaffer - ok, one minute, hello helping hands agency? I need a driver, thanks. Doors that way Steve…

Yeah I guess that would be the case in many a yard, however in mine I’m the gaffer.

Wheel Nut:
there is only one way this mess will end, and it is a conservative government, it isn’t going to happen overnight though.

The conservatives had a healthy bank balance the last time they were in power, I for one earnt more money, although I do know that many people didnt. If you were willing to work, you earnt good money.

Anyway back to fuel tax. The current corrupt government cannot relieve the tax on fuel because they have already spent it. The country is in so much debt and a strike or any action will only result in the profitable companies going down the pan too.

I agree the french do have a knack of running a successful dispute, but it will not happen this time as they are in the same boat. SKINT

Who voted these incompetent fools back into government? No-one I have ever spoke to admits it since the first win for Blur.

That election win was overdue because a government who stays in power for several terms get powerstruck.

Im backing Ken Clarke

Totally agree with all of the above. About time we had a change. Somebody who is willing to speak their mind and not hide behind others. :slight_smile:

Roadhog:
the best thing i can think of is having a fixed amount of duty per litre, which increases with inflation annually.

That is exactly what we do have, except that it hasn’t actually risen at all for the last few years. The current duty on a litre of DERV is 47.10p if I remember right. All the recent price rises are due to the price of crude rising and frankly there’s stuff all anyone can do about that - it’s inevitable as demand rises throughout the world that the price will also rise.

Paul

Wheel Nut:
Im backing Ken Clarke

While i agree with most of what you say WN the last thing the country needs is a PM who smokes, Its a bit like Margaret Beckett being the transport minister who wants someone controlling transport whos hobby is [zb] caravaningā– ā– ?.

Bring Maggie out of retirement and QUICKLY!!!..

JAMES WHALE FOR P.M.

On a lighter note i went to Asda to fill up tonight 19:00 on way to work but the queue was massive so i gave up if i cant get fuel next week then i cant get to work its that simple will i moan NO because i support the cause…

Ā£1.30 a litre thats extracting the urine…

putting extra letters in will get passed the censor but not me,jb

jammymutt:
Bring Maggie out of retirement and QUICKLY!!!..

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I’m emigrating if that happens :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Its worth remembering that good old Gordon Brown gets a cut from every barrel of North Sea oil produced, so as the price for oil rises on the world market gordon gets a bgger cut. When he says he cant cut the tax on fuel because he needs it for nhs etc, he has got a lot of extra coming in through the back door, surely some of this could be used to offset a tax cut on fuel for commercial use.

Its worth remembering that good old Gordon Brown gets a cut from every barrel of North Sea oil produced, so as the price for oil rises on the world market gordon gets a bgger cut. When he says he cant cut the tax on fuel because he needs it for nhs etc, he has got a lot of extra coming in through the back door, surely some of this could be used to offset a tax cut on fuel for commercial use.

Being out in the sticks, we only have electricity pumped through to our home … we fill our oil tank every August with 2500 litres which takes us through with a little top up of 500 to the following August. Last year we paid 19.5p a litre … last month we paid 35.6p a litre. This was BEFORE Katrina!!!

Diesel is Ć¢ā€šĀ¬1.12 ( Ā£0.78 ) at Intermarche today. Glad I filled the car up last week when it was only Ć¢ā€šĀ¬1.06. :laughing: :open_mouth: :cry:

Salut, David.

the passed couple of nights they have been rattling on about it on the radio wanting drivers to ring to say what they are going to be doing…

but

as far as im concerned its not the drivers that should be blockadeing its the gaffers if they are unhappy at the price of fuel they should all get together and do something not the drivers its not their responseabilty.
before you all get on your high horse’s what would your gaffer say if suddenly you parked his lorry on the motorway and said its not moving till they drop the price off fuel.

jessicas dad:
before you all get on your high horse’s what would your gaffer say if suddenly you parked his lorry on the motorway and said its not moving till they drop the price off fuel.

That is exactly what used to happen in France. It was the small hauliers instigating it. Not any more though. The government finally got tough and threatened to confiscate licences. And before some wag says ā€˜they can’t do it to everyone’ , they don’t have to, just pick on those at the front and without a front rank there aren’t any others either.

Salut, David.

We are taxed to the hilt…from vat to purchase tax…taxed on our earnings…taxed on our savings…its what makes the world go round. Problem is our government is too greedy. the french farmers get lots of help…including help from the uk…the french hauliers have tax exemptions…and they can claim back tax they pay on fuel…and taxes they pay on autoroute tolls…so already we are at a disadvantage. The up and coming fuel protests will lead nowhere. Already drivers are saying they fear reprisals from their employers, and regardless of the cost of fuel…they still earn a wage every week…its the profits of the transport companies that will be hardest hit…and when profits go down…they try and cut corners…could be on maintenance…could be the odd truck parked up…could be to reduce wages…or to hire other drivers at a reduced wage…hauliers will not let a driver join the protest for fear of losing his o licence…his living…so its gonna be the owner drivers who make a stand, along with the farmers… funny how this fuel protest is being run alongside the farmers own dispute with supermarkets at the low prices they are being offered for their produce…the farmers it seems are no different to the haulage industry…they dont stick together either,otherwise they will tell the supermarkets to get stuffed…if i was selling produce…i will sell it at my price…not be dictated to by them…so once again…we are at the door of despair…as i have always said…if we were a very strong united group of drivers and hauliers…we would down tools…until the government listened…but we are not…and never have been…and never will be a united force…and thats sad…and now the unions have very little power…thanks to that tory twerp maggie thatcher…its not worth starting one…for the rules say that nobody need belong to one…and in all honesty…who could blame them…for we are our own worst enemy. and one last thing…why is it that the farmers have taken the lead in this and the last fuel protest…where are the hauliers own actions…except to tag along…

What would happen if on a specified day, whenever you came to a round about, you went round it five times - trying to decide which route you wanted f course… Eventually all roads would be blocked due to the blocked up round abouts…

This could be carried out by all drivers - not just hauliers - to show the government the country’s disgust at their inaction.

i’m a bit confussed, why would a company driver give two ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  about the price of fuel? if fuel prices come down will you get more wages? of coarse not!
there seems a lot of misconceptions about the haulage industry especially over fuel. the thing is any firm will take into account the fact that diesel will continue to rise in price, so therefore if a firms touting for a job it will base it’s price on the fuel rate that week, if it’s tendering for a contract that’s going to run for say three year it will have a clause in that contract to cover fuel increases over the period of the contract, it’s called a surcharge, so basically the price of fuel is either here nor there IF everyones paying the same. the problem at the moment is that mainland european firms are allowed to tender for work with the intention of using fuel bought at mainland european prices, giving them a massive advantage, hence the ever increasing amount of foreign firms doing uk work, a price reduction would put an end to this but wouldn’t mean we’d all get rich, simply because all the costomers would then expect a simular reduction in rates, the profit in any given job would remain the same!
for me the price can stay as it is, what we need is a ban on europen fuel being used on uk roads thus creating a level playing field for all.

I am sorry to say PAUL B but you are dreaming, we are in the EU which has in its wisdom decreed that the carriage of 1500liters of fuel is correct resonable and safe, the fuel price is riseing due to ,Natrual Disasters.
affecting the oilfields and refinerys,the security aspect due tothe increase in terrorist (other people say freedom fighters) activitey, the damage still
IN THOSE PLACES where wars were and are still being fought,
oh yeh i forgot THE MONEY GRABBING FIRMS THAT STEADFASTLY REFUSE TO CUT THERE PRICES ;; BUT STILL GIVE OUT BACK --HANDERS TO ENSURE THAT CERTAIN PRACTISES CAN CONTINUE:

truckyboy:
the french hauliers have tax exemptions…and they can claim back tax they pay on fuel…and taxes they pay on autoroute tolls…so already we are at a disadvantage.

As can UK hauliers who drive in France. You can claim back the VAT on the tolls and fuel as well a rebate on the fuel duty.

Coffee, when one learns about national and international CPC ,are they not taught this as well, or what about the RHA & FTA do they not inform their MEMBERS about these rebates, IF NOT WHY NOT:

so are the prices for french fuel inclusive of vat that a uk vat registered company can then claim back?