Fuel tanker driver shortage

Forget all the back and forth with media, politicians and haulage representatives. They are all attention seeking grandstanders. Just ask two questions:

  1. Has there been any fuel shortages since Brexit?

  2. Has there been any fuel shortages since COVID?

Answers to both are ‘NO’!!! This is a media fake news story fuelling (no pun intended) moronic hysteria.

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Winseer:
Conspiracy Theory:

The Fuel Tanker drivers are actually on all-out strike, like during the Winter of Discontent, but the government has covered it all up with a press blackout, and spun the news…

Drivers seen idle walking around at places like Thurrock Fuel Depot

Been out for hours and days, and not seen one single fuel tanker delivery taking place anywhere among my usual haunts for the past six days…

News are concentrating on the Public dealing with this “Crisis”, rather than what’s actually being done about it:
(Sound-boarded already for “Green Godess” solution, implying that the government really knows it ain’t gonna be over in a few hours or days yet…)

Reports of Emergency vehicles being turned away, but strangely no Fuel Tankers who couldn’t get through, because Biffa Bacon and Sassy Sassenach are having a punch-up at some forecourt over a broken bumper/wing mirror/sense of pride

I’m thinking the “Idle Drivers @ Depot” are in fact on bloody Picket duty! - Anyone got any up-to-date info with live footage from such scenes?

There’s an opportunity to make some real news here, and it would appeal to both disgruntled Tory voters and Leftists alike, as it threatens to bring the government down should it actually be TRUE that the Tories are knee-deep in their very own winter of discontent AFTER all…! :bulb: :bulb: :open_mouth:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-27/u-k-takes-emergency-steps-as-forecourts-run-dry-energy-crisis

From that story

"Possible Strike at BP Supplier (6:54 p.m.)
Some drivers at Hoyer, a U.K. company that handles fuels deliveries for BP, will vote this week on strike action. The vote over pay currently affects about 10 workers at the fuels distributor, according to a spokesman for the Unite union, which represents the affected drivers. The result will be out on Friday.

According to Hoyer, some drivers decided not to accept an offer in July to increase their remuneration package by more than 20%. The company is now offering those terms to new drivers, and the offer remains open to existing employees, it said in a statement dated Sept. 25."

mushy01:
I’ve only seen 2 tanker jobs in the north east Hoyer and Wincanton and a couple of garages only letting you fill up a wagon with £35 that’s madness and the petrol forecourt association saying delivery’s should be prioritised in the south east is a micky take

How can they stop you filling more than a certain amount. Once the nozzle is in your tank, why stop. Have they really changed their systems so that it shuts off??

stu675:

mushy01:
I’ve only seen 2 tanker jobs in the north east Hoyer and Wincanton and a couple of garages only letting you fill up a wagon with £35 that’s madness and the petrol forecourt association saying delivery’s should be prioritised in the south east is a micky take

How can they stop you filling more than a certain amount. Once the nozzle is in your tank, why stop. Have they really changed their systems so that it shuts off??

They asked a garage owner (think it was BBC News) if he was going to put a limit on and he said it wasn’t possible so i assume you put signs up saying maximum £30 and hope the greedy self centred panic buying scum do the decent thing this time and stick to the rules.

Bin Man:

stu675:

mushy01:
I’ve only seen 2 tanker jobs in the north east Hoyer and Wincanton and a couple of garages only letting you fill up a wagon with £35 that’s madness and the petrol forecourt association saying delivery’s should be prioritised in the south east is a micky take

How can they stop you filling more than a certain amount. Once the nozzle is in your tank, why stop. Have they really changed their systems so that it shuts off??

They asked a garage owner (think it was BBC News) if he was going to put a limit on and he said it wasn’t possible so i assume you put signs up saying maximum £30 and hope the greedy self centred panic buying scum do the decent thing this time and stick to the rules.[/quote

at tesco pay in store or pay at pump, you can press the silver buttons for how much fuel you want to put in. pick up nozzel
and it will automatically stop when you reach set amount. so im guessing there able do to that via the shop till as well

ETS:
It looks like a pretty crap job to me. You can’t sit in cab while you unload, you have to be there and standing and looking at the hose or w/e, can’t have your phone out or eat or read a book (obviously can’t SMOKE either lol) just stand there until it’s done, cold, rain, wind - don’t mater. An hour or two, who knows? Probably cameras all around the truck, tiny crammed day cab with nowhere to stretch your old legs. Then back to yard to refull for the next run which probably involves lots of standing around again. Have to wear those overalls hi viz, probably spend way more time waiting at the site and forecourts (outdoors) than actually driving. I wouldn’t do it even for £20 p.h. unless we run out of diesel and start getting sent home with no pay. Then I might consider getting ADR and looking for a temp job on the tankers to help out but not long term.

It was a brilliant job in the 80’s and extremely well paid. Also worked with some top blokes. Probably still better than a lot of other jobs in transport.
Eack to their own but if you ain’t tried it I doubt it qualifies you to judge. There’s a good reason it’s mostly a dead man’s shoes job.

Someone was telling me Asda were restricting cars to a maximum of £30 in Scotland.

jakethesnake:
Someone was telling me Asda were restricting cars to a maximum of £30 in Scotland.

Provides around the real world range of an EV how convenient.

at tesco pay in store or pay at pump, you can press the silver buttons for how much fuel you want to put in. pick up nozzel
and it will automatically stop when you reach set amount. so im guessing there able do to that via the shop till as well

You could be right i have never used one of those.

I believe one EE did light up a ■■■ while standing over 50,000 gallons. He was next to a primary school at the time.

Meanwhile the oil price continues to rise, $81 a barrel of Brent this morning, and $77 for Light

Going to look at changing the mrs car to a ev as this is obviously going to be a ongoing problem , can’t be putting up with this every 5 mins

Some more stupid questions I have;

  1. On supermarket work delivering to smaller stores, sometimes you can’t park in the tip location because a car is there, or it’s advised that you phone ahead so cones can be put out; are things like this an issue on tankers, in other words are there headaches every day, or is it moreorless routine.

  2. I’ve delivered gas bottles and usually we had to switch off / hand in mobile phones on site, I’m guessing it’s the same again (if anything stricter).

foresttrucker:
Some more stupid questions I have;

  1. On supermarket work delivering to smaller stores, sometimes you can’t park in the tip location because a car is there, or it’s advised that you phone ahead so cones can be put out; are things like this an issue on tankers, in other words are there headaches every day, or is it moreorless routine.

  2. I’ve delivered gas bottles and usually we had to switch off / hand in mobile phones on site, I’m guessing it’s the same again (if anything stricter).

With most supermarket petrol stations the delivery point is nowhere near the pumps, it’s normally off to one side somewhere, specifically to keep it out of the way so that people tend not to park there.
Some of the slightly older or smaller ones have delivery points between some of the pumps. With these ones you could phone ahead, but really there isn’t much point. Unless you’re already close by when you call then you can’t give a specific time, and the location of the delivery point would require them to cone off and effectively prevent some pumps from being used, potentially costing them money, so they won’t do it.
Some of the really old one’s still have delivery points hidden under grids on the floor. These can be just about anywhere, so if customers are parked on them you just have to wait.
Overall, you don’t tend to wait that long, only takes about 5 minutes to fuel up a car.
The bigger issue is when having to deal with idiot customers. The amount of people who would be smoking or on phones is unbelievable, but the biggest issue was people moving your cones. You set cones out firstly to keep people a safe distance away, but also in a lot of cases, to keep your exit route cleared. In so many petrol stations the air and water machines are close to the delivery points, so people would just move the cones so they could try and full their tyres. You would then get to argue with them about moving your cones, then about the machine being switched off.
The issues surrounding mobile phones are actually surprisingly lax. At terminals they are supposed to be switched off, but staff are happy enough if they are just out of site. With most terminals you don’t ever see a member of staff. You enter the details for your load on a computer, you load it yourself then get your paperwork (a bill of lading) from a printer on the way out. When you get to delivery sites, you can keep your phone on you, because of where the points are in most cases, you are obscured from cameras so you will probably spend most of the time during the delivery playing with your phone (just don’t let customers see!)

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dozy:
Going to look at changing the mrs car to a ev as this is obviously going to be a ongoing problem , can’t be putting up with this every 5 mins

Worthless trade in and 26p per kwh + taxes to fuel it and a policy of smart metered travel rationing.Frying pan and fire.

Wheel Nut:
Meanwhile the oil price continues to rise, $81 a barrel of Brent this morning, and $77 for Light

Backed off a bit since then, but still holding above $80 for Brent as I post this…
(Sould be a live, ticking chart - let me know if it actually works when posted on here…)

Winseer:

Wheel Nut:
Meanwhile the oil price continues to rise, $81 a barrel of Brent this morning, and $77 for Light

Цены на нефть сегодня | Онлайн графики цен нефти Brent и WTI

Backed off a bit since then, but still holding above $80 for Brent as I post this…
(Sould be a live, ticking chart - let me know if it actually works when posted on here…)

Fossil fuel in high demand everyone wants it doesn’t seem to fit the we must leave it in the ground climate change narrative that we’re constantly being fed.
Also bearing in mind Brent means mostly our own stuff from the North Sea with a bit of Norwegian which they tell us has run out.
So we have to go all electric at 26p per kwh at the risk of turning the country into an irradiated wasteland so that our own oil can be exported.
It’s like the Irish potato famine just nuclear disaster instead of starving because the beef and dairy was all being exported.
We’re being governed by corrupt criminals.

the maoster:
‘It’s true…….

The facemask is not covering his nose though.(Not completely brainwashed.) :grimacing: