BBCBreaking. Unite union rules out strike action by tanker drivers in UK over Easter to focus on talks. Details soon bbc.in/GXoHlZ
Anything to do with time and a half over the bank hols? 
Well, its happened. It was only a matter of time before some moron got burned.
She tried decanting petrol from one one can into another. In the kitchen. While the stove was on. Bang.
Thats the trouble with all this health n safety, it allows idiots to survive and breed more idiots. The whole process of natural selection has been skewed, where the mentally feeble prosper.
@tiger
Eh!
How do you come to that conclusion?
Thereâs nothing in that report to indicate the Unions decision to postpone the threatened strike action.
I see plenty of âWaffleâ from government spokesmen and âRetailersâ reps. But nothing from the Union.
Solly:
@tiger
Eh!How do you come to that conclusion?
Thereâs nothing in that report to indicate the Unions decision to postpone the threatened strike action.
I see plenty of âWaffleâ from government spokesmen and âRetailersâ reps. But nothing from the Union.
From the BBC report: Strike action over Easter by fuel tanker drivers has been ruled out by the Unite union.
Temporary relaxation of the enforcement of driversâ hours and working time rules: distribution of petrol and diesel bit.ly/HoyVv4
tiger65:
Temporary relaxation of the enforcement of driversâ hours and working time rules: distribution of petrol and diesel bit.ly/HoyVv4
Hmmmm as if it gonna happen when the tanker drivers are moaning about working a few extra hours as it is
tiger65:
BBCBreaking. Unite union rules out strike action by tanker drivers in UK over Easter to focus on talks. Details soon bbc.in/GXoHlZAnything to do with time and a half over the bank hols?
Where does it indicate the above conclusion?
Oh I see⌠Itâs a cheap shot at the Tanker Drivers Union/Drivers. A nasty and ill thought out dig at those who are trying to better themselves and ironically through the knock on affectâŚyourselves.Nothing at all to do with the articleâŚffs.
The employers can have a bit of fun with that now.
Employer to tanker driver: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: but it is a reasonable request. Needs of the business. OK, this time I wonât make you do it, but expect me to make this reasonable request again tomorrw
Employer following day: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: This is now the second time youâre refusing a reasonable request. Disciplinary hearing tomorrow!
Solly:
tiger65:
BBCBreaking. Unite union rules out strike action by tanker drivers in UK over Easter to focus on talks. Details soon bbc.in/GXoHlZAnything to do with time and a half over the bank hols?
Where does it indicate the above conclusion?
Oh I see⌠Itâs a cheap shot at the Tanker Drivers Union/Drivers. A nasty and ill thought out dig at those who are trying to better themselves and ironically through the knock on affectâŚyourselves.Nothing at all to do with the articleâŚffs.
A little bit of irony seems to get lost in translation. Just a personal opinion (we are allowed those on here arenât we?) thatâs all, no need to get angry folks. 
OK. Itâs like this then is it.
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Possible strike action from drivers delivering fuel across country over pay and conditions
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Govt says âdont panic but keep your tanks fullâ
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Panic buying across country, fuel stations emptied overnight rather than in a week or so.
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More overtime for the affected drivers to supply more fuel for panic buyers
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Unions state no strike will happen over easter
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FTA relax enforcement of hours due to panic buying
So when all this panic buying is over, people have wasted all that time and money (and fuel) queueing, towards the end of the month itâll start all over again when they do go out on strike. However, in the mean time the military have shuffled things around and may already have built up the emergency reserves at other places that may not have even considered such things.
All in all, clearly the govt have managed this crisis well. NOT.
interlog:
The employers can have a bit of fun with that now.Employer to tanker driver: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: but it is a reasonable request. Needs of the business. OK, this time I wonât make you do it, but expect me to make this reasonable request again tomorrw
Employer following day: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: This is now the second time youâre refusing a reasonable request. Disciplinary hearing tomorrow!
Funny as (zb).
It loses itâs humour when you use the word âRequestâ. If you read through it carefully, The âEmployerâ hasnât made a âRequestâ of the âDriverâ has he? Even if he had the driver has the option to refuseâŚhasnât he?
But I take on board how employers conduct themselves and it aint good for industrial relationships. 
tiger65:
A little bit of irony seems to get lost in translation. Just a personal opinion (we are allowed those on here arenât we?) thatâs all, no need to get angry folks.
Youâre right of courseâŚbut it just goes to show how a âTranslationâ can cause disputes.
Solly:
interlog:
The employers can have a bit of fun with that now.Employer to tanker driver: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: but it is a reasonable request. Needs of the business. OK, this time I wonât make you do it, but expect me to make this reasonable request again tomorrw
Employer following day: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: This is now the second time youâre refusing a reasonable request. Disciplinary hearing tomorrow!
It loses itâs humour when you use the word âRequestâ. If you read through it carefully, The âEmployerâ hasnât made a âRequestâ of the âDriverâ has he? Even if he had the driver has the option to refuseâŚhasnât he?
But I take on board how employers conduct themselves and it aint good for industrial relationships.
You never had the âreasonable requestâ one thrown at you before?
I always used to get it, along with the look of âdonât do this for me then Iâll make you suffer!â
Iâm very surpised if you havenât or Iâve been working for â â â â â for years 
Solly:
It loses itâs humour when you use the word âRequestâ. If you read through it carefully, The âEmployerâ hasnât made a âRequestâ of the âDriverâ has he? Even if he had the driver has the option to refuseâŚhasnât he?
But I take on board how employers conduct themselves and it aint good for industrial relationships.
Of course he can refuse. But only so many times until it is then justified to dismiss him without any recourse at the Tribunal.
And relationships work two ways. If you make it clear you are prepared to strike, then be not surprised if an employer will not just roll over to your demands.
Solly:
tiger65:
A little bit of irony seems to get lost in translation. Just a personal opinion (we are allowed those on here arenât we?) thatâs all, no need to get angry folks.Youâre right of courseâŚbut it just goes to show how a âTranslationâ can cause disputes.
Fair point and no malice intended.
I did read somewhere that one day of panic buying netted the government an extra ÂŁ34,000,000 in various duties and taxes on fuel, could have been a ploy to balance the books by the chancellor
Martin:
I did read somewhere that one day of panic buying netted the government an extra ÂŁ34,000,000 in various duties and taxes on fuel, could have been a ploy to balance the books by the chancellor
Now whoâs being a little cynical. Watch out the âpowers that beâ will open a file on you, making commets like that. Didnât you realise we are living in an elected dictatorship?
tiger65:
Solly:
tiger65:
A little bit of irony seems to get lost in translation. Just a personal opinion (we are allowed those on here arenât we?) thatâs all, no need to get angry folks.Youâre right of courseâŚbut it just goes to show how a âTranslationâ can cause disputes.
Fair point and no malice intended.
None taken mate.
streaky:
Solly:
interlog:
And relationships work two ways. If you make it clear you are prepared to strike, then be not surprised if an employer will not just roll over to your demands.
Agreed. Relationships work both waysâŚbut not when you are dealing with dictators as in your example
streaky:
Solly:
interlog:
You never had the âreasonable requestâ one thrown at you before?
I always used to get it, along with the look of âdonât do this for me then Iâll make you suffer!â
Iâm very surpised if you havenât or Iâve been working for [zb] for years
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Yeah the âReasonable requestâ is a humdinger. Although to be honest I was in haulage at a time when TMâs were quite human and new the limitation of their âRequestsâ and what to expect from hard working drivers who took no (zb) from anyone. And the drivers had recourse to a fair hearing.
Thatcher put paid to that justice at the demands of her âEmployersâ and âPolitical FinanciersââŚCBI, Major shareholders of Corporations etc.
Yes Iâve experienced those âRequestsâ and TM âLooks of threatâ but I was taught the trade by some hardened drivers who always maintained that in reply to such demandsâŚtell the TM that " I donât have to work for you". That seemed to take the officious wind out of their sails.
interlog:
The employers can have a bit of fun with that now.Employer to tanker driver: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: but it is a reasonable request. Needs of the business. OK, this time I wonât make you do it, but expect me to make this reasonable request again tomorrw
Employer following day: now that the rules have been relaxed a little, you can do this second run for me.
Tanker driver: nah donât want to do that
Employer: This is now the second time youâre refusing a reasonable request. Disciplinary hearing tomorrow!
Turn traffic news on and stay in longest queue to run out of Time.
dont think they will ask you again
Martin:
I did read somewhere that one day of panic buying netted the government an extra ÂŁ34,000,000 in various duties and taxes on fuel, could have been a ploy to balance the books by the chancellor
Yes an extra 34 mill in before the end of the financial year does make you wonder !