Turbstar i take my hat off to you …100 % 
Turbostar:
I had a vehicle at the last protest at stanlow in 2000 , did it make a difference well yes the government dropped the road tax and by doing so it gave the operator the option of leaving the truck in the yard if the rate was rubbish, The biggest problem with this industry is too many operators have insufficient funds to operate with and also they have not got a clue what it is costing them to run a truck. ( maritime pay £ 1.21 per mile ) well more fool you for trying to run on rates like that you need a average of at least £ 1.60 per mile or your doomed to failure, is diesel too expensive well in my opinion no it is not we all have to pay the same so that is fair competition . We would do better to campaign to stop the cash & carry of limited companies and make the directors personally responsible for their debts you cannot compete with a firm who does not pay its bills.
I cannot fault that post, and I said something similar myself earlier this week. I shall find a link.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66320#p828690
Something to do with prepack admin
Turbostar:
carryfast the government wants the freight off the roads so it will do all it can to make this happen ( its what the public want )
Exactly and one of the methods it’s using is to tax trucks off the road by making the fuel costs unsustainable.It’s also using the same policy to rig the taxation system in a way where high income earners pay less of their incomes,as a proportion,by putting more of the taxation burden onto indirect taxation in which high earners pay tax at the same rate as low earners.
However they’re not bright enough to realise that doing that will not only wreck the British road transport industry,which as you say both the government and the public want,but they’ll also wreck the economy as a whole by creating the type of inflation and resulting recession in the economy which will make 1980 look like a boom.
But in that context how would your idea of raising transport rates help the industry 
and making limited liability operators liable for their finances,if they take up that suicidal idea,will just add to the country’s banking deficit,by adding to the negative equity in the housing market,when their houses get re po’d and when the banks try to sell them in a collapsed housing market. 
So as you’ve admitted the government wants freight off the road but the question is why would anyone in the industry want to help them do it .Sounds like Turkeys voting for christmas to me.
I’m a photographer and film-maker. Stanlow is almost on my doorstep and I expected, from the mood on here, about a gazillion trucks to be involved last week, roads at a standstill, banners, ■■■■■■■ dancing girls on a flatbed (well, maybe not). So I went out to film and photograph the great event.
Couple of hundred vehicles, mainly cars, tooting and flashing and probably feeling good about the involvement in the struggle. Well done the participants for … turning up.
I have no idea what the preparation was, as I only came on here last week as a peripherally interested party, but I’m guessing that it didn’t match the previous mass protest. Perhaps some lateral thinking is required.
Robert Malcolm:
I’m a photographer and film-maker. Stanlow is almost on my doorstep and I expected, from the mood on here, about a gazillion trucks to be involved last week, roads at a standstill, banners, ■■■■■■■ dancing girls on a flatbed (well, maybe not). So I went out to film and photograph the great event.Couple of hundred vehicles, mainly cars, tooting and flashing and probably feeling good about the involvement in the struggle. Well done the participants for … turning up.
I have no idea what the preparation was, as I only came on here last week as a peripherally interested party, but I’m guessing that it didn’t match the previous mass protest. Perhaps some lateral thinking is required.
I think you need to do your homework before coming out with such statements. 
Robert Malcolm:
I’m a photographer and film-maker. Stanlow is almost on my doorstep and I expected, from the mood on here, about a gazillion trucks to be involved last week, roads at a standstill, banners, ■■■■■■■ dancing girls on a flatbed (well, maybe not). So I went out to film and photograph the great event.Couple of hundred vehicles, mainly cars, tooting and flashing and probably feeling good about the involvement in the struggle. Well done the participants for … turning up.
I have no idea what the preparation was, as I only came on here last week as a peripherally interested party, but I’m guessing that it didn’t match the previous mass protest. Perhaps some lateral thinking is required.
it was put together in 11 days there is another one 25th feb , but dont think i will put it on here as there is no support
rustyred9:
it was put together in 11 days there is another one 25th feb , but dont think i will put it on here as there is no support
Or you do not like hearing the truth, fuel protests are old hat, we haven’t had a reduction in fuel duty through refinery blockages, roundabout days, or refusing to buy fuel from BP.
If you block the gates of the fuel depot, it only really affects the general public. If you advertise a fuel protest or a strike, the haulage companies top up their depot storage and carry on as normal.
When you get 1000 Stobart trucks and 2000 Wincanton trucks blocking the gates, you may get somewhere, but farmer Giles on his Nuffield, a couple of chavs and Mr Bean in his blinged up Scolvo are hardly newsworthy
your entitled to your opinion , am glad you can afford to fill up your vehicle , unlike others who live in the sticks or pensioners ( which you will be one day )
rustyred9:
your entitled to your opinion , am glad you can afford to fill up your vehicle , unlike others who live in the sticks or pensioners ( which you will be one day )
Ooooh… The guilt card…
Personally I don’t see any point to it, waste of time! When you get 1000 Stobart trucks and 2000 Wincanton trucks blocking the gates with the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda, etc. and other similar sized corporates backing you, then it will probably make a difference.
Bob
lumpygreenpoo:
rustyred9:
your entitled to your opinion , am glad you can afford to fill up your vehicle , unlike others who live in the sticks or pensioners ( which you will be one day )Ooooh… The guilt card…
Personally I don’t see any point to it, waste of time! When you get 1000 Stobart trucks and 2000 Wincanton trucks blocking the gates with the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda, etc. and other similar sized corporates backing you, then it will probably make a difference.
Bob
its hard for these people to fathom that they need the big companies behind them, the fact being its gonna be hard as they probably pay alot less per litre than your one man band operator