wthat is normal limit allowed in you company??what company do if you to many time drive not very economicly■■?
Andrejs:
wthat is normal limit allowed in you company??what company do if you to many time drive not very economicly■■?
done on use of cruise,harsh braking,idling,not sure of % for idling/cruise but harsh braking is once in a shift,what does the company do if you dont achive there targets 
,you simply dont get paid bonus for day/ week,
you use to be gauranteed it on multi-drops but thats now been knocked on head,if you dont achieve it[difficult round city centres to get it on cruise] enough ,again you dont get it.
the bonus used to be £5 per day,but times are hard,well thats what the letter said,so been cut to £4 perv day,to stave of job cuts,or at least reduce them
when i driver basicly around 10 m/g.yesterday was 9.59was full lauded,about 25 tonne.mersedes axor ).some day around 11 p/m.yes all depend form load weight ,road ,traffic
we measure
Idling
Coasting in gear
Engine load
Within Econony
We dont look at mpg and definately not cc.
We improved our fuel effeciency from 8.4mpg to 10.1 in two years using these metrics.
Hope this helps
Andrejs:
when i driver basicly around 10 m/g.yesterday was 9.59was full lauded,about 25 tonne.mersedes axor ).some day around 11 p/m.yes all depend form load weight ,road ,traffic
if im in one of our g-380 i often get 12/13 mpg,400-440,s are more like 8/9 mpg,as poster above says our lots not intrested in m.p.g[or dont seem to be].there just intrested in use of cruise,idling,harsh braking,the fact one type of truck does nigh on 4 mpg more than the others doesnt seem to intrest them[although it should].
Some companies seem to analyse driving stats to death (if they have someone specifically employed to do that - watch out!) e.g. I was at Bougheys earlier, mad keen on H&S, but even their drivers’ stats (on display) are a year out of date so I assume their fuel efficiency expert has left. Our lot monitor nothing but I still like to see how much fuel can be eked out especially as it adds to my bottom line.
yellowasp:
we measureIdling
Coasting in gear
Engine load
Within EcononyWe dont look at mpg and definately not cc.
We improved our fuel effeciency from 8.4mpg to 10.1 in two years using these metrics.
Hope this helps
“Idling” and “Within Economy” I can understand but “Coasting in gear” - do you mean “on the overrun” as I can’t see how that’s wrong or right (in black and white terms); certainly not avoidable at times. I thought coasting was out of gear? Which is considered bad, “coasting” in or out (of gear)? You can coast (legally I presume as this (going out of gear if “throttle” is closed) is a economical/environmental feature of the i-shift gearbox) for nigh-on 4 miles from just off M1 J29 down to Chesterfield. Any longer rolls in England anyone? Beat that! I have no doubt you can.
And “Engine Load” - I understand a big “throttle opening” might be unecomomical but surely with a heavy load on uphill any engine should be under considerable load, so what does that mean? (Engine Load analysis).
I use cruise control as much as possible, that way it’s the lorrys fault not mine 
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Snudger:
Some companies seem to analyse driving stats to death (if they have someone specifically employed to do that - watch out!) e.g. I was at Bougheys earlier, mad keen on H&S, but even their drivers’ stats (on display) are a year out of date so I assume their fuel efficiency expert has left.OR …we now get all our fuel data in our wage packets as its a ll printed off via telematics.
I don’t worry about it, when they consider proper planning and not the customer said it has to go, even though its less than half a load, I can possibly make a 1-2 mpg difference.
My small dlfference is out of the window when I have done two 400mile journeys with half a load to the same place in a week because " It has to go " 
Snudger:
Some companies seem to analyse driving stats to death (if they have someone specifically employed to do that - watch out!) e.g. I was at Bougheys earlier, mad keen on H&S, but even their drivers’ stats (on display) are a year out of date so I assume their fuel efficiency expert has left. Our lot monitor nothing but I still like to see how much fuel can be eked out especially as it adds to my bottom line.yellowasp:
we measureIdling
Coasting in gear
Engine load
Within EcononyWe dont look at mpg and definately not cc.
We improved our fuel effeciency from 8.4mpg to 10.1 in two years using these metrics.
Hope this helps
“Idling” and “Within Economy” I can understand but “Coasting in gear” - do you mean “on the overrun” as I can’t see how that’s wrong or right (in black and white terms); certainly not avoidable at times. I thought coasting was out of gear? Which is considered bad, “coasting” in or out (of gear)? You can coast (legally I presume as this (going out of gear if “throttle” is closed) is a economical/environmental feature of the i-shift gearbox) for nigh-on 4 miles from just off M1 J29 down to Chesterfield. Any longer rolls in England anyone? Beat that! I have no doubt you can.
And “Engine Load” - I understand a big “throttle opening” might be unecomomical but surely with a heavy load on uphill any engine should be under considerable load, so what does that mean? (Engine Load analysis).
Been a while since I was last here. Coasting is simply foot off accelerator letting the momentum of the truck carry you along… Coming up to junction etc.
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I don’t worry about it, when they consider proper planning and not the customer said it has to go, even though its less than half a load, I can possibly make a 1-2 mpg difference.
My small dlfference is out of the window when I have done two 400mile journeys with half a load to the same place in a week because " It has to go "
We are in a service industry, selling haulage.
Surely two loads are better than one?
Eco roll is different. That puts the truck in temp neutral… Roll further but uses fuel. A trade off in some areas.
Engine load is what you are saying but can be reduced in certain areas. Up hill with a heavy load not really. But certainly can be reduced… To long to go into on here. Our average Mpg around 11.2 now BTW. However with new technology coming along they will need to rethink their metrics as truck software is starting to utilise these techniques
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Our place measures everything; mpg must be 10 mpg minimum or you get pulled. The biggies are cruise control and engine idle. Cruise control needs to be 70% minimum but they are looking for 80% use, so really ya need to be using it on roundabouts, up and down the yard, etc, whenever you’re above 15 km/h basically.
One thing switching off has made me realise is how many drivers sit in their cab with the engine running for no reason - for me now the only time the engine is running is when the truck needs to move, with modern engines there really is no reason not to 
These useless snotgobblers will obsess over 0.00001 mpg and then send you 75 miles only to be told “that load went yesterday Drive”.
Nothing at all where I work. My boss doesn’t check on fuel consumption not even to compare my wagon with a demonstrator we had. He’ll happily leave a truck ticking over while he loads it or to warm it up during a 15 minute check.
My cruise control doesn’t work properly so I use the throttle limit switch instead.
We plod about on local work so worrying about mpg isn’t as important as whether we have any cider or beer in the yards’ fridge for Friday evenings. 
I’ve done work with companies that use that Isotrack rubbish. Green band driving or whatever, sod that. I’ll drive the truck the way the road dictates. Good thing about our place is they aren’t fussed unless you’re idling for ages.
when i was at solstor, they use to keep a chart on the wall showing who was the best, and the worst ( bottom of the list basically ) and they would pull you…when they got a new bod in, he decided that leaving the engine running when coupling up was a no no…so he introduced a new practice. after doing all the checks on the unit.
- reverse up to trailer
- switch engine off
- connect air lines
3a start engine - reverse under trailer fully
- tug test
- switch engine off
7 wind up legs - take off trailer brake
8a start engine - pull forward
9a stop engine - close rear doors
- do all the checks on the trailer
Then run the engine to build up the air in the trailer and the unit etc. then go to the office for paperwork.
he did mention to me that when on a night out, i often ran the engine last thing at night, and also first thing in the morning…he asked why, so i told him that with all the electrical gadgets like, kettle, fridge, tv/dvd player, night heater, phone chargers and demisters to clear the screen in the morning of condensation etc, i was making sure not to kill the batteries. So he said it was wasting fuel and had to stop.
Next day i went to Liverpool, and did what he told me to do, alas, at 0400 i had to call him whilst he was in bed, to say the night heater wasnt working, and the engine wouldnt start, i believe it cost the company £350 for a call out, to jump start me…so thats what you get when a clever clogs new boy, tries to make a name for himself, when he knows nothing about transport externally…he never bothered me again.
We measure hard braking, hard acceleration, idle time, cruise control and MPG.
Each depot has a target of I think its 8.83MPG and if your depot gets over that you get a bonus. Doing store deliveries on a day or doing a night trunk returning empty its very easy to hit 10MPG average. Doing the Lockerbie run coming back fully freighted you’re pushing it to hit the target unless you’ve had a light load running up. I usually average 29-32l/100km doing a Lockerbie but when its been really windy I’ve had as high as 36l/100km. Really brings home the difference when you see the fuel pump clocking over 220l when you’re used to seeing around 175-180l.
We get paid a dynafleet bonus. A pound per point, paid the first payday of the month. I normally get between £91 and £95 a month. We’re not limited in speed but if you want high points you need to knock it off a couple of clicks. With all the other parameters like idling and coasting, it brings good fuel consumption through the back door. It’s a much fairer system than straight mpg to be honest
According to my dashboard display, my engine spends about 300 hours a year idling. Probably 80% of that is while waiting at traffic etc so that would be about 60 hours a year idling to power the inverter while using the microwave, running the engine at the end of the evening to charge the batteries if I’m not in earshot of anybody and just because I can’t be arsed to keep turning the engine off and on every time I jump out to open the trailer doors.
It uses 0.6 gallons of diesel an hour idling so that’s 36 gallons, diesel next week is 85.27 pence per litre which is about £4.20 a gallon so my “unnecessary” idling cost for fuel per annum is about £150.
If I turned the engine off and on again at every possibly opportunity I could probably save about £100 a year in diesel, but that would just wear out the starter motor three times as quickly, and they are £800 so where’s the logic?