Fuel economy

Sploom:
Carryfast.
I dont know what Satan has to do with global warming!
But seriously here is a page about the annual parts per million of CO2.You can see how it has risen by a quarter since 1970 and it is rising every year.
climate.gov/news-features/u … on-dioxide

You dont need to be a mathematician to work out you either need to produce less of the stuff or you have to find ways of removing it in order to reverse the trend

25% of 0.04% ain’t going to cook the planet and don’t believe it was 0.03% in 1970 anyway.
Satan as in your nuke, tree burning, and solar panel fuelled utopian dreams.Which certainly will poison and wreck God’s green Earth.

Sploom:

Star down under.:

Sploom:
andrew.s
Unfortunatley,I have to drive to work because there arent any jobs within walking distance and working up to 15 hours,it’s not possible to cycle to and from work although I did it once and it was a terrifying exoerience having trucks wizzing past on the A roads.
I dont class my truck’s emmisions as part of my carbon footprint.It’s ultimatley the customer who needs the goods delivered.You cant take all the trucks off the road,I get that.Its like,if you book a holiday on one of those huge cruise ships,you cant expect the captain of the ship to be responsible for the huge envoiremental damage they cause.Ive seen them at Southampton bellowing out huge amounts of black smoke,they’re a disgrace

I hold the ships’ captains responsible, if they refused to sail, the murderous smoke wouldn’t be produced.
If you were as responsible as you expect everyone else to be, you would either get a job closer to home, or a home closer to the job.

Its a 20 minute drive for me to get to work in my one litre car

Yeah but if everyone thought like that we’d never make any progress would we?
Sound familiar?

Sploom:
I wish I could ride my bike to work but its simply too impractical.

Impractical or just too much of a bother? I understand totally why you drive to work, we all do mate, it’s just more convenient. However the reason you post has garnered so much negativity is the hypocrisy of it. Yes, we’d all love to save the planet, but despite our individual best efforts whatever we do is but a drop in the ocean.

Speaking of hypocrisy, take a look at Jemima here, she’s spent a busy week glueing herself to the M25 and is now proudly wearing her stop oil tee shirt whilst jetting off for a cheeky weekender in Malaga.

As I said, hypocrisy.

The thing is,Ive only suggested we should do things within what is reasonable.I might work a15 hour shift,9 hours off.I have to bring a certain amount of stuff to work in case I get stuck on a night out and so on.On top of that,it would mean riding a bike on busy A roads in the dark,a lot of the time,with lorries coming up behind.If its raining,maybe they wont see me even.OK,it is doable,but it seems a bit extteme to me.If I was working 9 to 5 in an office in the city centre with cycle paths most of the time,then yes,I would ride a bike and its a great way to keep fit too.
They dont typically build distribution centres near houses and schools so you would be lucky if you were able to walk or cycle to them

Ive only suggested people do easy things like driving a more economical car,drive your truck economically,that wont hurt you and Im surprised how less stressful the job has become since I started doing it.And,again,cruise ships,if you never go on a cruise again,it wont hurt you either.Who would want to be stuffed in with so many people anyway,I never understood the attraction.
The other thing is,you can choose green energy from your supplier even if it costs a little more,if youre on 50k you wont notice a few extra pennied

Sploom:
Ive only suggested people do easy things like driving a more economical car,drive your truck economically,that wont hurt you and Im surprised how less stressful the job has become since I started doing it.And,again,cruise ships,if you never go on a cruise again,it wont hurt you either.Who would want to be stuffed in with so many people anyway,I never understood the attraction.
The other thing is,you can choose green energy from your supplier even if it costs a little more,if youre on 50k you wont notice a few extra pennied

Drive a more economical car? No thanks.

Sploom:
Ive only suggested people do easy things like driving a more economical car,drive your truck economically,that wont hurt you and Im surprised how less stressful the job has become since I started doing it.And,again,cruise ships,if you never go on a cruise again,it wont hurt you either.Who would want to be stuffed in with so many people anyway,I never understood the attraction.
The other thing is,you can choose green energy from your supplier even if it costs a little more,if youre on 50k you wont notice a few extra pennied

Those pics you put on here of you holidaying in the US…
Wtf were you thinking flying over there and putting your grand kid’s lives at risk with the lomg term effects of burning jet fuel. :unamused:
Or are you more of a…‘‘selective’’ environmentalist, or even a part time one. :smiley:

Yes,good point Robroy,but I wasnt thinking so much about global warming at the time.It’s only recently I woke up to the reality of it,how bad the problem really is

Sploom:
Yes,good point Robroy,but I wasnt thinking so much about global warming at the time.It’s only recently I woke up to the reality of it,how bad the problem really is

So what you saying?
No more flights, no more hols?
Be like the rest of us mate say ‘Ahh ■■■■ it’ and let those in.charge do the worrying. :bulb:

I like flying as much as anyone,but I think there are other less painful options to reduce greenhouse gases than stopping flights and when you book a flight you have the option of offsetting your carbon ,for what it’s worth.

Sploom:
I like flying as much as anyone,but I think there are other less painful options to reduce greenhouse gases than stopping flights and when you book a flight you have the option of offsetting your carbon ,for what it’s worth.

Just like the celebs that cross the Atlantic in first class because the message is so imo, as long as they don’t suffer

Sploom:
I like flying as much as anyone,but I think there are other less painful options to reduce greenhouse gases than stopping flights and when you book a flight you have the option of offsetting your carbon ,for what it’s worth.

Ahh right, so you show concern for the Planet, you preach to the rest of us what we should and should not be doing, but you ain’t prepared to sacrifice your enjoyment for your supposed strong principles, nor as you put it to paraphrase…‘Save your grandkid’s lives’.

Love the use of ‘offsetting your carbon’ comment/ b/s /popular buzzwords. :smiley:
Do you swallow everything you are told by bodies of authority and repeat it ?..as if you know what you are talking about?

Sploom:
I like flying as much as anyone,but I think there are other less painful options to reduce greenhouse gases than stopping flights and when you book a flight you have the option of offsetting your carbon ,for what it’s worth.

You mean that others have to change their life style and choices to pay for yours.
Such as your laughable claim that sea transport is a problem regarding fuel efficiency.

Sploom:
Ive only suggested people do easy things like driving a more economical car,drive your truck economically,that wont hurt you and Im surprised how less stressful the job has become since I started doing it.And,again,cruise ships,if you never go on a cruise again,it wont hurt you either.Who would want to be stuffed in with so many people anyway,I never understood the attraction.
The other thing is,you can choose green energy from your supplier even if it costs a little more,if youre on 50k you wont notice a few extra pennied

How do you choose only supposed ‘green energy’ when all electricity generation is fed into and supplied by the same grid.
Bearing in mind that nuke, biomass, and solar are anything but green.
No doubt you use gas fired heating to go with your air travel choices in that regard.

robroy:

Sploom:
I like flying as much as anyone,but I think there are other less painful options to reduce greenhouse gases than stopping flights and when you book a flight you have the option of offsetting your carbon ,for what it’s worth.

Ahh right, so you show concern for the Planet, you preach to the rest of us what we should and should not be doing, but you ain’t prepared to sacrifice your enjoyment for your supposed strong principles, nor as you put it to paraphrase…‘Save your grandkid’s lives’.

Love the use of ‘offsetting your carbon’ comment/ b/s /popular buzzwords. :smiley:
Do you swallow everything you are told by bodies of authority and repeat it ?..as if you know what you are talking about?

Sploom’s definition of ‘Offsetting’ means that I have to give up my cars and road trip and sea travel holidays to ‘offset’ his fuel guzzling aircraft trips etc.
No doubt he also hasn’t ditched the gas heating.

So,with the ULEZ you dont want to pay extra to good causes and you dont want to pay extra for flights to offset your carbon because you feel ,on both occasions,the money will go astray.
Is this your default position then,when it comes to throwing money at a problem?

Meanwhile in America it’s hammer down.

Sploom:
So,with the ULEZ you dont want to pay extra to good causes and you dont want to pay extra for flights to offset your carbon because you feel ,on both occasions,the money will go astray.
Is this your default position then,when it comes to throwing money at a problem?

If you are talking to me it’s a no,.no and a yes.

As for throwing money at a problem as you put it…if I chucked my life savings twice over at it, it would not make a ■■■■ of a difference…apart maybe from making me poor (er).
So my last answer would be…‘‘Aye if you like’’. :neutral_face:

OK,Robroy.
I have to get back to you on that.
Wine to be drunk now…

With the price of fuel these days it constantly surprises me the way people accelerate up to traffic lights / junctions / roundabouts and have to brake well before they get there.

Today a Porsche comes flying past me in a 50mph limit, going probably 65-70mph, only to have to put the brakes on for the roundabout a quarter of a mile up the road.

I totally get driving at 75 - 80 mph on the motorway on a journey that is a non-trivial distance. No problem there, but on a quarter mile stretch, really?

I’m imagining Sploom has one of those patio heaters that churns out heat that is immediately blown away in the wind and probably a jacuzzi on 24-7 in the back garden. But that is okay, because he pays people to plant trees and drives a lorry efficiently.