front fogs

is it just me that gets pee’d off with this. a perfectly clear night, on a well lit motorway/trunk road so why the need?
is it just because they are there that people feel the need to use them? do they think its cool?
seems to be happening more and more these days and seems to be plenty of truck, “drivers” doing it aswell.

i give them some main beams. if they want to blind me with a cluster of lights i will blind them back :imp:

I know bell ends.

I think people get mixed up these days with all the lights that are available, I have day lights that are often mistaken for fog lights. Also on cars like a Mini they have spot lights in the bumper and a headlight when on dipped beam.

This is when I have everything turned off (apart from the ID lights at the top)
The side lights are on as well as the day lights in the bumper, you can over ride this which I often do I the daytime. But all of what you see here is when my light switch is in the fully off position.

I thought that the use of front fogs were illegal unless weather and road conditions are bad??

Very annoying, also the folk who insist on main beam all the time on unlit twintracks.

Socketset:
I thought that the use of front fogs were illegal unless weather and road conditions are bad??

Very annoying, also the folk who insist on main beam all the time on unlit twintracks.

to be honest, i did aswell. amazing how many people think that rain counts as bad weather :unamused:
i could be wrong, but assumed that front fogs, were just for that, fog. any other time, just pointless and a minor annoyance to someone like me.

FarnboroughBoy11:

This is when I have everything turned off (apart from the ID lights at the top)
The side lights are on as well as the day lights in the bumper, you can over ride this which I often do I the daytime. But all of what you see here is when my light switch is in the fully off position.

The scania I drive is exactly the same,in the off position the DRL’s are always on.
Did i read right? Can you turn them off completely?

Yes mate, to the left of the steering wheel, you know where you have the main beam option for bumper lights or the roof lights and the fog lights and also the rear light on the cat walk for hooking up in the dark etc. On mine if you hold the bottom left button for 3 secs everything should go off. I’ll try and find a pic or get a pic on monday.

FarnboroughBoy11:
Yes mate, to the left of the steering wheel, you know where you have the main beam option for bumper lights or the roof lights and the fog lights and also the rear light on the cat walk for hooking up in the dark etc. On mine if you hold the bottom left button for 3 secs everything should go off. I’ll try and find a pic or get a pic on monday.

Ah cheers mate. I’m in tomorrow so will have a try.

Cheese me off too…

… anyone else think those ‘cornering’ lights are a bit misleading? In as much as, you see someone else (in front or to your side) perhaps turning off and your peripheral vision picks up a ‘flash’ from the other vehicle. Bloody things :imp: :unamused:

chilistrucker:

Socketset:
I thought that the use of front fogs were illegal unless weather and road conditions are bad??

Very annoying, also the folk who insist on main beam all the time on unlit twintracks.

to be honest, i did aswell. amazing how many people think that rain counts as bad weather :unamused:
i could be wrong, but assumed that front fogs, were just for that, fog. any other time, just pointless and a minor annoyance to someone like me.

If the auxilliary lights are ABOVE a certain height from the road they are classed as “driving lights” and may be used with side lights, dipped headlights or main beam headlights.
When the lighyts are BELOW a certain height they are “fog lamps” and may only be used in conditions of fog or falling snow, either weith sidelights or dipped headflights.
If I was less of a lazy old sod I would look up the exact height at which the demarcation line falls, but, seeing that my tea’s about to burn itself to a crisp in the oven, I’ll have to leave it to someone else!

Well, it used to be that foglights had to be mounted between 2’ and 3’ 6" from the ground,and have fluted lenses.As ROF has said,only to be used in fog or falling snow.That seems to have fallen by the wayside now what with the extremely bright LED running lights on an increasing number of cars, and the low mounted ‘see around corner’ lights on Mercs,BMs etc.

Been done to death but here goes.

Front fog lamps may be fitted to vehicles in addition to the obligatory headlamps. New vehicles may be fitted wit a maximum of two front fog lamps. These must be fitted so they are not more than 1,200mm from the ground, there is no minimum height limit.

If the front fog lamps are to be used instead of dipped beam headlamps in conditions of seriously reduced visibility, then they must be not more than 400mm in from the side of the vehicle. If they are only to be used in conjunction with the dipped beam headlamps, there is no lateral position specification.

The lamps must show either a white or yellow light to the front and must bear an approval mark.

And they must ONLY be used when visibility is reduced below 100M’s the type of weather or the time of day does not affect this rule

Must’ve missed the other posts on this subject :blush: Thank you for that post, mike68 :smiley:

Cant say it bothers me.

on a slightly oblique note i got a bollocking off a copper for using my front fogs in quite heavy falling snow last year. i quite enjoyed educating him as to the legality of the way i was using them… he went away looking quite sheepish.

Saaamon:
Cant say it bothers me.

Me neither. Can’t say I’ve ever felt dazzled by anyone’s either. The trick is with lights is not to stare directly at them :wink:

Even worse is now M.A.N are owned by VW, they’ve inherited VW’s downright stupid idea that turning the fogs on when indicating or turning does anything except make you look like a right royal rodney!

The new DRL’s on Scania’s are bloody bright and do look like fogs, unlike the Actros which you can tell is a DRL by the shape.

mike68:
Been done to death but here goes.

Front fog lamps may be fitted to vehicles in addition to the obligatory headlamps. New vehicles may be fitted wit a maximum of two front fog lamps. These must be fitted so they are not more than 1,200mm from the ground, there is no minimum height limit.

If the front fog lamps are to be used instead of dipped beam headlamps in conditions of seriously reduced visibility, then they must be not more than 400mm in from the side of the vehicle. If they are only to be used in conjunction with the dipped beam headlamps, there is no lateral position specification.

The lamps must show either a white or yellow light to the front and must bear an approval mark.

And they must ONLY be used when visibility is reduced below 100M’s the type of weather or the time of day does not affect this rule

See what happens as soon as you leave gainfull employment? Many thanks for the update, matey.