From a flipflops perspective

This is a bit of a about face thread, most of the other threads slate the EE drivers to death.
But it’s cases like this that these EE drivers want to better their lives by whatever means and that usually means taking what we class as low paid driving vacancies in the uk.
I’m away for 3 - 5 weeks at a time, and one thing I can say about some of them is they don’t like to see a driver on their own, even if they are a different nationality, many a time I’ve been offered a coffee or beer while I’ve been weekended, and they wouldn’t think twice of offering you a bowl of stew or soup on a cold day.

Grumpy Dad:
This is a bit of a about face thread, most of the other threads slate the EE drivers to death.
But it’s cases like this that these EE drivers want to better their lives by whatever means and that usually means taking what we class as low paid driving vacancies in the uk.
I’m away for 3 - 5 weeks at a time, and one thing I can say about some of them is they don’t like to see a driver on their own, even if they are a different nationality, many a time I’ve been offered a coffee or beer while I’ve been weekended, and they wouldn’t think twice of offering you a bowl of stew or soup on a cold day.

And be the first to get out of his cab to watch you back or help out while Billy Brit sits on his arse or films you to post on u tube

Grumpy Dad:
This is a bit of a about face thread, most of the other threads slate the EE drivers to death.
But it’s cases like this that these EE drivers want to better their lives by whatever means and that usually means taking what we class as low paid driving vacancies in the uk.
I’m away for 3 - 5 weeks at a time, and one thing I can say about some of them is they don’t like to see a driver on their own, even if they are a different nationality, many a time I’ve been offered a coffee or beer while I’ve been weekended, and they wouldn’t think twice of offering you a bowl of stew or soup on a cold day.

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Most will quite happily offer a bowl of stewed up whatever and i offer them something in return. Cameraderie is still alive and well in the EE’s…

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I’ve been slated on here many times for sticking up for EE and foreign drivers in general.
Many of the gob ■■■■■ s who slag them can’t even differentiate between E and W Euro drivers in their slagging off :unamused: , so they include the Dutch, Belgians, Germans etc.
Some of these knobs would ■■■■ themselves if they had to go south of Dover or East of Hull themselves :unamused:

Many a time I’ve jumped out of a left ■■■■■■ and got a load of abuse from some limp ■■■■ ‘‘superior’’ Brit driver.
Then I answered back in native English something along the lines of… ''And who tf do you think you’re talking to pal"
the look of surprise comes up followed by ‘‘Oh sorry mate I thought you were a foreigner’’…AS IF that excused it! :open_mouth:
Used to do my ■■■■ swede in it did. :imp:

robroy:
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I’ve been slated on here many times for sticking up for EE and foreign drivers in general.
Many of the gob [zb] s who slag them can’t even differentiate between E and W Euro drivers in their slagging off :unamused: , so they include the Dutch, Belgians, Germans etc.
Some of these knobs would [zb] themselves if they had to go south of Dover or East of Hull themselves :unamused:

Many a time I’ve jumped out of a left ■■■■■■ and got a load of abuse from some limp ■■■■ ‘‘superior’’ Brit driver when I answered back in native English something along the lines of… ''And who tf do you think you’re talking to pal"
the look of surprise comes up followed by ‘‘Oh sorry mate I thought you were a foreigner’’…AS IF that excused it! :open_mouth:
Used to do my [zb] swede in it did. :imp:

I like it when you get to the gatehouse to book in and they speak to you in broken English and whatever they assume is an EE language, I always want to ask if they have a speech impediment but never had the balls to :laughing:
Not driven a left ■■■■■■ for years, but even in a RHD as soon as the booking in clerk sees a CMR you have to be foreign.

A EE delivered to me earlier this yr ,he parked and walked a mile to find us and scout the rd out , I ran him back to the lorry in the van ,then he had to wait whilst I fetched a bigger forklift from home ,I gave him £20 he was over the moon .

Don’t expect the sudden loss of EU truck driver when BREXIT is final.You can bet they will have skills lists for who ever they want to let in.And I bet they are already being discussed around the old boys clubs tables …

Beetlejuice:
Don’t expect the sudden loss of EU truck driver when BREXIT is final.You can bet they will have skills lists for who ever they want to let in.And I bet they are already being discussed around the old boys clubs tables …

Brexit wouldn’t effect it anyway, there’s always going to be supply and demand from European nations, imports / exports will continue as they do now, though clearing customs is going to be a problem.

Beetlejuice:
Don’t expect the sudden loss of EU truck driver when BREXIT is final.You can bet they will have skills lists for who ever they want to let in.And I bet they are already being discussed around the old boys clubs tables …

True enough BJ
Oh yes!Lets do trade deals with India,Africa and Asia,which involves free movement of goods,services,and eh people!Some crying coming down the road then!

I stopped at a not cheap but decent little roadside layby semi-perma-cafe for some breaky on Friday, as i left two Romanian lads had just parked in front (Romainian lorry) and we greeted each other as any normal lorryist would in passing, with a hello and quip about the cold.
I did wonder at the time why they would spend, if the wages are so bad, on an expensive breakfast, so maybe the lads running over here arn’t doing too bad, maybe they thought sod it too cold and can’t be arsed to get the cooker going in the minimal shelter offered by the trailer.

Juddian:
maybe they thought sod it too cold and can’t be arsed to get the cooker going in the minimal shelter offered by the trailer.

Im the same though Juddian, a bit old school and like to use the gas burner (outside only) rather than the microwave but cold/ p1ssing down and it stays in the trailer locker…

Grumpy Dad:

robroy:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I’ve been slated on here many times for sticking up for EE and foreign drivers in general.
Many of the gob [zb] s who slag them can’t even differentiate between E and W Euro drivers in their slagging off :unamused: , so they include the Dutch, Belgians, Germans etc.
Some of these knobs would [zb] themselves if they had to go south of Dover or East of Hull themselves :unamused:

Many a time I’ve jumped out of a left ■■■■■■ and got a load of abuse from some limp ■■■■ ‘‘superior’’ Brit driver when I answered back in native English something along the lines of… ''And who tf do you think you’re talking to pal"
the look of surprise comes up followed by ‘‘Oh sorry mate I thought you were a foreigner’’…AS IF that excused it! :open_mouth:
Used to do my [zb] swede in it did. :imp:

I like it when you get to the gatehouse to book in and they speak to you in broken English and whatever they assume is an EE language, I always want to ask if they have a speech impediment but never had the balls to :laughing:
Not driven a left ■■■■■■ for years, but even in a RHD as soon as the booking in clerk sees a CMR you have to be foreign.

Had this when back in the UK tipping at Reef One Norwich, left ■■■■■■ ES registered and i had the forkie speak to me in the usual trait c/w hand signs…he was a bit taken aback when a broad Norfolk boy spoke back… :grimacing:

As I pilot a Terberg every now and then I deal with lots of drivers, both EE and home grown and as I attempt to break the stereotype of the grumpy shunter I always greet drivers with a cheery “good morning/afternoon” (how they respond shapes the rest of our relationship). A couple of weeks ago I had to lock off a Spanish motor so I greeted him in Spanish to which he responded in Spanish, we then had a little conversation and he must’ve realised when I was down to ordering “one more beer please my friend” that I was rapidly running out of Spanish so he then reverted to fluent broad Yorkshire! Taught me not to judge a book by its cover!

the maoster:
As I pilot a Terberg every now and then I deal with lots of drivers, both EE and home grown and as I attempt to break the stereotype of the grumpy shunter I always greet drivers with a cheery “good morning/afternoon” (how they respond shapes the rest of our relationship). A couple of weeks ago I had to lock off a Spanish motor so I greeted him in Spanish to which he responded in Spanish, we then had a little conversation and he must’ve realised when I was down to ordering “one more beer please my friend” that I was rapidly running out of Spanish so he then reverted to fluent broad Yorkshire! Taught me not to judge a book by its cover!

We’re back to Del Boy again here bud.
Is your Spanish like his French? :wink: :laughing:

Strictly tourist Spanish Rob :smiley: I can manage to get myself ■■■■■■ as a handcart quite fluently, but would struggle to open a bank account in Madrid! :wink:

the maoster:
Strictly tourist Spanish Rob :smiley: I can manage to get myself ■■■■■■ as a handcart quite fluently, but would struggle to open a bank account in Madrid! :wink:

Cerveza…the only word needed… :grimacing:

Quattro mas is even better Andrew :smiley: :smiley:

the nodding donkey:

mat79:

the nodding donkey:

nsmith1180:
Not a whole lot to be done about it though. Europe insists on free movement of people and services and won’t interfere with that sacred principle so wont put a stop to it.

Hopefully this film will bring it to the attention of parliament though and they will insist that the UK puts a stop to it when we are out of the EU. I doubt it will happen though.

So what’s different from the days when the Brits were travelling across Europe, flinging tacho cards out of the window, overloading, and running for running money?

I suppose the difference was the Brits weren’t doing it for peanuts.

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Hahaha haha. …

As someone who started his driving career on the continent, the sight of a driver in a British registered truck, skint because he had ■■■■■■ his running money up the bar/down the one arm bandit on the boat, was a regular occurrence

But the British drivers had the money to go to a local hostelry and ■■■■ the money away and then to another local establishment and “eh! well enjoy the company” and while there were plenty of stories of the guys that did do it, there were plenty more who did well out of it.

These guys are basically stuck where they park, they can’t afford to go to the local bars and restaurants or even the ones where they parked if they are have them.
It wouldn’t be so bad if they were delivering goods from the Country where they are based to Western Europe, but instead they’re used by Western European companies as a source of cheap labour employed at far lower pay and conditions that would be allowed in the countries they are working in and the flip side of this, is the effect it has on the haulage industry and drivers in the Countries they are working in.

As for the drivers parked in places like Immingham, the EU hasn’t objected to France and Germany putting drivers working on cabotage under their minimum wage laws, only those delivering, so surely we can do the same even before we leave the EU, it just how you prove they getting the money when in the UK and of course those companies benefitting from this objecting.

Thats the reality Muckles, but this is where properly organised unions working together can make a difference.

On the transporters it was common to see a large number of EE lorries and drivers here for the peak registration periods (all gone now were heading into the next downturn), our convener insisted those lads were paid at the same rate as us natives, those EE lads must have thought Christmas had come.

If we had proper unionised places, warehouses RDC’s the lot, there could be agreements in place that unless the foreign driver’s could prove they were on a proper rate for the job, then no load unload, no sub contract, these days of instant communications could soon put a stop to any shunting fiddles going on where a native driver did the collection and delivery and the poor sod on 1/4 the wages did the trunking.
It can work, had the convenor’s insistence on proper rates been refused they’d never have loaded a car at a unionised depot/compound anywhere in the country.

Oh sorry i forget, there’s only a handful of us think that the working class need to organise and work together to prevent being shafted dry, carry on as you were.

Until we realise, and sadly few of us do, that the EE working man isn’t the enemy, he’s being shafted just like the rest of us by the system/politicians/traitors/ the unscrupulous, the strides our unionised forebears made have been taken away wholesale, those EE lads are just like the rest of the genuine working class, just trying to keep their heads afloat, we need to work together with them instead of divide and rule which suits the real enemy.

when they finish their 3 or 4 month shift…i wonder what they put on their manual entries for the lift back from belgium to slovakia?
or
possibly they would do what happens over here when you come off the boat and let the local guy tip and load you,which is nothing at all. :slight_smile: