raymundo:
quote by our residential know all … ‘Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex’You sure about that? but I bet an arrow in the eye didn’t help him much cos allegedly it killed him
You seem to have missed the definition of defeat,resistance and the bit about the ‘English nation’.IE ‘defeat’ in 1066 didn’t mean that ‘resistance’ to French rule couldn’t have turned defeat into victory after the death of the Conqueror. 
Winseer:
I don’t think there was a county of sussex in 1066 anyways.
It’s easy to make a Canute of yourself with these historical arguments regarding events a thousand years ago.
It would be fair to say that the Kingdom of Sussex existed long before 1066 and still would have been known by the name in 1066 although admittedly under the administration of Wessex by then.
Terry T:
villa:
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi.Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
I agree ,., bring back Tony Blair
No way. He started it all by getting rid of Saddam. Him and that moron Bush. [zb] the middle east. What we need is a Kim Jong Un in every non western country keeping these backward spastics in check. We should be funding Saddams and Jong-Uns not spending billions getting rid of them so someone worse can take over.
It wasn’t as simple as that.Saddam was a Russian puppet with the aim of threatening our Middle East oil supplies and the security of Israel.However that meant tying ourselves to the even worse Saudi regime which,together with Iran,is where the problems started.None of which would have mattered ‘if’ it hadn’t have been for our and the French and now the German suicidal immigration policies.
Daytrunker:
Just been on the news french police have identified 2 bombers have Syrian passports that got to France via Greece earlier in the year,shut the borders keep more of them out for good.Already opened “aid containers” meant for refugees and found them full of weapons how much more evidence does the wet pansy government need to shut up shop.
You have a link to this bit?
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
I remember when Saddams’ regime fell, the media showed us all those torture chambers he used. The unfortunate thing was, was that he was using them on those now running IS.
Saddam wasn’t an enemy of us, the only mistake he made was to invade Kuwait.
Wardaddy:
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
I remember when Saddams’ regime fell, the media showed us all those torture chambers he used. The unfortunate thing was, was that he was using them on those now running IS.
Saddam wasn’t an enemy of us, the only mistake he made was to invade Kuwait.
Not sure on that,
are Isil not majority Sunni and Saddam was Sunni??
That’s why he was caught near the Sunni majority city of Mosal which is now the main Isil stronghold in Iraq!!!
Frenchman arrested at Gatwick
Carryfast:
Save us the pro immigration apologist bs.The Irish troubles were/are all about a small localised misguided faction that didn’t want to accept the Anglo Irish treaty concerning the North South border.Who actually applied rules and restraint in what they did.Whereas Jihad is a totally different threat based on invasion and takeover by whatever means without rules.As we’ve seen in Israel,London,New York and Paris among other examples.
And on cue, the Irish apologist pokes out his turtles head. I don’t think your mates over the water would like being called a small localised misguided faction, but you know them better than me, I just had to help keep them in check, collect body parts, military & civilian, they didn’t really care which, you know what these animals are like. All based on another peaceful religion. The only real difference between these killers & those killers is that most of these are brown & your mates are white.
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Says everything about why we’re in such a zb mess with a military that’s been indoctrinated to think there’s the slightest comparison between Jihad v the Irish Nationalist v UK struggle let alone the three way fight which followed between Nationalist pro treaty,Unionist and Nationalist anti treaty factions.While it seems obvious that a total inability to differentiate the former from the latter and the skin colour issue is more important to you than national security.All based on a bs comparison between apples and oranges.
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What it tells me is that as long as you support a terrorist groups ideas it’s ok to kill innocent civilians & soldiers, but when you don’t support them it becomes a different sort of fight. You call it apples & oranges, I call it murderers & murderers, their reasons & ideals are irrelevant to those they’ve killed.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!+1
I recall a few years ago when this sort of bombing & killing happened here, the British Isles, on a regular basis, we didn’t nuke anyone then & I don’t see it happening here. Just as well as some on here really like Ireland & the Irish.Save us the pro immigration apologist bs.The Irish troubles were/are all about a small localised misguided faction that didn’t want to accept the Anglo Irish treaty concerning the North South border.Who actually applied rules and restraint in what they did.Whereas Jihad is a totally different threat based on invasion and takeover by whatever means without rules.As we’ve seen in Israel,London,New York and Paris among other examples.
The Irish troubles where about getting the English out of our country after they invaded it.simples!
Btw are there any Muslims on here.
Deeireland:
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!+1
I recall a few years ago when this sort of bombing & killing happened here, the British Isles, on a regular basis, we didn’t nuke anyone then & I don’t see it happening here. Just as well as some on here really like Ireland & the Irish.Save us the pro immigration apologist bs.The Irish troubles were/are all about a small localised misguided faction that didn’t want to accept the Anglo Irish treaty concerning the North South border.Who actually applied rules and restraint in what they did.Whereas Jihad is a totally different threat based on invasion and takeover by whatever means without rules.As we’ve seen in Israel,London,New York and Paris among other examples.
The Irish troubles where about getting the English out of our country after they invaded it.simples!
Btw are there any Muslims on here.
Pity your elected leaders sold your country to the EU then, just like our own traitors did with Britain.
Big Truck:
Wardaddy:
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
I remember when Saddams’ regime fell, the media showed us all those torture chambers he used. The unfortunate thing was, was that he was using them on those now running IS.
Saddam wasn’t an enemy of us, the only mistake he made was to invade Kuwait.Not sure on that,
are Isil not majority Sunni and Saddam was Sunni??
That’s why he was caught near the Sunni majority city of Mosal which is now the main Isil stronghold in Iraq!!!
He may well have been a happy sunny Muslim, but unlike the fanatical religious nut jobs he was ultimately just a dictator living a life of luxury off the back of his peasants. He was perfect for the job of managing the uncivilised savages.
BillyHunt:
Says everything about why we’re in such a zb mess with a military that’s been indoctrinated to think there’s the slightest comparison between Jihad v the Irish Nationalist v UK struggle let alone the three way fight which followed between Nationalist pro treaty,Unionist and Nationalist anti treaty factions.While it seems obvious that a total inability to differentiate the former from the latter and the skin colour issue is more important to you than national security.All based on a bs comparison between apples and oranges.
What it tells me is that as long as you support a terrorist groups ideas it’s ok to kill innocent civilians & soldiers, but when you don’t support them it becomes a different sort of fight. You call it apples & oranges, I call it murderers & murderers, their reasons & ideals are irrelevant to those they’ve killed.
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How to you jump to the conclusion,that stating a ‘clear difference’,in the ‘motivation’ and ‘methodology’,of the ‘misguided’ continuity factions of the Irish nationalist cause,which certainly weren’t that of Jihad and which were at least based on ‘rules’ which tried to minimise casualties means ‘support’ for that cause.Bearing in mind the description of ‘misguided’.On that note no I don’t remember even the provisional IRA hijacking aircraft and flying them into buildings,or taking civilian hostages and murdering them,or going on indiscriminate murder rampages,or not generally providing coded warnings in the case of taking out economic targets.Let alone having the motivation of wanting us all dead because we didn’t follow an Irish version of Sharia.That’s a statement of fact not support.
Deeireland:
Btw are there any Muslims on here.
Do you think if there is that they will own up, after reading some of the ill thought out bull ■■■■ spouted by some of the less intelligent amongst us on this thread 
It’s like saying all truckers are thick basts (although after reading some comments it’s hard to argue with that )
Or all Scousers are thieves, all hair stylists are gay, all Priests are paedos,…it’s ■■■■■■■■!!
As I have said I hate any form of religion end of, it is supernatural fantasy, that can NEVER be proven because of it’s nature, but there are good people and absolute arse wipes in any group, nationality, organisation and yeh…religion
I hate those radical ■■■■■■■ s, but it does not mean I have to hate ALL Muslims.
Deeireland:
The Irish troubles where about getting the English out of our country after they invaded it.simples!
No that all ended ( should have ended ) with the Anglo English treaty which Collins signed.Everything after that was an unjustified attempt to ignore the fact and equal rights of self determination of the localised loyalist majority in the North however inconvenient it might have been.None of which justifies Billy’s pro immigration Jihadist apologist bs.
Wtf has the Irish situation past and present to do with the French border problems and cosequences
robroy:
Deeireland:
Btw are there any Muslims on here.Do you think if there is that they will own up, after reading some of the ill thought out bull [zb] spouted by some of the less intelligent amongst us on this thread
It’s like saying all truckers are thick basts (although after reading some comments it’s hard to argue with that
Or all Scousers are thieves, all hair stylists are gay, all Priests are paedos,…it’s ■■■■■■■■!!
As I have said I hate any form of religion end of, it is supernatural fantasy, that can NEVER be proven because of it’s nature, but there are good people and absolute arse wipes in any group, nationality, organisation and yeh…religion
I hate those radical [zb] s, but it does not mean I have to hate ALL Muslims.
It isn’t a question of hating anyone it’s a question of defence in which we don’t have the luxury of being able to sort the good from the bad and not trying to integrate totally different alien cultures which breeds the hatred you’re moaning about.Meanwhile feel free to point out the so called ‘good’ parts and any ‘good’ agenda contained in the Koran.
robroy:
Wtf has the Irish situation past and present to do with the French border problems and cosequences
Don’t ask me ask Billy.He’s the one who tried to make the connection between Jihad and Irish nationalism in whatever form.
English culture and the Muslims culture doesn’t mix in my eyes …same as Christian faith as the Muslim faith… u go and bluid a church in a Muslim country n let’s see…what happens?
what he cant see is that the english didnt invade ireland…irelands own leaders sold out their own people by inviting the english to take northern ireland which they did giving the local populae a hard time after they took control.i never understand why people that dont like or want to be part of the uk under england live in the place.i wouldnt buy a house in downtown bangladesh to start moaning about the skinnys…you wouldnt buy a house next to the airport and moan about planes.why be anti uk and live in it when theres plenty of houses across the border.(which is a much nicer place to live ,laid back lifestyle anyway) its just as soon as anyone mentions northern ireland,then its only a matter of time before each side of the bigots starts flogging there respective dead cause.to be fair,the i.r.a.tactics and the vermin thats just done paris,do have similar gutless actions.
I’m largely with Snowman here, we know who most of them are so quiet extrajudicial removal of those among us and wholesale war on those ■■■■■■■ in Syria and Iraq is the only way forward.
As to whack-a-mole, throughout my life we’ve had various groups killing innocents using perversion of their beliefs as an excuse from Baader-Meinhof through the IRA, Al qaeda and now this shower of ■■■■■■■■ ISIL. We will always have these kinds of people in whatever guise they choose, you just have to stamp on each as they pop their head up.
