Wardaddy:
For any home grown Jihadis or those that took those citizenship courses, I say bring back hanging for high treason. My barbaric self really wants hanging drawing and quartering, with the spiking of heads in a prominent public place you understand.
Those thick religious preachers need a bit of the old burning at the stake for heresy while we’re at it. Sometimes the oldest methods are the best.
Well said,I’m sure kings of old wouldn’t take this kind of [zb],just imagine Henry the 8th stood there “excuse me sire there’s foreigners landed wanting to take over your country and make it their own?”.
Would get the pointy bit of a sword up em and sent packing back where they came from ■■■■ sharpish.
Harold Godwinson had this sticky problem of being invaded at both ends of the country at once… He came so close to defeating both Harald Sigurdson/Tostig and William the Conqueror but didn’t quite pull it off. The arrow in the eye that everyone knows about - was just fate taking the ■■■■ to finish him off with “yet more bad luck”.
That such a fate should befall Harold Godwinson after his army on a forced march had killed off 90% of Sigurdson & Tostig’s forces (including the pair of toerags themselves!) - denied all ethics of “fair play” in terms of going to his death in what amounted to a 50/50 Battle of Hastings that could easily have fallen on the other side of the probability fence - so close was it in the end.
We need some authority to actually ACT instead of talk in guarded tones - just as not to upset a bunch of factions that we really shouldn’t be giving a toss about at this time.
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.
Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!
+1
I recall a few years ago when this sort of bombing & killing happened here, the British Isles, on a regular basis, we didn’t nuke anyone then & I don’t see it happening here. Just as well as some on here really like Ireland & the Irish.
Save us the pro immigration apologist bs.The Irish troubles were/are all about a small localised misguided faction that didn’t want to accept the Anglo Irish treaty concerning the North South border.Who actually applied rules and restraint in what they did.Whereas Jihad is a totally different threat based on invasion and takeover by whatever means without rules.As we’ve seen in Israel,London,New York and Paris among other examples.
And on cue, the Irish apologist pokes out his turtles head. I don’t think your mates over the water would like being called a small localised misguided faction, but you know them better than me, I just had to help keep them in check, collect body parts, military & civilian, they didn’t really care which, you know what these animals are like. All based on another peaceful religion. The only real difference between these killers & those killers is that most of these are brown & your mates are white.
Says everything about why we’re in such a zb mess with a military that’s been indoctrinated to think there’s the slightest comparison between Jihad v the Irish Nationalist v UK struggle let alone the three way fight which followed between Nationalist pro treaty,Unionist and Nationalist anti treaty factions.While it seems obvious that a total inability to differentiate the former from the latter and the skin colour issue is more important to you than national security.All based on a bs comparison between apples and oranges.
comet:
I can’t understand ,with the best fighting force in the world,why these fanatics have not been taken out yet ?
because they are not easily discovered, and the lily livered human rights ect prevent our intel from using measures like water boarding to get info on other unidentified cowards that think there is a heaven and they will get there by killing innocent unarmed people and themselves, Also those who return to the uk after fighting with other isis , are allowed to keep their British passports and citizenships, why?
What should happen is following a proper interrogation they should be deported , or have a bullet between the eyes ( officially, was released and disappeared without trace )
Winseer:
Harold Godwinson had this sticky problem of being invaded at both ends of the country at once… He came so close to defeating both Harald Sigurdson/Tostig and William the Conqueror but didn’t quite pull it off. The arrow in the eye that everyone knows about - was just fate taking the ■■■■ to finish him off with “yet more bad luck”.
That such a fate should befall Harold Godwinson after his army on a forced march had killed off 90% of Sigurdson & Tostig’s forces (including the pair of toerags themselves!) - denied all ethics of “fair play” in terms of going to his death in what amounted to a 50/50 Battle of Hastings that could easily have fallen on the other side of the probability fence - so close was it in the end.
We need some authority to actually ACT instead of talk in guarded tones - just as not to upset a bunch of factions that we really shouldn’t be giving a toss about at this time.
Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex.He was defeated by successive generations of ‘English’ people.Who didn’t resist every stage of the process,in turning us into firstly the UK,then a small state of a Federal Europe with an open door immigration policy,in which people like Hamza and Emwazi are considered as ‘English’ as Harold was.
Ban islam as a practised religion. It is not even a religion, in essence it is a fascist cult. I would also deport imams…and if I had my way, I would deport all the liberal apologists too. How can we negotiate with people who want to destroy us? Not enough people realise that this insidious creep of islam, via mosques and procreation is as dangerous to us and our way of life as a drugged up muslim simpleton roaming the streets with a Kalashnikov.
Get out the EU, and wage war on these brain-washed morons.
The old saying, if you want peace, prepare for war is as true as ever. The hordes that are crossing Europe are an invasion, there is no other term for it. That people were clapping them into Germany is almost criminal.
Winseer:
Harold Godwinson had this sticky problem of being invaded at both ends of the country at once… He came so close to defeating both Harald Sigurdson/Tostig and William the Conqueror but didn’t quite pull it off. The arrow in the eye that everyone knows about - was just fate taking the ■■■■ to finish him off with “yet more bad luck”.
That such a fate should befall Harold Godwinson after his army on a forced march had killed off 90% of Sigurdson & Tostig’s forces (including the pair of toerags themselves!) - denied all ethics of “fair play” in terms of going to his death in what amounted to a 50/50 Battle of Hastings that could easily have fallen on the other side of the probability fence - so close was it in the end.
We need some authority to actually ACT instead of talk in guarded tones - just as not to upset a bunch of factions that we really shouldn’t be giving a toss about at this time.
Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex.He was defeated by successive generations of ‘English’ people.Who didn’t resist every stage of the process,in turning us into firstly the UK,then a small state of a Federal Europe with an open door immigration policy,in which people like Hamza and Emwazi are considered as ‘English’ as Harold was.
The thing about changing the people into anything at all - is that the people’s lack of resistance is FINE providing the change brings nothing but future prosperity punctuated by the occasional natural disaster.
If the changes you bring are nothing but misery for the masses - the changes clearly would NOT have been accepted if the truth had been told from the outset.
Thus, the continued pursuit of prosperity and aversion to any austerity - is key to winning the people over at all times.
Iceland got it right. The culprits needed to be treated more harshly than the public already were by the culprits. Bankers in Jail, Foreign debt defaulted, Austerity Lite, now in recovery. Job done.
UK? - Debt deferred yet again, Lies told to hide the fact, Bankers paid money borrowed from the public as bonuses, Public told you get a crap return on your savings, Public told you must pay massive amounts of interest to borrow money just to make ends meet, public who protest - get blocked by the entire police force, it’s illegal to perform any effective actions whatsoever to try and change this road to hell we’re all now on.
To get out of the rut - we need to repeal current legislation, and be brave enough to face the mid-term consequences of doing so.
Winseer:
Harold Godwinson had this sticky problem of being invaded at both ends of the country at once… He came so close to defeating both Harald Sigurdson/Tostig and William the Conqueror but didn’t quite pull it off. The arrow in the eye that everyone knows about - was just fate taking the ■■■■ to finish him off with “yet more bad luck”.
That such a fate should befall Harold Godwinson after his army on a forced march had killed off 90% of Sigurdson & Tostig’s forces (including the pair of toerags themselves!) - denied all ethics of “fair play” in terms of going to his death in what amounted to a 50/50 Battle of Hastings that could easily have fallen on the other side of the probability fence - so close was it in the end.
We need some authority to actually ACT instead of talk in guarded tones - just as not to upset a bunch of factions that we really shouldn’t be giving a toss about at this time.
Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex.He was defeated by successive generations of ‘English’ people.Who didn’t resist every stage of the process,in turning us into firstly the UK,then a small state of a Federal Europe with an open door immigration policy,in which people like Hamza and Emwazi are considered as ‘English’ as Harold was.
The thing about changing the people into anything at all - is that the people’s lack of resistance is FINE providing the change brings nothing but future prosperity punctuated by the occasional natural disaster.
If the changes you bring are nothing but misery for the masses - the changes clearly would NOT have been accepted if the truth had been told from the outset.
Thus, the continued pursuit of prosperity and aversion to any austerity - is key to winning the people over at all times.
That’s like saying it’s ok to give up sovereignty and national identity if the price is ( more like seems ) right. Bearing in mind that even that wasn’t the case in the English allowing centuries of French occupation/rule after the death of ‘the Conqueror’ which wiped out the nation.Eventually directly leading to where we are now.
Mentions of nuking in this thread. Who would you nuke? Scorched earth. Which earth would you reign terror upon? Pointless targeting solely Syria. It’s like hitting a bowl of water with a hammer, it just splashes everywhere. Warfare doesn’t work on widespread terrorism.
These people are here. It is, everywhere, they’re in Europe. They are amongst us. I don’t know what we’re going to do and neither does anyone else. We let them here years ago, way before anyone had heard of Isis. It is too late. Its like toothpaste, impossible to get back in the tube. We are in deep, deep trouble.
Winseer:
Harold Godwinson had this sticky problem of being invaded at both ends of the country at once… He came so close to defeating both Harald Sigurdson/Tostig and William the Conqueror but didn’t quite pull it off. The arrow in the eye that everyone knows about - was just fate taking the ■■■■ to finish him off with “yet more bad luck”.
That such a fate should befall Harold Godwinson after his army on a forced march had killed off 90% of Sigurdson & Tostig’s forces (including the pair of toerags themselves!) - denied all ethics of “fair play” in terms of going to his death in what amounted to a 50/50 Battle of Hastings that could easily have fallen on the other side of the probability fence - so close was it in the end.
We need some authority to actually ACT instead of talk in guarded tones - just as not to upset a bunch of factions that we really shouldn’t be giving a toss about at this time.
Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex.He was defeated by successive generations of ‘English’ people.Who didn’t resist every stage of the process,in turning us into firstly the UK,then a small state of a Federal Europe with an open door immigration policy,in which people like Hamza and Emwazi are considered as ‘English’ as Harold was.
The thing about changing the people into anything at all - is that the people’s lack of resistance is FINE providing the change brings nothing but future prosperity punctuated by the occasional natural disaster.
If the changes you bring are nothing but misery for the masses - the changes clearly would NOT have been accepted if the truth had been told from the outset.
Thus, the continued pursuit of prosperity and aversion to any austerity - is key to winning the people over at all times.
That’s like saying it’s ok to give up sovereignty and national identity if the price is ( more like seems ) right. Bearing in mind that even that wasn’t the case in the English allowing centuries of French occupation/rule after the death of ‘the Conqueror’ which wiped out the nation.Eventually directly leading to where we are now.
That’s exactly what I’m saying.
We would hardly object to even China taking us over outright IF the prosperity promised were both realistic and sustainable. The superpower nation of the future will win over other nations to cede to it by treating them so well that we’ll happily learn Manderin - if it meant, for example, tripled incomes, halved costs of living, and all mod cons. The Chinese have made their own version of Communism that is to be admired rather than banged on about it’s shortcomings.
“Democracy is the worst type of government - apart from all the others already tried.”
W.Churchill.
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Not a lot different from the 25 then
raymundo:
quote by our residential know all … ‘Ironically Harold and the English nation wasn’t defeated in Sussex’
You sure about that? but I bet an arrow in the eye didn’t help him much cos allegedly it killed him
Blairites would argue that “since a doctor failed to pronounce him dead, and no picture was taken - it didn’t happen at all”.
I don’t think there was a county of sussex in 1066 anyways.
It’s easy to make a Canute of yourself with these historical arguments regarding events a thousand years ago.
Winseer:
That’s exactly what I’m saying.
We would hardly object to even China taking us over outright IF the prosperity promised were both realistic and sustainable. The superpower nation of the future will win over other nations to cede to it by treating them so well that we’ll happily learn Manderin - if it meant, for example, tripled incomes, halved costs of living, and all mod cons. The Chinese have made their own version of Communism that is to be admired rather than banged on about it’s shortcomings.
“Democracy is the worst type of government - apart from all the others already tried.”
W.Churchill.
I wouldn’t want China taking us over. Its like 1984. We think we are watched here. Blimey. You can’t hardly look at anything on the Internet there, even with VPN. Regular people live hand to mouth and are paid peanuts and live on peanuts. The education system is extremly corrupt. Folk do disappear very frequently for saying incorrect things. I didn’t see much to admire there for normal people other than if you were looking through the eyes of a big business man.
Communism doesn’t work because of one thing. Human greed. It just ends up being capitalism for those at the top with the poor underneath playing the game.
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.
Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
Carryfast:
That’s like saying it’s ok to give up sovereignty and national identity if the price is ( more like seems ) right. Bearing in mind that even that wasn’t the case in the English allowing centuries of French occupation/rule after the death of ‘the Conqueror’ which wiped out the nation.Eventually directly leading to where we are now.
That’s exactly what I’m saying.
We would hardly object to even China taking us over outright IF the prosperity promised were both realistic and sustainable. The superpower nation of the future will win over other nations to cede to it by treating them so well that we’ll happily learn Manderin - if it meant, for example, tripled incomes, halved costs of living, and all mod cons. The Chinese have made their own version of Communism that is to be admired rather than banged on about it’s shortcomings.
More like China is as much of a threat to us as Islam.On that note be careful what you wish for.
lets now assume that there will be a mass influx of illegals demanding asylum in the uk as they will now be under a islamic threat in france…stranger things happen once one of them thinks of that.
Terry T:
Worst thing we ever did is get rid of Saddam and Gadaffi. These people only understand guns, torture and violence. Good old Saddam and Gadaffi kept these scumbags in check. Sure, they were tyrannical despots but their word was final.
Lessons should be learned from this. Remove one nutter sect and an even worse nutter sect will take over. At least Saddam and Gadaffi were, to a certain degree, controllable. IS just make it up as they go along. No negotiating with them.
I agree ,., bring back Tony Blair
No way. He started it all by getting rid of Saddam. Him and that moron Bush. ■■■■ the middle east. What we need is a Kim Jong Un in every non western country keeping these [ZB] in check. We should be funding Saddams and Jong-Uns not spending billions getting rid of them so someone worse can take over.
Bearing in mind that even that wasn’t the case in the English allowing centuries of French occupation/rule after the death of ‘the Conqueror’ which wiped out the nation.Eventually directly leading to where we are now.
