I did the lot 3 weeks ago and found 2 modules useful the tacho one and the safe loading/unloading one. THe latter because it had lots of videos of steel coming off lorries etc. THe rest of the course was a total waste of time even the instructor was falling asleep on his feet! 
I think your correct Robinhood, a point ive raised before is what use is it to a chap who is due for retirement in the next year or two ? pointless ! and as i said just forceing money out of people who know there job inside out…all the critisism this has had should be put forward…but it wont…dcpc = money end of.
Hi Peter do you do ADR courses ?
Sorry, no, not at present. Pete 
Some interesting posts.I agree about it being mainly a money making scheme but I can also see a great necessity for a course that is more relevant to improving drivers in every respect.There are some that just do not have a clue unfortunately.
I completed mine about 6 months ago and even after driving for many years and being involved in many types of transport training still gained a few valuable points.
There is definitely room for a driving assessment as this could hopefully rectify some of the bad habits of drivers that have been driving for years without any further training.
What I did find when I did my course it was the ones that were moaning they did not require were the ones that could very rarely give a correct answer.
Definitely a good thing if it was implemented properly.
Would I be right in saying that most companies do driving assessments on a new driver be they agency or perm ?
limeyphil:
What can anyone gain from one of these courses?
Sod all.
They try to teach people everything they should already know.
I was offered it for free last year, I left the firm as i felt insulted. I was the only driver that had never had an accident.
Given the absolute rubbish you’ve posted as fact on this forum you’re one of the most in need of doing it here.
ROG:
Would I be right in saying that most companies do driving assessments on a new driver be they agency or perm ?
You may well be right but just because they carry out an assessment does not really mean much in a lot of cases.
How many companies just use one of their drivers who probably is only judging on what he thinks is correct and in a lot of cases is not.
Drivers need to be assessed properly by someone who is qualified.
Remember going for an assessment once and after sticking to the speed limits was told I would never get the job done.
How is that for professionalism?
albion1971:
Drivers need to be assessed properly by someone who is qualified.
I will take issue with that as I reckon most companies put their trust in a driver who will only accept a safe driver on behalf of the company - if they let unsafe ones through then they would not last long as the driver assessor
ROG:
albion1971:
Drivers need to be assessed properly by someone who is qualified.I will take issue with that as I reckon most companies put their trust in a driver who will only accept a safe driver on behalf of the company - if they let unsafe ones through then they would not last long as the driver assessor
Correct maybe some companies do put their trust in a particular driver maybe because he has been with them for years without having an accident.It does not necessarily mean he or she is capable of assessing another driver.
I have come across many like that during my training days and I can assure you not very many are suitable to assess another driver.
Some drivers perception of what is safe is only correct in their own minds but can be different in reality.
Conor:
limeyphil:
What can anyone gain from one of these courses?
Sod all.
They try to teach people everything they should already know.
I was offered it for free last year, I left the firm as i felt insulted. I was the only driver that had never had an accident.Given the absolute rubbish you’ve posted as fact on this forum you’re one of the most in need of doing it here.
Every time you try to slate me, I ask for evidence from you.
You never come up with the goods. You simply come across as a fool and a troll.
I’ve had about 4 driver assessments at different companies over the past few years and they were all carried out by qualified driver assessors.
tachograph:
I’ve had about 4 driver assessments at different companies over the past few years and they were all carried out by qualified driver assessors.
Qualified by who?
ROG:
tachograph:
I’ve had about 4 driver assessments at different companies over the past few years and they were all carried out by qualified driver assessors.Qualified by who?
I can’t remember the name of the course or qualification to be honest, but there is training that assessors can go through, and I was told by one that he has to go for refresher courses but I can’t remember how often.
Not much help I know, but it’s not something that I’ve ever had any reason to go into in any great depth.
tachograph:
I’ve had about 4 driver assessments at different companies over the past few years and they were all carried out by qualified driver assessors.
As they should be.
trubster:
206doorman:
trubster:
Pete, I can assure you that I will learn nothing from any course… I am a relatively new driver so am up to date with all regs etc, I am not 90 years old and [zb] scared of using digi cards.
This is not an attack on your CPC course, it is the whole DCPC in general…Here’s a man who knows everything.
Don’t meet many like this…well,except for the one colleague I have!I never claimed to know everything, I said I would learn nothing from a CPC course…
There is nothing more annoying than being asked to demonstrate a manual entry on a simulated machine, doing it fine and sitting in a [zb] room for 4 hours because 3 or 4 people have been driving for the last 4 years by just putting cards in and constantly pressing Ok
The course should have a test at the beginning and you shouldn’t have to go over what you know
People like you cause accidents.
I did three days of CPC training within a week of getting my Class 1, I did my Mod 2 and Mod 4 about two weeks before and still learned stuff.
If you didn’t learn on your CPC training, you picked the wrong trainer.
No one should learn anything on a Dcpc course.
To call yourself a professional, You should either know all the stuff they try to teach you, Or if you don’t have the memory capacity, You should carry books that you can refer to.
tachograph:
ROG:
tachograph:
I’ve had about 4 driver assessments at different companies over the past few years and they were all carried out by qualified driver assessors.Qualified by who?
I can’t remember the name of the course or qualification to be honest, but there is training that assessors can go through, and I was told by one that he has to go for refresher courses but I can’t remember how often.
Not much help I know, but it’s not something that I’ve ever had any reason to go into in any great depth.
One of the main assessors recognised qualification is carried out by NVQ.It is one of a few qualifications I have gone through over the years and you are correct when you say a person is re checked every so often.I believe there have been recent changes to NVQ.
Assessing is like anything else unless you have been trained properly it is highly unlikely you will be doing it correctly.
The general recognised LGV Assessor qualification is from RTITB. It is accepted as a watered down version of DSA LGV Instructor - though they are different skills.
Pete
Peter Smythe:
The general recognised LGV Assessor qualification is from RTITB. It is accepted as a watered down version of DSA LGV Instructor - though they are different skills.Pete
How do you rate the advanced observers/tutors as assessors Pete?
No experience so cant comment. Pete