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On the face of it looks good
Class One Tramping Work Based out of Nantwich, Chesire.
Monday the 15th of June Start Date
Driving Assessments held on the 12th of June.
Maxing out fortnightly driving hours.
Nights out Paid
Breaks Paid
PAYE Drivers Only.
Between £2,200 - 2,500 Monthly Take Home Pay
If interested please call

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blue estate:
On the face of it looks good
Class One Tramping Work Based out of Nantwich, Chesire.
Monday the 15th of June Start Date
Driving Assessments held on the 12th of June.
Maxing out fortnightly driving hours.
Nights out Paid
Breaks Paid
PAYE Drivers Only.
Between £2,200 - 2,500 Monthly Take Home Pay
If interested please call

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I’m always wary of firms who pay breaks right through.
You get one of two scenarios.
They expect you to work right through them.
You get thick and stupid drivers who gladly work right through, justifying it by saying… ‘‘Well they pay us right through anyway, so what’s the difference’’. :open_mouth: :unamused:
Also maxing out as a compulsory routine would put me off, who tf in their right mind wants to do all that crap anymore. :unamused:
Thanks but no thanks for me, before I even look at the rate, it’s got ‘Ran ragged endurance test’’ written all over it.

robroy:

blue estate:
On the face of it looks good
Class One Tramping Work Based out of Nantwich, Chesire.
Monday the 15th of June Start Date
Driving Assessments held on the 12th of June.
Maxing out fortnightly driving hours.
Nights out Paid
Breaks Paid
PAYE Drivers Only.
Between £2,200 - 2,500 Monthly Take Home Pay
If interested please call

Sent while in furlough but not for long

I’m always wary of firms who pay breaks right through.
You get one of two scenarios.
They expect you to work right through them.
You get thick and stupid drivers who gladly work right through, justifying it by saying… ‘‘Well they pay us right through anyway, so what’s the difference’’. :open_mouth: :unamused:
Also maxing out as a compulsory routine would put me off, who tf in their right mind wants to do all that crap anymore. :unamused:
Thanks but no thanks for me, before I even look at the rate, it’s got ‘Ran ragged endurance test’’ written all over it.

£10.50 umbrella only

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Can’t be arsed to work it out but 3x15 & 2x13 every week with probably a 6th shift thrown in every other week whilst nighting out and you take home 2.2k it sounds to me like less than minimum wage. Take off the night out money and your looking at 1.8k take him which is terrible.
Leave it to Mr Philipe Flop.

blue estate:

robroy:

blue estate:
On the face of it looks good
Class One Tramping Work Based out of Nantwich, Chesire.
Monday the 15th of June Start Date
Driving Assessments held on the 12th of June.
Maxing out fortnightly driving hours.
Nights out Paid
Breaks Paid
PAYE Drivers Only.
Between £2,200 - 2,500 Monthly Take Home Pay
If interested please call

Sent while in furlough but not for long

I’m always wary of firms who pay breaks right through.
You get one of two scenarios.
They expect you to work right through them.
You get thick and stupid drivers who gladly work right through, justifying it by saying… ‘‘Well they pay us right through anyway, so what’s the difference’’. :open_mouth: :unamused:
Also maxing out as a compulsory routine would put me off, who tf in their right mind wants to do all that crap anymore. :unamused:
Thanks but no thanks for me, before I even look at the rate, it’s got ‘Ran ragged endurance test’’ written all over it.

£10.50 umbrella only

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How can it be PAYE and brolly only :unamused:

Look at it like this, if you did a 40 hour week for them you’d get £275 net.

£2500 a month for no life is ■■■■.

blue estate:
£10.50 umbrella only

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So holiday is included in those £10.50?

mike68:
Look at it like this, if you did a 40 hour week for them you’d get £275 net.

£2500 a month for no life is [zb].

Yep, this is the old… ‘‘I’m on good money me’’ mantra boasted by the terminally stupid. :unamused:
They are looking at their take home and top lines and ignoring the number of hours they need to do to achieve it.

Delphic ! Yee-Ha

on the face of it,then it looks dire.once you work it out then its even worse.

il quite happily work as bent as a banana if it suits me and if the money works out,but thats a mince job.

blue estate:
On the face of it looks good
Class One Tramping Work Based out of Nantwich, Chesire.
Monday the 15th of June Start Date
Driving Assessments held on the 12th of June.
Maxing out fortnightly driving hours.
Nights out Paid
Breaks Paid
PAYE Drivers Only.
Between £2,200 - 2,500 Monthly Take Home Pay
If interested please call

Sent while in furlough but not for long

Max hours works out below minimum wage you would have to be really hard up to work for all in max hours for 2,200 to 2, 500 a month

One would also need to ascertain what is meant by “take home pay”. I always thought take home pay was the amount you actually took home in your pocket, i.e. nett. Or are they meaning gross pay?

£2500 which may or may not include night out money for doing a 70-80hr week?

Let’s be generous and assume it doesn’t include night out money so it’s equivalent to a £38750 a year salary.
You’ll be likely doing 150hrs a fortnight or 3900hrs a year.

It’s going to be around £10/hr. Stuff that for no life.

If it includes night out money you’re working for minimum wage.

Soon as you see a take home figure quoted in an ad you know it’s some half arsed pay scheme designed around 11 days worth of work for 6 days wages.
3 guesses if night out pay is included in the figure quoted.

I think we need to get back to the old way of stating pay.

Salaries are paid whatever happens, including if you are off sick, if the pay doesn’t include sick pay it aint a salary, salaries are based on a set number of hours in a week or month, go over those hours and the hours are either credited to be taken as time off or paid at a high advanced rate.

Wages are paid for the time you are at work ie hourly pay, or you might be on a piece work type scheme where bonuses for productivity are on top of either a day rate or on top of hourly pay, hours over the norm may or may not be paid at an enhanced rate these days.
Wages are not paid consistently, and in most cases not paid during bouts of sickness, though some unionised outfits might well have a sick pay scheme in operation.

Decent contributions from the company towards your pension can feature in either, but generally salaries carry the best terms here.

Night out pay, or subsistence is not and never has been part of either a wage or salary, but some get confused here and think of and include that tax free pay as if its their wage, this confuses things when you are trying to compare one job with another.
Be aware, some pay schemes i’ve been on (transporter work was typical for this) you got a bonus for working so many hours or covering so many miles and getting back to base, but this bonus ceases if you are on a physical night out, in effect this can mean only a £5/7 difference for being stuck out instead of getting back, though of course the NO pay would be tax free but the slightly lower bonus from getting back would be taxed…keep your wits about you at interview time, some of these pays schemes are seriously complicated and you only discover the pitfalls when you’ve been there a few weeks.

The only way to compare one job to another is to divide the top wage/salary line by the number of actual hours worked to earn it, you can factor in compulsory weekend or bank holiday working or if the shift pattern involved means plus or minus the standard 5 days week most work, at the end you have a mean average hourly rate, this can be quite an eye opener when you see the figure in print.
Unfortunately the real hours involved are rarely stated in adverts or at interview time, when the person interviewing is selling the job to you and the things they arn’t telling you are typically the most pertinet points.

Juddian:
The only way to compare one job to another is to divide the top wage/salary line by the number of actual hours worked to earn it

Workload/type is as if not more important as hourly rate.
In general the question how many drops/collections required in a shift and where is far more important than how much per hour for example.

Carryfast:

Juddian:
The only way to compare one job to another is to divide the top wage/salary line by the number of actual hours worked to earn it

Workload/type is as if not more important as hourly rate.
In general the question how many drops/collections required in a shift and where is far more important than how much per hour for example.

Fair comment that, but i used make loads of wonga out of bods who couldn’t cope with mutli drops, when i say multi drop i mean from 3 to 7 drops, usually city locations.

Arrive at work to find some bod nearly in tears, ‘‘wassup mate’’, ‘boohoo i’ve got 3 drops London winge moan’, cue me in benevolent tone ‘‘do you want to swap your London for a straight hit elsewhere’’, ‘cor would you, thanks mate’…there you go mate a nice little 8 hour day for you and i’ll just write 15 on me clock card for a breeze of a job toddling round me favourite London drops via the scenic routes back in the day when the ladies used to dress well :wink:

Every job is different just as every driver is too, each to their own.

Juddian:
Soon as you see a take home figure quoted in an ad you know it’s some half arsed pay scheme designed around 11 days worth of work for 6 days wages.
3 guesses if night out pay is included in the figure quoted.

I think we need to get back to the old way of stating pay.

Salaries are paid whatever happens, including if you are off sick, if the pay doesn’t include sick pay it aint a salary, salaries are based on a set number of hours in a week or month, go over those hours and the hours are either credited to be taken as time off or paid at a high advanced rate.

Wages are paid for the time you are at work ie hourly pay, or you might be on a piece work type scheme where bonuses for productivity are on top of either a day rate or on top of hourly pay, hours over the norm may or may not be paid at an enhanced rate these days.
Wages are not paid consistently, and in most cases not paid during bouts of sickness, though some unionised outfits might well have a sick pay scheme in operation.

Decent contributions from the company towards your pension can feature in either, but generally salaries carry the best terms here.

Night out pay, or subsistence is not and never has been part of either a wage or salary, but some get confused here and think of and include that tax free pay as if its their wage, this confuses things when you are trying to compare one job with another.
Be aware, some pay schemes i’ve been on (transporter work was typical for this) you got a bonus for working so many hours or covering so many miles and getting back to base, but this bonus ceases if you are on a physical night out, in effect this can mean only a £5/7 difference for being stuck out instead of getting back, though of course the NO pay would be tax free but the slightly lower bonus from getting back would be taxed…keep your wits about you at interview time, some of these pays schemes are seriously complicated and you only discover the pitfalls when you’ve been there a few weeks.

The only way to compare one job to another is to divide the top wage/salary line by the number of actual hours worked to earn it, you can factor in compulsory weekend or bank holiday working or if the shift pattern involved means plus or minus the standard 5 days week most work, at the end you have a mean average hourly rate, this can be quite an eye opener when you see the figure in print.
Unfortunately the real hours involved are rarely stated in adverts or at interview time, when the person interviewing is selling the job to you and the things they arn’t telling you are typically the most pertinet points.

^^^^ This.
Spot on.

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i find it laughable , the vast majority of drivers are 50 / 60 so w t f are you bothered about
Money , as I’ve said before , wages should be pocket money , surely mortgages are finished , kids left home , no debts etc etc when your in your 50 / 60 ,s , what have all these 50 + drivers been doing to still be bothered about money
Mind i worked with a bloke who didn’t talk for a week because years ago I got asked to do a run on a Saturday & he didn’t , he was in his 60 ,s
Just remember all you money obsessed people , you can’t take it with you !!!

I find it incredible that people into their fifties still live to their wages each week. These are the ones who are always spouting off how good wages they are on, well if the wages were as good as they make out then they shouldn’t need to be working the hours that they need to. It’s very sad to see someone needing to do long shifts in order to live. If you have sat in a lorry all of you’re life then it has all been for nothing. I won’t work off shore or travel nowadays because I made sure I was comfortable from a younger age. I was mortgage free from 40 and two new cars and a motorbike paid for. My wages are purely for fun and holidays, not for living off, terrible when you see the sorry states some have gotten themselves in all because they were not sensible from a younger age.

The two above statements are two of the daftest I’ve seen in a while on this forum about people in there 50s should not need to chase the money . Life happens marriages end some had families later in life and not all of us live in places like hull or Grantham (or where ever Dozy claims his steak waiting every Friday) where houses can be exchanged for not much more than the cost a bag of chips.