bullitt:
There is nothing wrong with people seeking shelter and asylum here at my expense then proceeding to slag us off!!
You poor soul. Ignorant and arrogant as well. Shelter and asylum? Me? Living at YOUR expense? Me? Now really, this tops it all. And worse, you are a firefighter as well, aren’t you? I really wouldn’t like to be in distress, knowing that you would come along to rescue me or any other foreign soul for that matter.
To put your poor british sould at rest my friend. I never came to England to seek asylum or shelter and I NEVER did live at YOUR expense or anybody else’s. Now go to church and pray to your god who gives you the right to condamn and judge. I am sure that one day u will get what u deserve.
I came back from Denmark to work in the UK and still had my DK LHD car, coming up to a roundabout a truck driver on the inside lane taking on his mobile phone. As he went around the roundabout he drifted into my lane, I could see him looking at me in his mirror. I ended up parked on the roundabout, he was looking at me still, no emotion on his face. I passed him on a dual carriageway 2Km further on, it was warm, so my window was down, I had aready decided not to make a big deal out of it, as since I came back it seems normal for UK people not to care about anything anymore. As I passed he was screaming at me to get out of his country, in more fruity words I should say. I have been back here 8 months and it seems normal that people do this to people from other countries.
Whats to say in a few years time that the only jobs you can get might be in Poland, the UK appears to be going nowhere fast, I would be nice to the Poles now, you might meet them again on your way down
If you find yourself asking for directions in Spain these days you will find you are asking a pole or a latvian rather than a Spanish driver.Drove through la jonquera last wednesday(bank hol in Spain)did not see one spanish truck parked up an the place was full,trucks parking up on the road and anyone who knows la jonquera knows how much parking there is there.
A few yrs ago i was coming up the ap14 ancona, in alayby was a turk with a punture his jack broke,i stopped and helped, finished we headed for a coffee.Well 2mths later on the a1 i have one so i changing it ,i hear brakes then there is a turk next to me he helps me, when we fin iasked him why did he stop, he told me he had my number as i helped his mate.You tell me how many drivers stop know ,even to help there own work mates i would quess not many.
My first experience driving abroad was for a removal company in Derby.
As many of you are aware, Brits were and still buying up property in France, the old barn which the customers had brought was in the middle of the sticks and I could not find it for the life of me. So I had to stop and ask for directions. The couple took me to their home and rang their friends who live in the same area where I was delivering to, and they met me on the outskirts and took me to the old barn. I mean that was a great joy and a great experience for my first trip (I was only 20 at that time)
Another experience I have had was when I was on agency and I had a few days at Wille B, taking their left hookers up the docks to be shipped over to their dept. While driving up there I had a few Stobarts drivers giving me the finger while over taking them and I thought truck drivers were professional drivers.
I am English not British and very proud of my nationality for those who are interested, and have been in this profession for a very long time.i have been helped by many nationalities, and have been helpful to many nationalities. In this profession we are here to help and to be helped…so please dont tar everyone with the same brush …there are a lot of good drivers around…but unfortunately there are some bad ones, as there are in many nationalities, and its these that give us the bad name we so often wish we didnt have.
We are experiencing a a great influx of foreigners, far greater than this country has ever experienced, but to some extent i welcome them, they only want a better standard of living from the country they have come here from, they live a different life to the one we live, often many to one room…they dont frequent the pubs like we do, or enjoy the hearty breakfast we so often have in the cafes along the byways, they are quite often paid a lot less than we are, they dont mix freely because the english wont let them. we have 8 polish drivers on our company now, and because i talk to them, they will always greet me in the mornings with a friendly handshake, sometimes offering me some of their measly packaged lunch, which i decline, and often invite me to their homes at weekends for a friendly drink and a chat, the difference with these drivers is they speak excellent english, and are on the same wages as i am, after all they are doing the same job, and are in fact better dressed than some of their english counterparts. What i do object to are the companies who pay a far lower rate of pay than their english counterparts, and treat them a lot differently, as if they are from another planet. They do not enjoy this country, or its hospitality, but merely want to earn a decent wage with which to send home to their families, thereby allowing them to buy their dream home in their own country to which one day they will return. They are hard workers, rarely moan, and just get on with it, and not forgetting that for some on their measly wage, are in fact keeping 2 homes going, how many brits could do that ?
truckyboy:
I am English not British and very proud of my nationality for those who are interested, and have been in this profession for a very long time.i have been helped by many nationalities, and have been helpful to many nationalities. In this profession we are here to help and to be helped…so please dont tar everyone with the same brush …there are a lot of good drivers around…but unfortunately there are some bad ones, as there are in many nationalities, and its these that give us the bad name we so often wish we didnt have.
We are experiencing a a great influx of foreigners, far greater than this country has ever experienced, but to some extent i welcome them, they only want a better standard of living from the country they have come here from, they live a different life to the one we live, often many to one room…they dont frequent the pubs like we do, or enjoy the hearty breakfast we so often have in the cafes along the byways, they are quite often paid a lot less than we are, they dont mix freely because the english wont let them. we have 8 polish drivers on our company now, and because i talk to them, they will always greet me in the mornings with a friendly handshake, sometimes offering me some of their measly packaged lunch, which i decline, and often invite me to their homes at weekends for a friendly drink and a chat, the difference with these drivers is they speak excellent english, and are on the same wages as i am, after all they are doing the same job, and are in fact better dressed than some of their english counterparts. What i do object to are the companies who pay a far lower rate of pay than their english counterparts, and treat them a lot differently, as if they are from another planet. They do not enjoy this country, or its hospitality, but merely want to earn a decent wage with which to send home to their families, thereby allowing them to buy their dream home in their own country to which one day they will return. They are hard workers, rarely moan, and just get on with it, and not forgetting that for some on their measly wage, are in fact keeping 2 homes going, how many brits could do that ?
I make no apology for quoting the whole of your post Truckyboy, because I wholeheartedly agree with everything you’ve said (with reservations on my part about being English ) and I’m quite disgusted with the attitudes displayed in some of the posts in this thread.
I haven’t posted before on this, because everyone is entitled to their opinion and is free to voice it and I don’t want to quash free speech by appearing overbearing (not that I think it would have made much difference anyway). It isn’t my role, as a moderator, to censor offensive (to me and others) opinion, only to ensure that the sites rules are complied with. So far they have been, though one or two posts are getting close to the mark.
Please bear this in mind in future posts on this topic.
I’m a so called “foreigner” (although I llook a bit differant, I’m as British as Rob and his pal). I’m glad that most my work is on the the Continent and not in the UK. Unfortunately, I do get the cold shoulder treatment a lot in the Uk and Ireland. BUT - in these recent times of a mass influx of immigrants and terrorism etc, etc I think a lot of British people are rebelling a bit against foreigners. Unfortunately this is translated into Rasicm too frequently. Being British stands for Integrity. Honesty. Generousity. Helping others in thier hour of need. It always has done and always will do. This unique identity is being attacked at the moment and a lot of British people feel threatened and invaded. To some extent I can’t blame people for this but for someone whose parents came here from India many many years ago I am starting to feel a tirade of hatred against me and people like me and I don’t like it at all.
As far as the original post is concerned, I’ve come across many people like Rob’s mate and all I can say is I’m glad he’s your mate and not mine.
Rob K you are an absolute disgrace and its people like you who reinforce the bad stereotype of truck drivers in this country.
People are entitled to a view on immigration but this is something you have to judge the government and their policies on, after all its the government that we as a country VOTED in.
The fact is the fellow like the polish man you spoke of are employed and contributing, I agree that the influx has had a detrimental impact on wage levels, but this is not the fault of the polish man simply trying to make an HONEST LIVING and taking an opportunity which is their for him, which incidentally must take a great deal of character to uproot and move to a new country.
Im dismayed by this site at times, opinions on here are getting racist and bigotted all too often. Immigration controls are appalling i agree but aim your disgust at the incompetent government, not against people who believe it or not are just making an honest living like the rest of us.
Rob K:
Got talking about it with a mate of mine last night - he’d been working at a place and was instructed to load somewhere. There was also a Polish agency lad in who was loading at the same place so the office told him to follow my mate. Thing was, my mate didn’t wait for him and [zb] off on his own with the argument that it was tough [zb] as they should know their way about and be able to find places for themselves, adding that it was these [zb] that are nicking all our jobs so why should he help them and if they ever come up to him asking for directions he sends them in the opposite direction.
Hands up, who’s guilty and feels the same?
Alex there’s no need for you to answer that one cos I already know.
Ringo, Did you read this bit? It wasnt rob… Its also been mentioned he helped a pole out by taking him to his drop in leeds somewhere.
I agree with most of your post about not blaming the workers blame the bosses by the way, but dont shoot the bloke for making a comment on someone elses opinions eh.
Scaniaman as jb has just told you, read the post again It wasn’t Rob it was his mate, so how has Rob shot himself in the foot That goes for you too Ringo
I think when you put in the subject ‘foreigners nicking our jobs’ and then end the thread with ‘hands up whose guilty and feels the same’ gives an implication that he is mirroring the view.
Rumour has it that because of all the Polish drivers coming over here, looking for decent paying jobs, there is now a shortage of drivers in Poland. As a result, drivers wages in Poland have gone up, so they are all going home again.
Please note the highlighted words at the beginning.
This is just some drivers tale that I heard this week. How much truth there is in it I do not know.
Thats true Simon, last time I was there a couple of weeks ago they was a lot of talk about the drain on the local workforce and ways to try and get them back. Indeed some local govenments have taken adverts in English papers trying to get some Poles to return.
Most of the shortfall in workforce in Poland is in the construction industry, roads building and non domestic building, factories and the like. It would follow that more things need moving and that drivers also might be in short supply. Truck drivers in Poland are well thought of, not as it is here and also well paid compered to other jobs in Poland, so they weren’t the ones who left to find better work aboard for the most part.
Most of the drivers that arrived from Poland were new licence holders, thats well known in Poland, lots of adds when they joined the EU take a test and find work aboard, that knda stuff.
Anyway yes Simon there are problems in Poland, but I have no idea what Poland will do with the new EU members who are only across the border when they join.
) and I’m quite disgusted with the attitudes displayed in some of the posts in this thread.
It wasn’t Rob it was his mate, so how has Rob shot himself in the foot 
